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They are both (mom and daughter) sociopaths imo. Check this out: Profile of the Sociopath




* Glibness and Superficial Charm (Casey in her interview with LE and FBI the day of her arrest for MURDER!)
(Cindy on every talk show interview)
* Manipulative and Conning
They never recognize the rights of others and see their self-serving behaviors as permissible. They appear to be charming, yet are covertly hostile and domineering, seeing their victim as merely an instrument to be used. They may dominate and humiliate their victims. (Cindy in her deposition and Cindy taking down the crosses near Caylee's tree, the way Cindy belittled Casey to her friends and Jesse)

* Grandiose Sense of Self
Feels entitled to certain things as "their right." (Cindy demanding, and I do mean demanding to know the relevance of a question posed to her in a deposition, was absolutely priceless) I thought the young attorney was quite charming and calm, "Brad, perhaps you can explain to her that she may not ask any questions here" and later, still calm, "Brad, c'mon, you are an experienced attorney, you know the rules of procedure here", he was absolutely astonished that Cindy was so very very ill prepared and mislead. Cindy was livid, insulted, and combative. In a courtroom with a judge, that would have not been tolerated. The judge would help her understand her sense of self is misguided. LOL

* Pathological Lying
Has no problem lying coolly and easily and it is almost impossible for them to be truthful on a consistent basis. Can create, and get caught up in, a complex belief about their own powers and abilities. Extremely convincing and even able to pass lie detector tests.
(Yuri mentioned that she never once showed any sign of concern or cried for her "missing" baby. she took them to her imaginary office walking them down the hall "with a purpose".) Regarding Cindy , my favorite is her telling her brother and co-workers that Casey is not pregnant, when she is seven full months and quite evidently pregnant!

*Lack of Remorse, Shame or Guilt
A deep seated rage, which is split off and repressed, is at their core. Does not see others around them as people, but only as targets and opportunities. Instead of friends, they have victims and accomplices who end up as victims. The end always justifies the means and they let nothing stand in their way.
(She admitted in a jail house visit with mom and pop she had not cried once since she had been jailed.) Seasoned homicide detectives could not shame her into a confession, she remained stoic throughout long hours of interrogation that mafia members would have buckled under.

* Shallow Emotions
When they show what seems to be warmth, joy, love and compassion it is more feigned than experienced and serves an ulterior motive. Outraged by insignificant matters, yet remaining unmoved and cold by what would upset a normal person. Since they are not genuine, neither are their promises. Earlier on the day of her arrest for murder, Casey stood near Jose at a press conference in her white shirt and black bra showing through and forced one single tear that she wiped away six or seven times.

* Incapacity for Love (Obviously she did not love Grampa, to steal from his nursing home account. she didn't love Jesse, she didn't love Amy and clearly she did not love her parents or the baby. "All they care about is getting Caylee back!" Casey said to her buddy regarding her parents.)

* Need for Stimulation
Living on the edge. Verbal outbursts and physical punishments are normal. Promiscuity and gambling are common.

* Callousness/Lack of Empathy
Unable to empathize with the pain of their victims, having only contempt for others' feelings of distress and readily taking advantage of them.( When George and Cindy were telling her how hard it has been, that they are getting hate mail , brother has been sick, dad exploded at the media, she shows zero concern and just talks over a weeping Cindy to tell how she has only received supportive letters. The cold way she ignores them in the courtroom is textbook. She enjoys hurting them. She never mentions concern for her baby, is she eating, is she well, is she scared, is she sleeping...no mention of concern for her at all.)

* Poor Behavioral Controls/Impulsive Nature

Rage and abuse, alternating with small expressions of love and approval produce an addictive cycle for abuser and abused, as well as creating hopelessness in the victim. Believe they are all-powerful, all-knowing, entitled to every wish, no sense of personal boundaries, no concern for their impact on others.
(Cindy-Casey relationship 101)

* Early Behavior Problems/Juvenile Delinquency

Usually has a history of behavioral and academic difficulties, yet "gets by" by conning others. Problems in making and keeping friends; aberrant behaviors such as cruelty to people or animals, stealing, etc. (Casey switched groups of friends like most gals change purses, and she sure switched boys often too)

* Irresponsibility/Unreliability
Not concerned about wrecking others' lives and dreams. Oblivious or indifferent to the devastation they cause. Does not accept blame themselves, but blames others, even for acts they obviously committed. (Amy, Jesse, et al, she showed Lee no concern, whatsoever, for how his life was turned upside down trying to find the baby for her, and she could not care less about her grandparents and how this was affecting their health, she laughed at Cindy for breaking down in tears, "Why is she crying!?" she had the nerve to ask George.

