Thanks dizzychick for starting this thread. It was interesting and difficult to listen to. Hal's blog said she sounded strong and confident in her answers - and I wondered if he was listening to the same audio that I was.
To me she sounded hestitant and unsure - some of her "yes sir" answers cme so quickly they showed her nervousness and with others she needed lengthy breaks to consult with Mr Greene.
Why she consulted with him I don't know because apparently he wasn't even listed as an attorney on record for the hearing. I guess the BK meeting has different rules.
Also she was doing her "trying to sound like a lawyer" by using legal terms that on her and the way she uses them just ends up sounding silly.
I hope there is a more indepth questioning or examination of the facts down the road before she is granted a discharge, because that was a very simplistic reading of questions that to mee sounded totally ineffective to sort out real need from a freeloading cop-out. All IMO of course.
ooh rah regarding the bold. she definitely
savors using certain words, like counsel and leeeegal. I think she gets a shiver along her spine when she says "counsel", like she's the head of some earth-shaking, precedent-setting team of movers and shakers in the leeeegal world
there's a big-time scam going on with the money. obviously CA is sending cash and gift cards in envelopes addressed with her dominant hand, her other hand, and both feet. (and driving to all different post offices to mail the "anonymous, unsolicited" bounty)
wouldn't it be delicious if their grifting is what finally brings them down?
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what have been your sources of money for you to live on, and where has this money come from in the last, um, couple, the last two years?
some of the money has come from unsolicited donations, from various individuals, and some of the other money also came from Jose Baez.
OK
the bulk of the money, I'm sorry, came from Jose Baez
OK, and how do you receive the money? is ...
sorry ... (confers w/ atty) ... um, I received about 3400 dollars from Mr Baez, that I received from him directly.
everything else is sent to, and I get through, my attorneys
through your attorneys, OK
yes
[Green]
she'd like to clarify that, please
OK
these items, again, they're unsolicited things that come from people that I don't personally know, that my leeegal team doesn't personally know
OK, they come, they don't come directly to you?
no
OK. if I may have them?
mmm, hmm
[lots of whispering]
Mr Green? if, if the debtor has a question that she needs some sort of clarification, she can, you know, ask you, but I would prefer that, you know, we get, you know, an answer, you know, an answer on the question. if she has a question she can pause and consult with you, that's, you know, perfectly fine. but when I, if I ask a question and she can answer, we need to have her answer it, OK?
[Green] I'll play my role of counsel and you play your role of trustee ...
OK
... and we'll do the best we can
OK, so your attorneys have the control, are the ones who kind of control the money for you, is what you said
[Green]
I need to consult with my client about that one
no problem
[whispering/conferring, can hear "_ _ _ _ excluded", then Green says] you can go ahead and answer
OK. my attorneys don't control the money but they do distribute (emphasis on "control" is hers)
they distribute the money, OK. and who has been arranging where you live?
(obvious pause)
friends and counsel
friends and counsel. do you, or someone on your behalf, pay for you staying there, staying wherever you are living. or do you live for free, or ? when you're living at, where you live?
I guess if I can clarify that. um, I don't pay rentttt, I don't pay utilities, so I'm, I guess you could say that I'm living for free, or off the kindness of the people that I'm staying with
OK. and who is handling your finances today? who's handling your finances, you know, as of now, as of this moment?
friends
friends. and do you buy your own food, or who's been buying food for you?
I try to contribute when I can but usually it's, it's also friends buying food