Casey's Diary Entry for June 21st & Missing Pages #1

[lin]

I am watching about the diary on headline news and for the life of me, I just can't imagine a 16 year old writing that in there. I know KC was addicted to the computer, but it was still CA's computer that she was writing in and she wouldn't want anyone to see what she was writing there. I don't think of it as a diary, rather a journal and I kept 3 of them when I left my ex-husband who was abusive. I didn't want to talk about the pain I went through to others yet it was very therapuedic to use a journal. I would be curious to know where it was found at the house. I do think KC thought they would never find Caylee and as each day passed that she wasn't found, her confidence grew. I think she assumed that LE was done searching the house but what would be more interesting to me is where she kept it.

Thank you for sharing that very personal and I'm sure, painful, experience. Most of us need to tell but sometimes feel we can't when the topic is too painful; too embarrassing; or, in KC's case, too incriminating.

Many therapists recommend journaling to help sort one's thoughts and feelings without bringing anyone else into the situation.

 

[Suzie002]

I think that the writing on the police report is different because they state, "Please print clearly." The writing in the journal would be considered script to KC.

On JVM tonight, they posted the diary in a very large picture. I have worked in a company of 150 employees and had an uncanny knack to match handwriting to all employees. I narrowed it down first by noticing if it was written by a male or female. I know it sounds crazy, but I was very good at this and still am to this day. When I seen the '03 large on the tv screen, I could tell that it was a man's handwriting. I believe that was written by someone other than KC.

Please look at her letters. They are very feminine and "loopy" as I call it. The number 3 in the '03 is not. It's hard like a man's writing. Her numbers would have been larger and more rounded and feminine. I know you will think I am nuts but I really don't think that part was written by KC.

 

[Reality Orlando]

Just because you disagree doesn't make WESH wrong, either.

There is no "evidence" to prove one way or another of which I'm aware. Please point me in the right direction to find it. Until I see that evidence you mentioned, I'll continue to think, as I suggested in my post, that '03 may refer to her planned graduation year, or as several other posters suggested, that she was re-using a book.

I have to agree with the posters who seem to believe the fact that LE took time to photo this page, of all the pages in her room, and include it in discovery means they believe it has significance. Just because they haven't made it clear yet why they believe that, doesn't give me reason to doubt their professionalism.

But that's my opinion and you're certainly equally entitled to yours.

Casey was slated to graduate in 2004, '04. In '03 she was a junior at Colonial HS. Even the reporter back tracked once he saw the '03 and they definitely changed subject quickly. Later in the footage, you can see the first reporter on the phone and clearly hear him trying to track down the info regarding the '03 on the page. I think it totally caught them off guard and I've yet to see/hear one legitimate claim that it's a recent entry.

 

[lin]

What frustrates me is that the SA's office knows all the answers to all these questions, we can speculate till the cows come home. I wish we knew what this diary entry means and do they know was it in 2008 or 2003?

I agree; like with some of the other things released today, we won't be able to come to a definitive answer without more info.

But I did hear the SA has about 20 more disks to release...

And that's on top of the 1100 pages we're expecting any day now.

 

[JWG]

Casey was slated to graduate in 2004, '04. In '03 she was a junior at Colonial HS. Even the reporter back tracked once he saw the '03 and they definitely changed subject quickly. Later in the footage, you can see the first reporter on the phone and clearly hear him trying to track down the info regarding the '03 on the page. I think it totally caught them off guard and I've yet to see/hear one legitimate claim that it's a recent entry.

Is the Colonial High 2003 yearbook online anywhere and if so, is there a class slogan listed anywhere?

 

[Rumpole]

This doesn't really help me see the difference. The diary entry is in cursive, and the report is printed. I do see similar strokes (C's and H's) but since one is printed and the other one is written...I really can't compare them.

First page of new diary, on the first day of a new life. You are going to take pains to write in your best "copper-plate" style.

 

[lin]

Just a few more thoughts (my prior post focused on how it makes sense that the diary entry would have been written in 2008).