* Promiscuous Sexual Behavior/Infidelity
Promiscuity, child sexual abuse, rape and sexual acting out of all sorts. (all of her photos on her photo sites read more like advertisements for prostitution, like the one that says, "I've got tricks you have never seen, baby", she has lots of *advertiser censored* saved and for a young girl she slept around pretty recklessly. She seemed to enjoy playing the boys off one another trying to make them jealous sexually.

* Lack of Realistic Life Plan/Parasitic Lifestyle
(Casey)
Tends to move around a lot or makes all encompassing promises for the future, poor work ethic but exploits others effectively.

* Criminal or Entrepreneurial Versatility
Changes their image as needed to avoid prosecution. Changes life story readily.
We know or believe she had a fake ID, was happy to utter someone else's checks and has indeed been charged with fraud, Casey that is. we know she had a different story for every week about what she does for a living, how much money she has, where she is buying a house, she is practically engaged to Jeff, Tony wants to take her back to NY, Ricardo loves, her, Jesse chases her relentlessly, and my personal favorite is the ever changing story of who is the baby's father, how he died, the trust he set up for the baby, the wife doesn't mind and calls Casey, although his parents do not know and she is too honorable to tarnish his memory in their eyes by divulging this secret about their son to them.
Other Related Qualities:

UNABLE TO FEEL remorse or guilt, Casey to the police, "I will lie, cheat or steal I do not care, I will do whatever it takes!"
Extreme narcissism and grandiose[/u][/b]
May state readily that their goal is to rule the world


(The above traits are based on the psychopathy checklists of H. Cleckley and R. Hare.)

So there you have it. In Cindy's own words, "Casey is a sociopath!" Are you proud now , George?
 

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Got this from The World According's post:
* Criminal or Entrepreneurial Versatility
Changes their image as needed to avoid prosecution. Changes life story readily.

Member the 12 pics that LE showed the guy at Sawgrass? Poot---I would love to know more about them 12 pics.
 
Your statement just reminded me of my friends daughter who has been diagnosed with autism and also diagnosed with sociopathic tendencies. She has been under a doctors care since she was 4 and is now 24. Her main focus is texting and the computer to communicate. To look at her she is beautiful and appears "normal" until you have an in depth conversation with her. When she doesn't get her way she throws temper tantrums like the face of Casey on the jail house video while hitting her hands together. This can be triggered by something as simple as her phone not working or her mom not agreeing with what she said. She is able to keep up with current events but also doesn't have a problem with doing inappropriate things in front of people weather she knows them or not. Like Casey , her illness makes her hyper sexual and while a teenager ran up $5,000 worth of sex line phone calls. When she is caught in a lie or having inappropriate behavior, she can't understand what the big deal is. She can not grasp the thought of consequence, shame, or any other feeling. Truly, the only thing she cares about is instant gratification and her comfort. No compassion for others, even her own family. The reason I bring this up is that I feel something noteworthy is missing from the A's. A girl like Casey doesn't just happen, there has to be an underlying condition or pattern of behavior that we haven't been able to put our finger on just yet. I don't believe for one minute of CA's description of a typical family life. I am not trying to make excuses for the murderer of Caylee but trying to understand her and her families behavior and the lack of family consequence for the death of Caylee. Thank you for everyones insightful input. I love reading here!:)

KC's a sociopath. CA is a borderline personality disorder. Easy one!
 
They are both (mom and daughter) sociopaths imo. Check this out: Profile of the Sociopath




* Glibness and Superficial Charm (Her interview with Le and FBI the day of her arrest for MURDER!)

* Manipulative and Conning
They never recognize the rights of others and see their self-serving behaviors as permissible. They appear to be charming, yet are covertly hostile and domineering, seeing their victim as merely an instrument to be used. They may dominate and humiliate their victims.

* Grandiose Sense of Self
Feels entitled to certain things as "their right."

* Pathological Lying
Has no problem lying coolly and easily and it is almost impossible for them to be truthful on a consistent basis. Can create, and get caught up in, a complex belief about their own powers and abilities. Extremely convincing and even able to pass lie detector tests.
(Yuri mentioned that she never once showed any sign of concern or cried for her "missing" baby. she took them to her imaginary office walking them down the hall "with a purpose".)
* Lack of Remorse, Shame or Guilt
A deep seated rage, which is split off and repressed, is at their core. Does not see others around them as people, but only as targets and opportunities. Instead of friends, they have victims and accomplices who end up as victims. The end always justifies the means and they let nothing stand in their way.
(She admitted in a jaihouse visit with mom and pop she had not cried once since she had been jailed.)
* Shallow Emotions
When they show what seems to be warmth, joy, love and compassion it is more feigned than experienced and serves an ulterior motive. Outraged by insignificant matters, yet remaining unmoved and cold by what would upset a normal person. Since they are not genuine, neither are their promises.

* Incapacity for Love (Obviously she did not love Grampa, to steal from his nursing home account. she didn't love Jesse, she didn't love Amy and clearly she did not love her parents or the baby.)

