GUILTY Canada - Marie-France Comeau, 37, & Jessica Lloyd, 27, slain, Ont, 2009 & 2010 - #5

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Oh, come on. Surely this can't be? Would our system really do this????

Sure our system would do this ;) ... could be PB will get some brownie points for digging up more dirt on RW. These guys rat each other out for a few more smokes or a Mars bar.

Or maybe a little fly on the wall amongst all that fecal matter, eh?
 
I heard an interview on CBC Connects tonight, and the journalist had been granted a tour of Kingston's Block H (solitary confinement), back in 2005, I think.

The things he described on there, make it sound like hell on earth.

The first thing he noticed was the stench. There were some inmates that haven't been outside in years.

There was plexiglass around where the guards stay. He asked why. Then, a bunch of brown things were suddenly thrown at the plexiglass. He said during the time he was there, that there were tonnes of brown things on the glass. Apparantly, the prisoners in the segregation units, store their fecal matter and fling it around.

Their cell is about the size of a car. Enough to pace about 3 paces, and only a little wider than spreading your arms apart.

The journalist said he would rather take the needle then spend his life rotting in a place like that.


I watched it, too. It was also said that the isolated lifers are watched 24/7 via closed circuit cameras. I wonder if those guards ever turn their eyes away for a few minutes, or fall asleep.

So much for the "Club Fed" some people feared. I think it's a safe bet that RW will not be having a day at the beach in Kingston Pen. A well-deserved life in hell on earth.

JMO
 
I just wanted to also point out that an offender being taken directly to Kingston Pen directly after sentencing is rare. Usually they are first taken to Millhaven to wait for a transfer. I see this as another way for the judge to show how serious he felt about this sentence. I notice he also pointed out there is no DP in Canada, almost like he was saying that's what RW deserved.
 
Okay. So, Williams clerk, his right hand woman, that did alot of his work for him at the Base, was interviewed on CBC Connects tonight.

SHE says that Marie France Comeau used to come into the office ALL THE TIME, because she wanted to get her rank increased.

Curious.
:eek:
Well, that is really interesting. So, the writings in the journal or whatever it was must be true.

ETA: Maybe not true it the interviewer misinterpreted or what was being said was embellished.
 
The death penalty is an easy way out.

This is a man who is used to being in control, cater to his every command and order, the freedom to be the Aircraft Commander of a 42 million dollar airplane, being the head of Canada's busiest Air Force base of over 3,000 people, hob knobbing with the big wigs, long distance running, living on the waterfront, very financially comfortable now and into his golden years.

Now? All of it, gone. Now, he's in a broom closet where he can't even take a crap in private. He really will be living in hell. I'm betting he will off himself in the near future...he'll devise a way.
 
Here's an interesting article from The Kingston Whig

He'll be subject to psychological screening and assessments of his escape risk and the danger he might pose to others inside the prison, particularly female staff. Female correctional officers work in all sections of the 175-year-old prison.

http://www.kingstonwhigstandard.com/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=2811048

I was actually thinking about this earlier, he is pretty handy with picking locks, wonder if he will try it?
 
I'm wondering a few things...


1. Is he wearing the big blue taco tonight?
2. Will his wife visit him there?
3. If he thinks he will eventually be "in charge" of his confinement.
 
I just wanted to also point out that an offender being taken directly to Kingston Pen directly after sentencing is rare. Usually they are first taken to Millhaven to wait for a transfer. I see this as another way for the judge to show how serious he felt about this sentence. I notice he also pointed out there is no DP in Canada, almost like he was saying that's what RW deserved.

I suspect it was part of the agreement that the Crown and Defense reached before he pled guilty - that he would go directly to Kingston.
 
I found it frustrating that they blacked out all of the interview portion where they discussed possible connections to other crimes in Ottawa. I understand why they did it but I am very curious as to what he had to say.

I also find it strange that Marie France called him a *advertiser censored*...It gave me the impression that she thought she knew who it was as well. And the last portion of the interview that left me scratching my head was when he was asked about what he did to her breasts. He denies that he did anything unusual but the detective insists that they have proof that he did...

All-in-all it was a chilling confession to read - mostly because he never once even said that he was weird, sick, or anything. Like he was telling a story about a work assignment!

