CANADA Canada - Montreal, WhtMale 20s, bright red hair, 'Michel' on bracelet, Jul'11

[azure]

Azure, was the reply you got in French, or the reply asked you to call them but speak French when you do? The latter would be a touch bizarre frankly.

The reply I got was in French! My email was in English. That's when I decided it was probably more worthwhile to have a French-speaking person call.

 

[The 'Wood]

The reply I got was in French! My email was in English. That's when I decided it was probably more worthwhile to have a French-speaking person call.

I, or others, could read/translate, if you want.

 

[azure]

I, or others, could read/translate, if you want.

The email simply told me that I needed to call for information.

I'm sorry that this has become so confusing, I thought it was pretty straightforward. I emailed in English asking if this Doe had been identified. The Montreal police replied, in French, that I would need to call them for info.

Given that I emailed in English and their reply was in French, I thought it was pretty unlikely that they'd share details that haven't been made public with someone speaking English, because of the language barrier and various other reasons.

 

[musicaljoke]

The email simply told me that I needed to call for information.

I'm sorry that this has become so confusing, I thought it was pretty straightforward. I emailed in English asking if this Doe had been identified. The Montreal police replied, in French, that I would need to call them for info.

Given that I emailed in English and their reply was in French, I thought it was pretty unlikely that they'd share details that haven't been made public with someone speaking English, because of the language barrier and various other reasons.

You can be pretty sure that there is no language barrier. Folks in Montreal are bilingual, but they may be required to correspond in French.

 

[ChatteringBirds]

Bumping case up. Is the status still that only the one very blurry pic is available, and we aren't sure if he was ever identified?

 

[musicaljoke]

Maybe we can help ....

Montreal police seek help to identify body


He had no identity papers - and a bracelet engraved with Michel, which may or may not be his name.

Montreal police are asking for help to identify a man found dead in early July.

The mystery man, in his 20s, was 5 foot 9 inches, 75 kilograms and had brown eyes and shoulder-length bright orange hair.

He was wearing a baseball jersey - white with red sleeves - brown cargo pants, beige socks and brown sport shoes when he was found. In addition to the bracelet, he wore a Lord of the Rings-type band on one finger and a green elastic around his left bicep.


Read more: Montreal Gazette

Could he be Michael Hammond, missing from BC since 1991?

CANADA - Canada - Michael Hammond, 16, Richmond, BC, 24 Nov 1991

I know this website has his eyes listed as blue, but, to me they don't appear to be blue, blue in the photo of him. I also have not found a description of him such as height, weight, etc. I thought he was worth looking into more. The site lists him as being born January 21, 1975, having blue...

www.websleuths.com

 

[dotr]

Corps non identifiés - Service de police de la Ville de Montréal - SPVM

spvm.qc.ca

Unidentified body​ File number: 48-110707-015​ On July 2, 2011, a man was spotted on the Jacques Cartier Bridge. He jumped and his body was found on July 7, 2011 on the banks of the St. Lawrence River.

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Discovered on	July 7, 2011
Sex	Masculine
Complexion	Pale/Light
Eyes	Brown
Hair	Roux
Weight	148 - 168 kg
Waist	175 cm / 5'-9" - 188 cm / 6'-2"
Estimated Age	28 - 32
File Number	48-110707-015
Footage
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Clothing
Type of Clothing	Other
Garment Color	Green
Note	Left bicep elastic
Type of Clothing	Jewellery
Garment Color	Silver, Aluminum, Stainless Steel
Note	Thin bracelet with rings, on the left wrist with the possibility of inscription 'Michel'
Type of Clothing	Socks
Garment Color	Beige
Type of Clothing	Jewellery
Note	'Lord of the Rings' style ring
Type of Clothing	Trousers
Garment Color	Beige
Note	Cargo Style
Type of Clothing	Sweater
Garment Color	White, Red
Note	With red long sleeves
Type of Clothing	Shoes
Garment Color	Brown
Note	Sporty style

Distinctive
Trait	Scar
Stroke location	Right wrist

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[eidetic_j]

Ok, I found the coroner's report for this UID : Une erreur s'est produite.

Page 9


Still unidentified in this report (in French)


We learn that no tat was found. However, the corpse was badly decomposed.

Do you still have the full report?

 

[eidetic_j]

I wrote to the coroner’s bureau a couple weeks ago to obtain the coroner’s report since the one that was publish here in 2018. That made my request easier since the page published contained the name of the coroner and the case file number.

They responded yesterday and they told me that since this wasn’t a suspicious death the coroner never investigated this and never made a report .

What do you think? Is that a common response?

 

[ChatteringBirds]

@eidetic_j thank you for caring about this case and for working on it. I don't know what the standard is for suicide victims and know nothing about procedures in Canada, but I really hope he will be identified.

 

[eidetic_j]

@eidetic_j thank you for caring about this case and for working on it. I don't know what the standard is for suicide victims and know nothing about procedures in Canada, but I really hope he will be identified.

The thing is this report exist, it was posted on here in 2018. I even gave them the name of the coroner who sign the report. I find this odd .

 

[ALadInsane]

The thing is this report exist, it was posted on here in 2018. I even gave them the name of the coroner who sign the report. I find this odd .

You are right. I clearly remember reading that report way back.

 

[branmuffin]

The thing is this report exist, it was posted on here in 2018. I even gave them the name of the coroner who sign the report. I find this odd .

It was an obvious suicide so for the coroner it's an open and shut case. It may have something to do with the time element involved where files are purged when considered closed.

 

[branmuffin]

I'm not going to say that all men with the name Michel are French but the odds are that he is French and if he's a French Canadian there's a good possibility he's Roman Catholic. His parents or family members may have already identified him and requested anonymity because he committed suicide. He wouldn't be the first suicide whose name is not released to the public. So not having a coroner's report is one thing but if he is still listed as a UID person then I presume no one has come forward to claim him, either as a conscious act or an unknown one.

 

[Diavola]

Bumping.

 

[wj1985]

The thing is this report exist, it was posted on here in 2018. I even gave them the name of the coroner who sign the report. I find this odd .

Hello,
The report exist and I was able to find it through my archives This case is so intriguing. I remembered that I saw something in the news about it. The report is in french.

 

[dotr]

Hello,
The report exist and I was able to find it through my archives This case is so intriguing. I remembered that I saw something in the news about it. The report is in french.

Welcome to Ws @wj1985, thanks for the link!

 

[Ark]

I wrote to the coroner’s bureau a couple weeks ago to obtain the coroner’s report since the one that was publish here in 2018. That made my request easier since the page published contained the name of the coroner and the case file number.

They responded yesterday and they told me that since this wasn’t a suspicious death the coroner never investigated this and never made a report .

What do you think? Is that a common response?

There is so much wrong with this response. If it was deemed a suicide it would 100% have a coroner's report. HOWEVER, this person is currently unidentified, so there also should not be a coroner's report written until he is identified. One of the questions a coroner has to answer before they can write a report is "Who". They don't yet know that in this case, so i'm surprised one was even written beforehand. It was definitely a coroner's report posted here in 2018?? Not a med cert or something similar?

 

[Ark]

Never mind I should have read up several posts and opened the link posted. Shocked that there was a report completed. Maybe it works differently in different provinces here...

 

[Cryptic]

I'm not going to say that all men with the name Michel are French but the odds are that he is French and if he's a French Canadian...

I have never been to Canada.

That aside, how common is bright red hair amongst French Canadians? And what about in France?

My French relatives are from a fading sub group where red heads are rare (to say the least) and likely to stand out. I dont know about the over all French population though.