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I'm really confused... Has he been ID'ed???
No, he has not been identified, and I don't know how his thread ended up in Identified. I've moved it back here where it belongs.
I'm really confused... Has he been ID'ed???
Randy sure resembles our Doe, doesn't he? I find it eerie that people had been threatening to cut off parts of his body while Sam was discovered with one particular part of his body removed-- a body part that's more symbolic than something like a finger or an ear.
The clothing preference might not work with this theory, though, since someone who likes pea coats and Wellington boots might not be into Levi work shirts and knockoff Wallabees, imo.
(And, sorry to be ignorant about human anatomy, but why would diabetes be a dissuading factor? That's not something that would show on the body postmortem, is it?)
Now that you mention it. I think Welding when I think blowtorches.When I think of blowtorches, cigarettes, and work shirts, I think of mechanics. Just throwing it out there since he may have been in another industry and not a farmhand.
Diabetes cannot be detected through autopsy but death from ketoacidosis can be detected (this was actually on my medicolegal final! Funny timing.) Randy’s mom was quoted in a newspaper article saying she felt he could not have lived long after being taken because he didnt have any insulin with him.
A quick following on this,Hello guys, while searching online about the UID, I came across a possible match:
Guy Carignan, missing since April 18th 1973 from Québec
23 years old at the time (if he's the UID, his age would have been 27 by 1977)
5 ft 9 inches
Brown hair and eyes
Hi Feme98 - Canada has a database for missing persons and unidentified remains and Septic Tank Sam is in the database.
The case reference is 2014001122 and you can e-mail Crime Stoppers or the RCMP as follows -
If you have information on this case, please contact any of the following:
Canada's Missing | Case details
- Tofield RCMP: (780)662-3353
Reference Case#: 2012502446
- Crime Stoppers: 1-800-222-TIPS(8477) or online at TipSoft - Web Tip Submission
Crime Stoppers provides anonymous tipping
- Send email to the National Centre for Missing Persons and Unidentified Remains at:
canadasmissing-disparuscanada@rcmp-grc.gc.ca
Cheers!
This just popped up, looks interesting.
Started Ws thread..
CANADA - Murphy WILLIAMS, 35, Dawson Creek, BC,15 August 1974
https://ckpgtoday.ca/2019/08/01/cold-case-45th-anniversary-of-dawson-creek-missing-person/
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Cold Case: 45th anniversary of Dawson Creek missing person
Aug 01, 2019
"DAWSON CREEK– An RCMP missing persons cold case will have it’s 45-year anniversary on August 15th.
Murphy Williams was last seen on the morning of August 15th, 1974 at a farm residence near Mile 30 on the Alaksa Highway where he had been working for the previous two days. Williams was reported missing by a family member in Fort St. John."
- Aboriginal
- 35-years-old (when he went missing)
- Approx. 170lbs
- Approx.5’8 in height"
They look strikingly similar. And the timelines seem to add up, as well. The only thing that I'm stuck on is that it's a 6 hour drive between Dawson Creek and Tofield, but assuming he was travelling to find work, that might not have been a problem. Also, there was a couple of years in-between when Williams went missing and when John Doe was discovered, so I guess time will tell.Wow, he truly remembles the UID, it would be good if a family member of Murphy submits a DNA sample for comparison
This just popped up, looks interesting.
Started Ws thread..
CANADA - Murphy WILLIAMS, 35, Dawson Creek, BC,15 August 1974
https://ckpgtoday.ca/2019/08/01/cold-case-45th-anniversary-of-dawson-creek-missing-person/
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Cold Case: 45th anniversary of Dawson Creek missing person
Aug 01, 2019
"DAWSON CREEK– An RCMP missing persons cold case will have it’s 45-year anniversary on August 15th.
Murphy Williams was last seen on the morning of August 15th, 1974 at a farm residence near Mile 30 on the Alaksa Highway where he had been working for the previous two days. Williams was reported missing by a family member in Fort St. John."
- Aboriginal
- 35-years-old (when he went missing)
- Approx. 170lbs
- Approx.5’8 in height"
Welcome to Ws MorbidLace, thanks!They look strikingly similar. And the timelines seem to add up, as well. The only thing that I'm stuck on is that it's a 6 hour drive between Dawson Creek and Tofield, but assuming he was travelling to find work, that might not have been a problem. Also, there was a couple of years in-between when Williams went missing and when John Doe was discovered, so I guess time will tell.
I just called the Dawson Creek RCMP to let them know about this possible link!! They're going to look into it and let me know if anything comes of it. I will, of course, keep this thread updated as well!