ETA - The other very odd thing was his comment about numbers and how "he's like that" with numbers.
 

the enormity really hits home when watching these

Det.-Sgt. Smyth is incredibly patient - & this is only a sliver of what he & (presumably) other LE sat through & I almost could not stand the silences
 
The death penalty is an easy way out.

This is a man who is used to being in control, cater to his every command and order, the freedom to be the Aircraft Commander of a 42 million dollar airplane, being the head of Canada's busiest Air Force base of over 3,000 people, hob knobbing with the big wigs, long distance running, living on the waterfront, very financially comfortable now and into his golden years.

Now? All of it, gone. Now, he's in a broom closet where he can't even take a crap in private. He really will be living in hell. I'm betting he will off himself in the near future...he'll devise a way.

That is the only time that I want to hear about him in the news again....when he ends his life, it sure will save us the tax dollars!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 


“This encircling (many circles), suggests a false front, maliciousness, someone who doesn’t want anything to get out or away, someone who is a teller of tales, and someone who is, quite simply, dangerous.”

"... handwriting has been shown to be a “paper mirror of one's personality.”


If that's the case, I'm in trouble. Or rather, those around me are in trouble since I'm apparently malicious and dangerous. My signature has big circles/loops like RW's.

I'm usually quite sincere, although I do have secrets (who doesn't?) and I have been known to spin a yarn ...

Charal knows of no handwriting analysts working for the military, but suggested that it couldn't hurt in raising “flags” about potential military leaders.

Come on, really???!

Arghhh.
 
“This encircling (many circles), suggests a false front, maliciousness, someone who doesn’t want anything to get out or away, someone who is a teller of tales, and someone who is, quite simply, dangerous.”

"... handwriting has been shown to be a “paper mirror of one's personality.”


If that's the case, I'm in trouble. Or rather, those around me are in trouble since I'm apparently malicious and dangerous. My signature has big circles/loops like RW's.

I'm usually quite sincere, although I do have secrets (who doesn't?) and I have been known to spin a yarn ...

Charal knows of no handwriting analysts working for the military, but suggested that it couldn't hurt in raising “flags” about potential military leaders.

Come on, really???!

Arghhh.

Charal knows of no handwriting analysts working for the military, but suggested that it couldn't hurt in raising “flags” about potential military leaders.
OMG, can you imagine...sorry we cannot hire you, you have encircling handwriting, therefore you are apparently malicious and dangerous.

Why would this newspaper even print this article!!!!!!
 
Charal knows of no handwriting analysts working for the military, but suggested that it couldn't hurt in raising “flags” about potential military leaders.
OMG, can you imagine...sorry we cannot hire you, you have encircling handwriting, therefore you are apparently malicious and dangerous.

Why would this newspaper even print this article!!!!!!

exactly - it's entertainment at best IMO
 
Statement by defence

By lawyer Michael Edelson at the sentencing of Russell Williams Thursday:


Thank you, Your Honour. Your Honour, the defence is well aware that on the two first-degree murder charges the mandatory life sentences are to be imposed this morning.


With respect to the sentences remaining on the docket, we take no issue with what Crown counsel is proposing, the 10 years on the sexual assaults and forcible confinements and the one year on each of the break and enters, to be served currently with the life sentences.


Your Honour, as defence counsel for Mr. Williams, we acknowledge that the Crown’s presentation of the evidence against him, with its graphic description, disturbing photographs and chilling narrative of his sinister crimes, has left a deep and indelible mark on everyone associated with this case. The defence is further faced with the reality that, in light of Mr. Williams’ pleas of guilty, there is in essence nothing that can be said to change the legal outcome and consequences here today.


The defence is therefore confronted with a legal paradox. We are at a sentencing hearing and yet we are faced with the fact that there is no submission that can be made to alter the maximum sentence that our client will soon receive. But that does not necessarily end it. It does not because the societal goals of sentencing are meant to transcend the imposition of statutorily mandated minimum sentences, even when that sentence is a life imprisonment sentence. While the retribution and punishment of two concurrent life sentences will be foremost in the minds of many, the reality is that Mr. Williams’ pleas may serve to provide some measure of reparation in the context of criminal justice for the harm done to his victims and to the communities in which he committed his crimes.