* Need for Stimulation
Living on the edge. Verbal outbursts and physical punishments are normal. Promiscuity and gambling are common.

* Callousness/Lack of Empathy
Unable to empathize with the pain of their victims, having only contempt for others' feelings of distress and readily taking advantage of them.( When George and Cindy were telling her how hard it has been, that they are getting hate mail , brother has been sick, dad exploded at the media, she shows zero concern and just talks over a weeping Cindy to tell how she has only received supportive letters. The cold way she ignores them in the courtroom is textbook. She enjoys hurting them.)

* Poor Behavioral Controls/Impulsive Nature
Rage and abuse, alternating with small expressions of love and approval produce an addictive cycle for abuser and abused, as well as creating hopelessness in the victim. Believe they are all-powerful, all-knowing, entitled to every wish, no sense of personal boundaries, no concern for their impact on others.

* Early Behavior Problems/Juvenile Delinquency
Usually has a history of behavioral and academic difficulties, yet "gets by" by conning others. Problems in making and keeping friends; aberrant behaviors such as cruelty to people or animals, stealing, etc. (Casey)

* Irresponsibility/Unreliability
Not concerned about wrecking others' lives and dreams. Oblivious or indifferent to the devastation they cause. Does not accept blame themselves, but blames others, even for acts they obviously committed. (Amy, Jesse, et al)

* Promiscuous Sexual Behavior/Infidelity
Promiscuity, child sexual abuse, rape and sexual acting out of all sorts.

* Lack of Realistic Life Plan/Parasitic Lifestyle (Casey)
Tends to move around a lot or makes all encompassing promises for the future, poor work ethic but exploits others effectively.

* Criminal or Entrepreneurial Versatility
Changes their image as needed to avoid prosecution. Changes life story readily.

Other Related Qualities:
UNABLE TO FEEL remorse or guilt
Extreme narcissism and grandiose[/u][/b]
May state readily that their goal is to rule the world


(The above traits are based on the psychopathy checklists of H. Cleckley and R. Hare.)

So there you have it. In Cindy's own words, "Casey is a sociopath!"

Only true words Cindy ever spoke!
 
I know the interview your talking about I just wanted to stuff a sock in her mouth she goes on and on and on about herself......she truly is a piece of work...

I remember that, "Do you want me to faint? I haven't slept for three days. Do you want me to pass out, right here.?"

He77, yes, Cyn! Then, you'd at least STFU!
 
Outraged by insignificant matters, yet remaining unmoved and cold by what would upset a normal person.

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Thanks for the post. I found this part rather interesting..
KC only showed real emotion a couple of times and it was always about the most insignificant things. It was always in that rare upward inflection in her voice.

When the detectives were questioning her at Universal, Sgt. Allen basically mocked her for her pretend desk and job, and she swung back with, "I used to have a desk!"

The other memorable incident was when cindy asked KC who her stylist was, and i will have to paraphrase but she yelled, "I don't know where they got that but it's BS!! No one has touched my hair since before... yada yada yada!"

She shows more emotion over useless things than her own daughter. Gosh I hate her so much. :banghead:
 
ITA It's just a nicer term for just what it is - It's a LIE! Just like the term "little white lie" makes it seems like a harmless lie-it's a lie also. Lying is not a crime if you tell someone what they made for dinner was good when you can barely swallow it. Lying is a crime if you tell LE you heard your "missing" daughter on the phone talking about "books and shoes" when you know she's laying like trash in a dumping gound!:furious:

CA also uses the word, "half-truths," What half is TRUE? :(
 
Yep, revenge is bittersweet. I hope someone locks them in a padded room and let them all duke it out and no one walks away unscathed. Better yet, put them all on WWE in a cage match. This time no one writes a script on how it ends and who wins. Just let'em at each other.

Everybody in one room. Last one standing is shot. :eek:;-)
 
I remember that, "Do you want me to faint? I haven't slept for three days. Do you want me to pass out, right here.?"

He77, yes, Cyn! Then, you'd at least STFU!

I know, right? I was tossing and turning for nights worrying about poor little exhausted cindy. How dare Greta even think about asking her stupid questions when CINDY is suffering. Not Caylee, but cindy.

Lord help me for the hate I have for this family. I hope they spend the rest of their days suffering only to rot in the depths of hell.

!@#^@*&$^*@&$ I've gotta take a break for now ...
 
I remember that, "Do you want me to faint? I haven't slept for three days. Do you want me to pass out, right here.?"

He77, yes, Cyn! Then, you'd at least STFU
!

:rocker:I'll second that!!:rocker:
 
:floorlaugh:Somebody call Vince McMahon!:floorlaugh:
I'll rent that pay-per-view!!

The Milsteads and/or the As can 't wire and sell anything.

There already IS a Lewis Carroll.
 
