CANADA Canada - Barry, 75, & Honey Sherman, 70, found dead, Toronto, 15 Dec 2017 #19

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I thought they we

Way to go dotr! We appreciate all that dotr does here. We give credit where credit is due.

re just rerunning old news they thought we forgot. Was this never mentioned in public?

 

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The anniversary of the murders is coming soon. Anybody expecting a TPS Press Conference?

When are they expecting their next cheque from the family?

 

[dotr]

Is this the murderer of Barry and Honey Sherman or are Toronto police chasing a ghost? - NOW Magazine

Four years on, a source close to the police investigation says the killer (or killers) of the billionaire couple may not even be in Canada

nowtoronto.com

BY ENZO DIMATTEO Dec 17, 2021 rbbm.

''The 22-second clip – culled from about 2,000 hours of security camera footage collected from homes in the area of the Shermans’ former residence on Old Colony Road – shows someone in boots and a dark hooded coat walking on the sidewalk some 1.5 kilometres from the Sherman residence on the night of the murders.''

''Price says that police have been able to ascertain that the person in the video is between 5-foot-6 and 5-foot-9 inches tall. But he would not provide specific details on what it is about this person’s movements that make police think he is a suspect (as opposed to a person of interest) outside of the fact the individual entered an area “tight within the vicinity of the Sherman residence” and then left in the same direction they came in.''

''A source close to the investigation who spoke to NOW suggests the perpetrator (or perpetrators) may not even be in Canada. This source theorizes that the murders were contract killings carried out by a foreign actor, perhaps from an Eastern European or Middle Eastern country, who was likely part of a criminal organization.''

"Pleased to meet you, hope you guessed my name"

 

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In my humble opinion, I think the NW is a red herring put out there by desperate LE. I suspect he's just a guy out for a walk on a cold night.
QUESTION - is there public transit anywhere near the Sherman house?

Answering my own question:

How to get to Old Colony Road in Toronto by Bus, Subway or Train?

Moovit helps you to find the best routes to Old Colony Road using public transit and gives you step by step directions with updated schedule times for Bus, Subway or Train in Toronto.

moovitapp.com

Bus stations near Old Colony Road in Toronto​

Station Name	Distance
Bayview Ave at Forest Heights Blvd	8 min walk	VIEW
Bannatyne Dr at Dunlace Dr	12 min walk	VIEW
Fifeshire Rd at Caldy Crt North Side	13 min walk	VI

 

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Copied from dotr’s post above


''The 22-second clip – culled from about 2,000 hours of security camera footage collected from homes in the area of the Shermans’ former residence on Old Colony Road – shows someone in boots and a dark hooded coat walking on the sidewalk some 1.5 kilometres from the Sherman residence on the night of the murders.''

''Price says that police have been able to ascertain that the person in the video is between 5-foot-6 and 5-foot-9 inches tall. But he would not provide specific details on what it is about this person’s movements that make police think he is a suspect (as opposed to a person of interest) outside of the fact the individual entered an area “tight within the vicinity of the Sherman residence” and then left in the same direction they came in.''

Why did I think this person walked right past the Sherman house? Now it seems, from the quote here, that he was only near by. Confusing.

 

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Bungled for sure

Star Editorial Board: New evidence obtained by the Star shows the investigation of the Sherman murders was bungled from the start

‘Four and a half years after the murders of Barry and Honey Sherman, the identity of whoever was responsible is still a mystery. But it’s clear the case was bungled right from the get-go.’

www.stcatharinesstandard.ca

 

[dotr]

Bungled for sure

Star Editorial Board: New evidence obtained by the Star shows the investigation of the Sherman murders was bungled from the start

‘Four and a half years after the murders of Barry and Honey Sherman, the identity of whoever was responsible is still a mystery. But it’s clear the case was bungled right from the get-go.’

www.stcatharinesstandard.ca

From link, rbbm.
''None of this is to suggest that the Shermans’ deaths are more important than those of anyone else in this city. But as Donovan rightly asks: “If this can happen on a case with so much public scrutiny, what about the deaths that fly below the media radar?” The answer is obvious, and far from reassuring.''

 

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Dec 9 2022 rbbm.
Elianna Lev

'No justice for them, no closure for...my family': Timeline of developments in the Barry and Honey Sherman murder case

December 15 marks five years since prominent Canadian philanthropists Barry and Honey Sherman were found murdered inside their Toronto estate. Here is the full timeline of events of key developments in the case, dating back five years.

ca.news.yahoo.com

''Dec. 13, 2017 - Barry and Honey Sherman are last seen alive.

