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OK. Glad to see a thread here for this case, because it is an amazing case. Not only did the mom and those precious children survive, the father did as well! Now hear me out. How often do we see stories (like Utah) where they are all dead and we have to wonder what was going through their minds? When they do survive it's because they are trying to get away with it (Waitts) or they pretended to be a victim. But how often are we fortunate enough to not only have all of the victims survive, but also the maniac who did it? Handled properly, this could be an excellent text book case to study. I hope they can find a way to pick through his crazy brain and try to gleen any sort of insight into how we might be able to prevent these things from happening. See the signs better, etc... My heart goes out to the mom and children and pray they make full and speedy recoveries and are able to find peace in their lives.
If there was willful intention to drive the vehicle off the cliff, wouldn't the driver be charged with attempted murder?
I believe he has been charged.If there was willful intention to drive the vehicle off the cliff, wouldn't the driver be charged with attempted murder?
Annihilators often do kill themselves, but not always. If you look at the case in Utah a few days ago, or the case in Broken Arrow last year, the annihilator killed all in the home including himself. This is not uncommon.I agree with you completely on this. I was trying to consider anything that I could recall where both the victims and the perp survived when it is this kind of family annihilation....I'm not even sure if that is the correct term if it also involved suicide....but I can't think of any case like this. It is definitely a blessing for his wife and children to have survived this. I sure hope they have a good support system and lots of love right now. I can't imagine the heart ache this poor mother is experiencing to have to realize her husband didn't consider what was best for her or her kids but instead selfishly was going to decide for them.....it is really tragic when these kind of crimes occur.
Nevertheless....I also am very interested in finding out his motive and the logic of his decision-making when taking everyone with him. I hope he will talk.....will be useless if he denies and evades.
I had read an article about Tesla not long ago where they discussed crash tests and the Teslas ability to withstand impact etc. Amazingly the battery everyone complains about helped save this family.
That and of course first responders who risk their own safety to rescue the family.
I swear this family was anointed or protected by supernatural forces. Bless them.
RSBMI don't think the driver thought the vehicle would land on the side of the cliff but instead go way out into the water.
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The father is Homer Simpson falling down the cliffRSBM
People watch too many movies and think cars fly off a cliff like an Evel Kinevel stuntbike off a hundred yard ramp. Actually, things pretty much go straight down, bumping against every little outcrop they pass.
Gravity's a female dog. We're all subject to her relentless forces. Without a nice big ramp and a nitrous booster, that Tesla was never going to fly far. I'm just glad it was apparently built like a tank. With how inescapably horrible it is on the other thread created about a family annihilator this week, at least I can come here, breathe deep, and remember, that despite the best efforts of the person they've arrested, at least in this instance, everybody lives.The father is Homer Simpson falling down the cliff
I thought I had read everything posted on this thread but I didn't see anything related to run in's with the police aside from calls in 2017 related to concerns of possible people lurking or casing the house for a break in. Aside from that I didn't see anything related to him having run in's. Can you direct me to that article?
Right? I was thinking the same thing…Wow. One wonders what kind of conversations they must have been having, if this wasn't something they had done before.
Is it spur of the moment though, if you pass by, then do a u-turn to return to the cliff area? That seems like a legal definition of premeditation. IMOIt might not be pre-meditated
Maybe they were arguing and he snapped during the argument, spur of the moment thing
Although it would be convenient there was an opportunity to drive off the cliff at that time
If there was willful intention to drive the vehicle off the cliff, wouldn't the driver be charged with attempted murder?