Just as KC didn't come out of the box this monster that we see before us-neither did CA! I'm not making excuses for either of them-but I sure would love to know more about the Ohio years!:waitasec:

But, some people DO come out of the box monsters. There's als a lot of heredity.
 
Originally Posted by Hollys G-mom
Boldened by me: I so totally agree with you. I've said it from the beginning. The Anthony's act like a family who has been AWARE & hiding a BIG secret, most often being Incest. Like it or not...it is very possible. Part of what makes these types of abuse victims so damaged is being forced to lead a double life. Reality vs. Appearances. In drastic cases it even has the ability to form BPD (Borderline Personality Disorder- much like Scitzophrenea only the "personalities" all know about on another and the victim never has black-outs or loses time) and scitzo-affective disorders. I come from just this type of upbringing. The reality of being sexually abused by a parent first, then a sibling after is almost unbearable and hard to make peace with. Then to have to live a lie daily for YEARS....we'll it will make you crazy. Like it or not. That is what we are all talking about her folks. Cindy & George's behaviours and denials are what has made KC a monster. My personal verdict is that she is insane. The reason I believe so...it would take a mother being insane to do to Caylee what has been done to her. Maybe KC truely WAS raised not to know right from wrong. If her role models acted in these ways, how can we expect any different from her? JMHO


In response to the part you bolded...

The 11 mothers on death row, convicted of killing their children, will be happy to know they shouldn't be held responsible for their actions because their behavior was beyond their control. John Couey and Joseph Duncan had to have been insane to do what they did also.

IMO, Casey isn't any different than the other members of the elite club she is about to join. I think personality disorders and dysfunctional families are the norm there.

JMO




 
everybody in one room. Last one standing is shot. :eek:;-)
I'm Afraid they would enjoy it! Heck they lived in that house together and that didn't help eliminate anyone, or did it???? (I'm sorry) As far back to the 70's locked down ice baths were used in impatient psych. units, like the state facilities. Having adapted to the Florida heat those ice baths would make them squeel a truth.
 
For a bit W/S members could call the play by play moments of, "Whose court the ball is in" After the last court date concerning autopsy ruling I'm thinlkng ball is in the "Peoples Court "of opinion and prosecution??? If a pattern remains we should be hearing from the A camp. I feel with all the new news on the airwaves CA may be feeling a bit indignant that her voice has been overshadowed. As much as I would like to assume the A's are purposely staying less vocal in order to heal I bet they are frustrated to be put on the back burner of sensational news stories.
If you get a chance take a look at the foundation's website. There's a lot of CA's feeling of persecution interspersed with the message of giving in Caylee's name.
 
casey photobucket image.jpg

I want to know what you think of this little gem on her photobucket account. It is impossible that someone other than she just so happened to put a heart over the tape on the baby's mouth.

I know Yuri has caught this. She is going down.
 
I remember that, "Do you want me to faint? I haven't slept for three days. Do you want me to pass out, right here.?"

He77, yes, Cyn! Then, you'd at least STFU!

Funny you should mention that. My earliest memory of Cindy was when I first got into the case. Cindy was interviewed on NG after KC was arrested the first time and she told NG to "take it easy on me. I haven't slept for days... I haven't eaten...I'm so upset...blah, blah, blah..." This was before NG said a word to her. I remember thinking how odd that was at the time. If she was so upset and hadn't slept for days WTF was she doing giving interviews on TV?! That's when my hinky meter started going off big time about her. It was shortly after that she came out with the "pizza in the trunk" ridiculousness. When KC gets convicted (notice I said when) and the trial goes to the penalty phase, the A's don't stand a snowball's chance of garnering sympathy. They've done nothing but turn public sentiment against them.
 
If you get a chance take a look at the foundation's website. There's a lot of CA's feeling of persecution interspersed with the message of giving in Caylee's name.

Can you please put the URL on here for me? Please? Thanks!
 
ITA! CA's attitude about the JG incident was even more misplaced considering that her daughter was close to 20 years old. She shouldn't necessarily approach it the same way as she would a virginal 15 year old in bed with some dude. She called KC some nasty names and got on JG's butt when she was done with KC.
CA reacted as if she were violated (violated.....again- KC's pregnancy was a total violation). She was angry, but not about perceived hanky panky...she was angry that KC was in her home, not really working a full-time gig, not seeking to move out, never went to college, now there's a grand-kid, and some guy on her furniture probably picking out of her fridge, AND SHE WAS OVER IT!
Problem is, as has been posted here, CA did not have the love and guts to tell KC to grow up. She just continued to enable KC and harbor the resentment

As you stated above, they created KC and were too ashamed/lazy/selfish to confront it-Now they have to.

Bold is mine.

No they don't- they just gotta keep pretending to be in "denial". Do you know how many people they have fooled? LE is on the list, obviously..
 
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