Dec. 15, 2017 - The bodies of the Shermans are discovered in their Toronto mansion. Their remains are found in the property’s basement pool room, approximately 36 hours after they were killed. Their deaths are considered “suspicious” by police.

Dec. 17, 2017: After an autopsy is completed, police determine the Shermans died from “ligature neck compression.” The investigation is handed over to homicide detectives. Reports quote police sources as saying they suspect the case to be a murder-suicide.

Dec. 21, 2017: A memorial service is held for the Shermans.

Dec. 23, 2017: A second autopsy is conducted by a pathologist hired by the Sherman family.

Dec. 28, 2017: A private investigator is hired by the Shermans' family lawyer to further investigate suspects and the possible cause of their deaths.

Jan. 26, 2018: The Shermans' death is determined by police to be a double-homicide and a targeted attack.

Oct. 26, 2018: A $10-million reward is offered by the Sherman family for any tips that lead to the arrest and prosecution of a suspect in the murders.''

Dec. 16, 2019: The private investigation into the Shermans’ death, headed by their family lawyer, is closed. The police appeal to the public for more information.

Nov 25, 2020: Police say a person of interest has been identified but not arrested.

Feb 3, 2021: A report reveals that the Shermans' son Jonathan has hired a retired Toronto police officer to further investigate his parents' death.

December 14, 2021: Police release a video of a suspect in the murder case. The short video shows a person walking near the neighbourhood of the Shermans' estate around the same timespan when they were murdered.''

Jan 14, 2022: Unsealed documents into the investigation of the Shermans deaths reveal Honey Sherman’s sister, Mary Shechtman, believed “someone was making a statement” in their murders. "The Shermans were strong supporters of Israel and Honey was very vocal about being Jewish,” she said. “There were a lot of people of a certain ethnicity going through the house at a certain time and Honey would use phrases that were not politically correct."

Oct 28., 2022: In an exclusive, The Toronto Star reports that a homicide detective in the case says it is taking an “international flair”.

GOLDSTEIN: Shocking anti-Semitism at University of Toronto’s medical school: report

Given that the UofT's faculty of medicine used to have a quota system for Jewish students, it’s not surprising anti-Semitism persists there.

torontosun.com

Damning report on antisemitism at U of T medical school sparks call for inquiry

Professor says hateful attitudes about Jews have been on the rise at the medical school for several years.

www.thestar.com

https://www.jpost.com/diaspora/antisemitism/article-724477

''A study detailing a Jewish professor's personal experiences with antisemitism was published soon after the dean apologized for 20th-century quotas on Jewish med school applicants.''

Chancellors' Circle of Benefactors

Chancellors' Circle of Benefactors

www.chancellorscircle.utoronto.ca

''As generous and visionary supporters of the University of Toronto, Honey and Barry Sherman donated millions of dollars to support education and research at the faculties of medicine and pharmacy, helping build state-of-the-art facilities and prepare future generations of innovators in those disciplines.''

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[Window21]

Today's newspaper, basically a recap but still a good read.

WARMINGTON: No arrests five years after murder of billionaires Barry and Honey Sherman

While Toronto Police don’t consider it a cold case, nothing appears colder than the unsolved murder of power couple Honey and Barry Sherman.

torontosun.com

 

[Lexiintoronto]

Barry and Honey Sherman’s daughter pleads for help to solve parents’ murder

In her statement, Alexandra Krawczyk noted that the Sherman family’s $10 million reward “for information leading to a conviction” remains “available and is still unclaimed.”

www.thestar.com

From the article you linked (emphasis mine):

“Honey left Apotex around 6:15 p.m. on the Wednesday and was home just before 8 p.m. after a brief shopping trip. Barry left Apotex shortly before 8:30 p.m. and was home before 9 p.m. Both were murdered before midnight, police said.”

The Star previously said HS was wearing her blue outwear vest when found and they believed she was attacked as she entered the home.

BS arrived around 8:50 pm. So it’s possible the killer was in the home for at least one hour. Add to that the time he walked at least 1.5 kms to and then from the home. It seems like a risky amount of time to spend in and near the home, imo.