In the context of criminal proceedings, it is not the role of the defence to specifically address the victim impact resulting from our client’s crime. But we wish to acknowledge their suffering and also to publicly declare that we empathize with these victims and what they’ve had to endure. Their pain is incalculable and really beyond our comprehension.


Mr. Williams’ pleas, in and of themselves, demonstrate a public acknowledgement of the harm he has caused and the salutary effect that may flow from his pleas of guilty. When gauging the significance to be assigned to his pleas, it is important to consider we live in a society where despite whatever crimes one might have been charged with and regardless of how overwhelming the evidence is purported to be, the accused has a constitutionally enshrined right to declare “I am not guilty” and proceed to trial. When this happens, the person is presumed innocent in the eyes of the law until the Crown proves beyond a reasonable doubt each and every essential element of every charge.


It should be acknowledged that the act of pleading guilty to even a single count of first-degree murder in Canada is a rarity. Mr. Williams’ exceedingly uncommon pleas to first-degree murder are further accentuated by the fact that he, through his instructions to counsel, has expedited his case through the courts with unprecedented speed and efficiency in a legal system which can, by necessity, generate significant delays that often exacerbate the emotional suffering of those affected by the case. In so doing, he has lessened the turmoil that is generated when facts as damaging as those we have heard are required to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt in a lengthy trial as opposed to this case where they have been placed before the court in an agreed statement of facts.


We must also consider that a case of this magnitude and potential complexity, notwithstanding the purported strength of the evidence, if challenged in court could take several years to reach its ultimate conclusion.


When confronted with the evidence and the investigatory process that was rapidly unfolding, Mr. Williams struggled but ultimately he decided to confess. Once that decision was made, he thereafter demonstrated an unusual and unwavering level of co-operation with the police over many days. His confession was extremely detailed and led to the recovery of virtually all of the electronics and much of the physical evidence that has been placed before the court during the preceding three days. As a result of his interview with the police, the authorities were able to lay 82 counts of break and enter, relating to 48 victims. However, it is important to know that only 17 of the 48 homeowners had reported to the police that their homes had been broken into. The Belleville and the Ottawa police services thoroughly investigated 17 homes that were the subject of the break and enter offences, and until he confessed, they were unable to identify a suspect.


It is important to note that subsequent to his Feb. 7 confession, Mr. Williams consented to further police interviews on Feb. 11, 16, 17, March 4, 5 and 11. These subsequent interviews occurred after he had the opportunity to receive legal advice relating to whether he was required to co-operate. As we know, an accused in our country is not required to assist the police in the furtherance of the case against him.


Between paragraphs 295 and 320 in the agreed statement of facts, there’s a detailed enumeration of the extent to which his complete co-operation with the police was made concerning these crimes. In addition to this co-operation with the police, on Feb. 9 he asked the military chaplain who was visiting him to inform the police that further audio and visual evidence could be found in his Tweed home. His confession was detailed and comprehensive. Although Sgt. Smyth initially doubted that he had confessed fully given the age at which he started to commit these offences as set out in paragraph 315, an extensive police investigation to date has not resulted in any evidence relating to other offences being committed by him as confirmed in paragraph 360. Moreover, it should be noted that when the police were unable to locate Ms. Lloyd’s body, he actually physically led them to her.


He also interpreted for the investigators the computer coding system and complex file storage system which the Crown has alluded to. These folders and drives contained the digital evidence to which reference has been made in many counts before the court. It is important to note that apart from minor contextual changes and correcting minor factual inaccuracies, Mr. Williams agreed to the very early versions of the statement of facts as has been presented to this court. Our client asserted clearly and early in the process his intention was to plead guilty to all his crimes. This is acknowledged in the agreed statement of facts in paragraph 315.

We are aware that there is scarcely anything we could say about his past, his position, or his accomplishments that the court is not aware of. Our client has been the topic of scores of media stories, opinions and speculations. The juxtaposition of his revered and respected position of colonel and base commander against his abhorrent and unthinkable actions has served to raise the awareness of this case and his life to a level that has rarely been experienced in Canadian legal history.


