Cherchri, could you re-post your comments from the courthouse today in this thread? That would be very helpful for fellow sleuthers.
I am not sure if you want all of them. Just say if I should trim this back..... Sorry no links
So we waited 3 hours for a 3 minute appearance BUT DG appeared in person. Since I was sitting right by the Sheriff with just plexiglass between us, he was 100% visible to me and close enough that I could almost hear him breathe. I will put some more info together in a sec but the info pasted over is accurate. dec 4 a private meeting and then May 19 preliminary. PS it was worth the 3 hour wait!
Amazingly no plea. Since they are moving ahead with preliminary, we are left to assume he is not pleading guilty. No request for a psych evaluation either.
I am just double checking a number of things.... Ito identifying people by the correct names and I will give a full report. For me, all the action happened outside the courtroom with the press.
Originally Posted by Lalalacasbah
I know you're going to update us later Cherchri, but did you find him small in stature? Healthy/unhealthy looking? Agitated or calm? Sad or neutral? Sorry, so many questions!
And I read he didn't make eye contact with anyone present. I'm still shocked more of the L and O families weren't there to make some sort of emotional impact on him. If guilty, he knows damn well where he put his victims, and I keep thinking he might budge more with the families there staring him down IMO.
Lala he would have had to turn around to make eye contact and he did not do that. The way the prisoners' area is set up, they face side-on to where the various counsel are situated. His hair is much fuller and longer now. He is definitely my height and quite a diminutive man. He looks as though he has lost some weight. I sat next to the sketch artist - Janice Fletcher. She did not have time to sketch him while he was in the court which may explain why her rendering looks nothing like him. I had a lovely long talk with Elissa Carpenter of CTV News. She has her own theory and I have to tell you that it varies only very slightly from mine. I overheard another reporter saying he is watching Breaking Bad on netflix as he is sure the victim disposal was close. Another said he was aware that lye was removed from the property and he had seen an overhead of an incinerator. He said "not an industrial incinerator" but an incinerator nonetheless. Elissa talked to me about the timeline of the truck on CCTV in Parkhill. First picked up at 9:15 and then again at 10:15. She speculates he would have seen JO's vehicle at 9:15 and came back later when it appeared "company" had left. I barely recognized RO who is now bearded - he kindly held the door for me on entering the courtroom. AL was with someone I thought o be PG. She held the door for me going out and was visibly teary eyed. Problem is, this lady had very long blonde hair and the only pics I have seen of PG her hair was brunette and not very long. I know PG has dimples but since this lady did not smile, I can't be sure it was her. Ch and her husband were there too and that was it for family. I have to say I had heart palpitations when I realized DG was being ushered in..... Shackled I might add. His facial expression did not vary an iota and it was much like the pic of him coming out of processing when he had just done the perp walk. Angry looking. As he was escorted out, he glanced into the room as if looking for a familiar face.....just a fleeting glance and then head down. So very little news to share just my firsthand experience. I am still overwhelmed at being do close to him - I could have whispered to him!
Ok just checked FB pics - pretty sure it was Nancy with AL.
Originally Posted by LoriMcA
Just a side note...court starts at 10 am Calgary time...here's hoping it's a slow day for cases and we get some news soon...
It actually started at 9. I sat through 8 other matters prior to DG's appearance. All but one were moved to later dates. One pleaded guilty and was sentenced. It's a bit of a sausage machine.
Thanks for the lowdown Cherchr! Who is Nancy? Where did you see a pic of PG? (I haven't seen one yet?) How do you know she has dimples (because you've seen her smiling photo?) No sighting of DG's parents? Was there a delay in DG's appearance specifically, or is that just how it happened to turn out timewise today (because of the other cases before his?) It was mentioned in MSM (as Otto posted just above) that KR had informed the court on how far he had progressed through the disclosure to date, did you happen to hear anything in that regard? Hey I came across an interesting article on the manufacture of meth.. I will post a link later.. thank you again for your report, it is great to have a WS member in attendance!
KR did not inform the court....I saw that report and scratched my head. I don't see that in any other reports and I certainly heard nothing to that effect. I have seen many pics of PG on Facebook. Only RO, NL, AL, CH and her husband were there. No other family of accused or victims. KR only showed up at 12 noon so who knows if that was by arrangement. The judge did ask very early in the day where KR was and why the sketch artist should have to sit there all morning. The judge is a very likeable man. Good humoured, kindly and very respectful to accused, counsel et al.
Originally Posted by LoriMcA
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Thank you SO much Cherchri! I just have to say WOW...about all of it....The 'theory' *one I also agree with* ...sure seems to be a popular one doesn't it?
9:15 & 10:15...well that would explain the 'almost daylight' lighting in the picture....possibly the screenshot from the police came from the 9:15 drive by....I'm thinking the woman with very long blonde hair ...maybe EL? JMOO
I'd be totally creeped out being THAT close....oh my.....thank you again for your time & all this first hand information!!
The reporters read our posts! One admitted that to me today. We know one of them picked up my post exposing who the POI was and claiming a scoop nearly 2 days later I shared my theory waaaaay back when and no, I have not watched Breaking Bad. After seeing the trailer of the guy in his y-fronts I decided it wasn't for me*
Originally Posted by Slebby
Cherchi. When you have a moment, can you tell us your theory? I'm sure you've laid it out before but I sort of take it all in without remembering which poster said what. Thanks.
Edited to add: we might as well rehash theories, we have until May before anything happens with this case...
My theory is that the victims were disposed of with lye and the calcified remains incinerated. Under pressure and feeling nauseated to even type it, I responded (separately) to someone's question as to how I thought the victims were murdered. I suggested they were bludgeoned with a tyre iron while sleeping. I can think of no reason why the victims would be removed from the scene unless it was to ensure that they would never be found. Why take that risk? I honestly feel sick even re typing this but there you have it.
Originally Posted by LoriMcA
If you google TP...she has a profile picture on Pinterest....is that her?
I think so. The lady today has much longer hair and it was sort of wild (ish)....naturally curly but yup it's her.