Here is a story that could help us understand the possibility that people can pull this off. It coincides with my post that you have commented on. With all due respect Newstalk is not an authorized source with LE. Coroners can rule someone dead and if you read this article, they clearly can be mistaken.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/the-1m-panama-rat-526370#.U-T259q9KSM
This is his story of faking his death...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...es-easy-fake-death-life-insurance-payout.html
Seriously? You're trying to compare a guy who pretended to get lost at sea with a house and farm full of physical forensic evidence, enough to allow LE to determine the victims are dead? Sorry, that doesn't cut it. IMO, at least.
For one thing, all they went by in the canoe man's case (I remember that from 2011) were the remains of the canoe, his continued absence, and his wife's claim that he was missing. There wasn't any forensic evidence to go by like there is here.
Secondly, canoe man noted that he was able to fool his sons into thinking him dead because "They had moved away, they were adults. We had lost contact, they were writing infrequently and making contact infrequently. ... They had their own lives to lead. You put in your own mind that they don't care." From what we know, that also doesn't apply in this case. AL and KL were at least close to RO, JO and the kids, and I believe most of the extended family kept in regular contact.
Besides which, by suggesting that this is in any way similar to canoe man's case, you're implying that AL and KL were willing to cause their family extreme grief by faking their deaths and faking them in such a spectacularly detailed and comprehensive way as to cause LE to believe supposedly faked forensic evidence. :banghead: Okay, maybe their financial dealings were a little eyebrow-raising but they don't appear to have been
cruel people, and they'd have to be to put their loved ones through this.
Unless you think that the rest of the family might be aware of the deception ... in which case you'd also be accusing the family members of perpetrating fraud on the police, the courts and the public.
On another of your points: No, newstalk isn't LE but he's logical, practical, and has experience reporting on other crimes. There are a few others here who have valuable and helpful practical experience: ex-reporters, researchers, etc., but most of us are just interested observers who have no such experience from which to draw. But we can at least try to be logical about things.
While I completely dismiss the manner of canoe man's faked death as being in any way applicable to this case, there were a couple of things that did catch my attention.
From your first link:
"Officers have begun probing a tangled web of finances involving mortgage and endowment policies, pension funds and property deals." Now
that sounds familiar.
Also, mention of Panama.
And this: "He spent five years living in Panama under the identity stolen from dead baby John Jones." Like Garland's pretending to be Matthew Hartley.
Having said all that, I too believe there's more to this case than we know.