The entry says it is June 21. Seems like the very day that Casey would have finally breathed a huge sigh of relief. Just a few days before (June 18), she had borrowed a shovel from her neighbor and backed the car up into the garage. She probably buried Casey on the 18th. Phew! That’s a big thing over with! So now we’re at June 21 and so far, so good! Nobody knocking at the door and looks like nobody saw her ditch Caylee. It’s three days later and it looks like the coast is clear. June 21 - Casey is hanging out at a club, photographed with a bunch of new friends, smiling and looking pretty in her royal blue dress. She probably wrote that entry when she got home and was tucked in her bed after a great night out. Of course, she probably became alarmed the next day or the next about the smell of poor Caylee’s body remaining in Casey’s car and growing worse. Didn’t count on that! By the 27th, she finally ditched the car not knowing what to do with it at that point. I wonder what the diary entries (if any) look like between June 18 and 27th.

BTW – this bit about hoping that the “end justified the means” probably reflects Casey’s BS excuse for killing Caylee – the “end” being getting Caylee away from Cindy and George who might get custody (those “evil” people according to Casey) and “the means” being murder. I wonder if Casey (however lazily) inquired about a private adoption plan. She might have asked around and found out that if she tried to privately place Casey with a third party, Cindy and George might have asserted grandparental rights since they all lived in the house together and Cindy and George had helped care for Casey. Not saying that would have prevented Casey from placing Casey with a third party; just that it would have complicated things and surely Cindy and George would have tried to prevent it. (Not that Casey bothered to actually inquire about adoption, though it saddens me she didn’t. Everyone on here would have gladly taken in this dear child).

Excellent reasoning; deserved to be repeated.

PS: Didn't even notice it was your post again, NJLawyer! Please post more! You're on a great roll today, imo.

 

[Chezhire]

SNIPPED: "...Look, it would be the icing on the cake if this diary was from June 21, 2008 and written by casey. But, we don't need it. I think we have more than enough to win a conviction. casey's actions speak for themselves, as well as decomp smell, internet searches for cholorform, missing kids and neck breaking, significant traces of cholorofrom found in the trunk with evidence of decomp, a fictional nanny-abductor who no one has ever met created by a "mother" who does not seem in the least perturbed by the disappearance of her daughter, a tiny, dead body found yards from the suspect's home, with duct tape around her mouth and a heart sticker on that, which seems to have been placed there about a month before Caylee was reported missing and about a month before casey reports a call from her daughter, said call found to never have taken place, a suspect who coincidentally seems to love heart stickers and heart icons, a family in turmoil, a jealousy issue between suspect and grandmother, a young defendant who feels her life has been limited by the existence of her child, and a mother who not only fails to ever report her child missing, but who actively lies to family and friends about her whereabouts and who then lies to investigators who are trying to find her baby. Really, what more do we need?

Bolded emphasis added by me.
You and I are on the same page on the analysis of the state's case against Casey.

 

[lin]

I think that this diary was from 2003 and her writing was probably nicer then because she wasnt stressed out - writing her statement - after disposing of Caylee

I agree that she wasn't under police supervision with the whole 'jig is up' feeling when she wrote this but I still read it as relief after disposing of Caylee.

 

[Chezhire]

SNIPPED: "... I hope LE/prosecution have evidence to prove otherwise, if they plan on using this...."

They won't bother with it as evidence at trial unless (1) they have such proof, or (2) Casey's attorney actually allows her to testify, which I highly doubt will happen. If she did testify, then a few questions about it, even without obtaining some prior proof it was written in 2008, would be a worthwhile fishing expedition...that could, depending upon her responses and demeanor when giving them, help lead to the state obtaining a conviction.

 

[ThoughtElf]

Okay the writing is up and down in the Statement and in the journal entry it is slanted to the right

The letters are different

IMO different person

Apples & oranges.

Statement is printed. Diary entry is written in cursive.

Many people do not have a slant in printed words, but will in written samples.

 

[Where's Andre]

I do not see why someone would write the year on another page then the entry of June 21. If she would do that for every entry it would mean there could be all sorts of entries from different years at random pages.

That is why I think Casey made the note 'every day is a brand new beginning' in (for example) her school diary and that being the reason why she put up the year on top of the page where she imo repeated it years later.

Looking at what she wrote to Cindy (diary of days) she seemed to have made notes of certain things (for example that were said in movies) to use it later whether in writing or talking.