In a typical sentencing hearing where the nature and the length of the punishment may be an issue, it would be incumbent upon the defence to tell the court all that needs to be said about the background of the offender. In the context of this case and particularly in light of the extensive media coverage it has generated, it would be naive to think that there is much left to disclose about our client’s past and personal circumstances at the time of the offences. There are undoubtedly many questions about what factors motivated Mr. Williams to commit these heinous crimes. These questions include what triggered the escalation of his criminal conduct, his loss of control, his obsessive behaviour. The reality is that these questions and the presence or absence of answers will play no role in the determination of the sentence that he will receive. The exclusive determinative factors impacting on sentence are his acceptance of responsibility and his pleas of guilt.


Notwithstanding his unwavering intention to plead guilty, the professional obligation of defence counsel and the administration of justice requires further steps be taken to assure this court that we have carried out due diligence to determine 1) that the standard of criminal responsibility was met in this case; 2) that Mr. Williams was able to properly instruct counsel; and 3) that his decisions were predicated upon him being fully informed. It is hoped that perhaps in time his pleas of guilty might be viewed as an act of atonement by those that he has scarred. He cannot stand before this court and expect forgiveness. Indeed, from a fundamental and moral perspective, one could debate whether he’s even entitled to ask for forgiveness. We can, however, hope that the act of pleading guilty might in some way at some time aid in the healing process. That hope, however, will be tempered by the harsh and sad reality that it is unlikely that anyone affected will likely ever fully recover from his crimes.


As a man about to receive two concurrent life sentences, he has destroyed not only the lives of his victims and their loved ones, he has also ruined his own life and has irreparably damaged the lives of those who were closest to him. I hasten to clarify that this discrete submission is not meant to raise any sympathy for our client, but his personal self-destruction is not to be ignored. The calculus of a life sentence is emphatically simple. It means that he will be in prison for the rest of his life and that he will only be eligible to apply for parole after serving 25 years. Mr. Williams pleaded guilty knowing that he will receive the most severe punishment that our criminal justice system can mete out.


We would also be remiss if we did not quell the media speculation that he or we as his counsel made any attempt to secure special custodial or institutional consideration. This is simply not the case.


One of the hallmarks of our democracy is that we maintain our sense of dignity and our adherence to the rule of law even when punishing those convicted of committing the most horrifying crimes. We pride ourselves on doing so in a manner that commands respect for the administration of justice and we try to ensure that our courts are open and transparent to the public and media. Such, we hope, was the case with this hearing. Our common law and the codifications of the principles of sentences remind us that this day should not be viewed one-dimensionally through the lawyers’ prism. This day is not only about punishment and retribution. This day must also be viewed through the lens of the victim, focusing on loss, remembrance, sorrow and emotional pain. The dots on the exhibit maps illustrate the physical location of the crimes, but the emotional impact of these offences has been seismic, starting with the immediate impact on the victims themselves. And thereafter, reverberating outwards to impact the families, the friends, and the communities. It does not stop there. The impact continues to reverberate into the greater community and the Canadian Forces family. Indeed, these shock waves have rocked the Canadian public at large and have generated a sense of incredulity, anger and enormous sadness and sympathy for all of the victims and their loved ones. Russell Williams knows that he stands at the epicentre of these shock waves and now, as signalled by his pleas of guilt, he is prepared to take responsibility for the damage that he has caused.


 
Russell Williams Statement

I stand before you, your honour, indescribably ashamed. I know that the crimes I've committed have traumatized many people. The families and friends of Marie-France Comeau and Jessica Lloyd, in particular, have suffered and continue to suffer profound desperate pain and sorrow as a result of what I've done. My assaults of (publication of name prohibited) and Ms. (Laurie) Massicotte have caused them to suffer terribly as well, I know.

Numerous victims of the break and enters I've committed have been very seriously distressed as a result of my so having invaded their most intimate privacy.
My family, your honour, has been irreparably harmed. The understandable hatred that was expressed yesterday, and has been palpable throughout the week, has me recognize this.

(There are) those who will find it impossible to accept, but the fact is, I very deeply regret what I have done and the harm that I know I have caused to many. I've committed despicable crimes, your honour. In the process, betraying my family, my friends and colleagues, and the Canadian Forces.

I shall spend the rest of my life regretting, above all, that I've ended two vibrant, innocent and cherished lives.

My very sincere hope is that my detailed confession on the night of Feb. 7, my full co-operation with investigators since, and ultimately my guilty pleas earlier this week have, in some way, served to temper the very serious harm I caused my victims, and their families and friends.

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/ca...-court-by-col-russell-williams-105458263.html
 
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