Another detail is that the police previously said the Shermans were killed somewhere between 9:00 pm - 12:00 am, but they wouldn’t explain how they knew that. (I thought it was possibly based on timing of the suspect being caught on cctv). So the killer may have spent 1-4 hours in the home based on what we’ve been told so far.

 

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From the article you linked (emphasis mine):

“Honey left Apotex around 6:15 p.m. on the Wednesday and was home just before 8 p.m. after a brief shopping trip. Barry left Apotex shortly before 8:30 p.m. and was home before 9 p.m. Both were murdered before midnight, police said.”

The Star previously said HS was wearing her blue outwear vest when found and they believed she was attacked as she entered the home.

BS arrived around 8:50 pm. So it’s possible the killer was in the home for at least one hour. Add to that the time he walked at least 1.5 kms to and then from the home. It seems like a risky amount of time to spend in and near the home, imo.

Another detail is that the police previously said the Shermans were killed somewhere between 9:00 pm - 12:00 am, but they wouldn’t explain how they knew that. (I thought it was possibly based on timing of the suspect being caught on cctv). So the killer may have spent 1-4 hours in the home based on what we’ve been told so far.

Jonathan Sherman adding $25 million to the reward money.
his words ring hollow to me IMO, especially after saying Little to nothing for 5 years, except for a KD interview in which he didn’t seem to be consumed by grief.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/son-plea-honey-barry-sherman-homicides-1.6682409

 

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^^ I was just coming on here to mention that. It's been all over the morning news (TV) this AM.

From the CBC Article:

Sherman says every day since his parents' bodies were found "has been a nightmare."

"I have been overwhelmed with pain, loss, and sorrow and these feelings only continuously compound," he said.

"This immeasurable pain is felt every day when I realize that my own two children will never have the privilege of meeting my parents who made their lives possible for me and my husband.

"My parents deserved to enjoy the fruits of their labour, and spend their twilight years as any grandparent should, with their family. I continue to miss my parents more than I can describe, and I am forever haunted by what happened to them," he added.

Sherman says "as deeply personal as the pain and suffering has been," the loss of his parents extends much further, affecting the countless people whose lives they touched.

"Nothing will replace their incredible generosity and positive social impact. Their deaths have been a devastating loss for us all, leaving a massive void in our hearts, our lives and in our communities," he said.

 

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It looks to me like the Sherman siblings got together and decided to add more money as rewards. JMO

 

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In my humble opinion, I think the NW is a red herring put out there by desperate LE. I suspect he's just a guy out for a walk on a cold night.
QUESTION - is there public transit anywhere near the Sherman house?

Answering my own question:

How to get to Old Colony Road in Toronto by Bus, Subway or Train?

Moovit helps you to find the best routes to Old Colony Road using public transit and gives you step by step directions with updated schedule times for Bus, Subway or Train in Toronto.

moovitapp.com

Bus stations near Old Colony Road in Toronto​

Station Name	Distance
Bayview Ave at Forest Heights Blvd	8 min walk	VIEW
Bannatyne Dr at Dunlace Dr	12 min walk	VIEW
Fifeshire Rd at Caldy Crt North Side	13 min walk	VI

Why on earth would the TPS 'create' the NW, if he was not a real suspect? TPS already stated why they have him as a suspect, and why he is just not 'a guy out for a walk'.

 

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When was the NW video first shown to the public by LE?

 

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Why on earth would the TPS 'create' the NW, if he was not a real suspect? TPS already stated why they have him as a suspect, and why he is just not 'a guy out for a walk'.

Why? Distraction from bungling the case? To keep the RICH family happy that LE are doing something? To tell the media something of substance? The video of the NW isn’t right at the Sherman house. He’s seen about one km away. I do believe he was out walking. I just don’t see him as the killer, hired or not.JMHO

 

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When was the NW video first shown to the public by LE?

 

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When was the NW video first shown to the public by LE?

The video

 

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Jonathan Sherman adding $25 million to the reward money.
his words ring hollow to me IMO, especially after saying Little to nothing for 5 years, except for a KD interview in which he didn’t seem to be consumed by grief.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/son-plea-honey-barry-sherman-homicides-1.6682409

How does this seem untrue other than what you’ve described? Thanks in advance.

 

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The Star

Barry and Honey Sherman’s son raises reward to $35M, report says

Jonathon Sherman told CBC in a statement Sunday that he is personally adding $25 million to the $10 million put up by the family in late 2018.

www.thestar.com