She also underlined the '03, there would be no need for that since she would know exactly what year it was when she wrote the June 21 entry, so imo the page on the left is her repeating something she noted back in 2003 and repeated it with this entry and added the year. IMO

Applying a little 'Out of the box' thinking...

The '03 is on the reverse side of the journal. What if she wrote on one side of the pages from front to back, and then reversed when she got to the end of the journal? I know I usually on write on one side of a notebook until I run out of space, and then I start writing in the oposite direction.

 

[Chezhire]

shes been known to fake emails so shes capable of putting a fake date on the dairy as well.

let us not forget the fake/incorrectly alligned name and telephone entries in her cell phone that, when dialed, called totally different ppl.

 

[lin]

The journal page entry w which the State chose to fuel the media frenzy and further inflame the public this time is simply **advertiser censored* date (any date beyond the 15th will do... ) during the month of **advertiser censored* June (nevermind it appears to be the June five years prior...). Every year has a June, and most diaries from any given year will also likely include this month... Are we to believe there were five years of pages removed...?

Never have I seen a worse case of the State trying, quite so obviously and vigorously, to use a rabid media to demonize a defendant. The bottom line is people who want KC stoned to death for the worst imaginable heinous coldblooded killing are determined, irrespective of fact, to interpret each new piece of info and shred of evidence in the most grotesque, gruesome, grisly and sinister light possible, projecting onto it every conceivable evil connotation. A lynchmob and witchhunt all rolled into one. I'll defer judgment until trial when we hear from an ink expert w test results. No one can any longer lend a voice of reason to "Caylee" threads anyway, so great is the thirst for blood. JMO

arrot:

So, um, kiki the parrot, please do tell us what you really think...

What you see as a "thirst for blood" I see as a "quest for truth." Isn't it funny how two people can read the same things and get something totally different out of them?

 

[Chezhire]

Okay the writing is up and down in the Statement and in the journal entry it is slanted to the right

The letters are different

IMO different person

I find the small e's to look similar enough to give me pause. Casey could have purposely written her statement to LE in print, rather than her cursive, for a whole lot of reasons...

 

[Where's Andre]

Speaking of the reverse side of the paper... Does anyone else see a drawing that looks like a cat bleeding through the writing on the right hand page?

I thought it was a watermark at first, but now it looks like a drawing. Maybe she did indeed doodle on the left hand pages. The '03 still might be explained in other ways. Funny how random things that people do like doodles can be misinterperated.

 

[lin]

On June 20th, we have her partying at Fusion late into the night. The pings on the 21st per this info in the stickies. JWG posts this investigative info



TELL ME.. HOW DOES SHE GET BACK TO THE HOUSE ON A SATURDAY JUNE 21st , CINDY'S DAY OFF... write this information down and leave????

Do we have records for GA or CA to see if they were home all day that Saturday?

As a juror, I would discern this to be a RED HERRING... based upon the ping records. Oh.. how easily we fall for media reports after we have already sleuthed this one out. This is NOTHING. The duct tape and red heart is the nail in the coffin.

Perhaps she had it with her? Perhaps it was returned to the home from the car when it was being cleaned or by Lee? Perhaps no one thought to look for it until whenever it was LE found it? Perhaps it was an accidental find when they were looking for something else?

Another poster wrote the book was in her bedside table. Pretty odd place to keep something you haven't used since 2003, imo.

 

[lin]

Just to pile on a little more speculation...

KC knew she had that old journal lying around somewhere in her room, and on one of her stops between the 16th and 21st picked it up and brought it back to AL's. As she is flipping through it she is drawn to her opening page: EVERY DAY IS A NEW BEGINNING.

"Damn straight", she thinks, and decides to write briefly about her new beginning. She tears out the pages discussing her "old" life, and writes a one-page memo to self about her new-found freedom.

:clap::clap::clap:

Completely logical.

 

[lin]

Yes, the prosecution will have to prove that
1. Casey wrote this (easy enough to do with handwriting analysis, if it is in her hand)
2. It was actually written after her child was killed

I'm not seeing proof of either given just this page.

I agree. And that's why I don't understand why some are so quick to dismiss it as irrelevant. We can't know for sure the relevance until those things are shown.

 

[costalpilot]

Betcha LE has a receipt for that lil' diary to prove it was purchased in 2008

THEY can check with the manufacturer....the two years books would be different