Casey's Diary Entry for June 21st & Missing Pages #1

[JaneInOz]

Crop her signature more so we can see it better, but it looks like the same "jacks"-type letters that she wrote Every Day is A New Day style in. I think even the small a and s are the same, but it's hard to tell that small...

Your wish is my command lol


IMO the Carpe Diem stuff is from 2003 and so is this pic of just her name
found on inside cover of Scrapboook stuff folder

Now one of two things happened in my opinion

She changed her writing style in 5 years

OR The JUNE 21 is NOT Casey's writing AT ALL

And the red of the writing on the left looks diff to the red on the right IMO

Look at the Casey Anthony of the name on the folder and the Casey anthony in the statment - same except for the DOTS

Same up and down


IMHO someone else wrote this June 21 stuff

 

[LinasK]

Your wish is my command lol


IMO the Carpe Diem stuff is from 2003 and so is this pic of just her name
found on inside cover of Scrapboook stuff folder

Now one of two things happened in my opinion

She changed her writing style in 5 years

OR The JUNE 21 is NOT Casey's writing AT ALL

And the red of the writing on the left looks diff to the red on the right IMO

Look at the Casey Anthony of the name on the folder and the Casey anthony in the statment - same except for the DOTS

Same up and down


IMHO someone else wrote this June 21 stuff

I agree with you up to a point, where I differ is that I think it's more likely that she changed her style of writing 5 years later, rather than being a different writer, because the police statement looks like a similar writer to the writer of the June 21st entry.

 

[suspicious1]

HP-That's what I was going to say.:clap:
The '03 is irrelevent. An old journal. She ripped out the "silly" pages previously written 5 years earlier, and began journaling again. Maybe the first entry on June 21 (2008) reminds you of bullet points because KC was simply trying to work out a new style of journaling/writting...who knows. It's illogical to believe this entry is not relevent to the case. It wouldn't have been photographed and considered eviedence if it wasn't. Right?

Exactly!:clap:

 

[my_tee_mouse]

I agree!


Exactly-- and we don't need any more of that !:crazy:

My opinion:
Of course Casey wrote it. I think she wrote it in 2008. Maybe she didn't. But if she didn't write it in 2008, she may as well have. Everything she did and didn't do post June 16 is consistent with the spirit of this entry. While it does shock the conscience to read these words in light of what had happened to Caylee, it doesn't shock my mind in the LEAST. This is Casey Anthony we're talking about.

We can't effectively analyze the ink or paper from our computer screens. Everyone has probably written with a red pen at some point-- two red pen samples don't really mean anything from a visual perspective. Also, pens are like lighters and 20$ bills, they move around.

LE can effectively analyze this diary and date the paper and ink. They can also pick up the latent etchings from the entries she made on the pages preceding this entry. They're on top of it.

The only thing I think we can do from our computers is to locate the actual diary she is using. If that diary is located and proven to be something that was created and marketed from 2008-on, then we have some conclusive proof.

Bolded by me.

I've been trying to do just that. So far, no luck.

With regard to the handwriting examples above...one is printed, one is cursive, but in both cases the "I" is made as just one straight line...no cursive I, no "bar" across the top and bottom of the printed one...just a straight vertical line. That seems to be indicative of one person's style of writing.

 

[Egoslayer]

There were lots of things like beer bottles trash etc that are not relevant to the case. There is no reason at this point to be sure of when this entry was written. Just because it was photographed doesn't mean it was written in 2008.

The handwriting does not look similar but the writing style (sentence structure) is imo ... :twocents:

 

[jaimie43]

Forgive me if this has been discussed...Regarding the 03 in the corner..it made me think of something. When I used to have a diary I wrote some entrys and later tore those pages out. Is it possible that she wrote the o3 on the cover, wrote some stuff that didnt matter a long time ago, tore those pages out (to express her brand new life) and started over with the pages we see now?

 

[jaimie43]

Forgive me if this has been discussed...Regarding the 03 in the corner..it made me think of something. When I used to have a diary I wrote some entrys and later tore those pages out. Is it possible that she wrote the o3 on the cover, wrote some stuff that didnt matter a long time ago, tore those pages out (to express her brand new life) and started over with the pages we see now?

Ok...I see you guys have discussed something similar!

 

[Steely Dan]

Not sure if your question has been answered, so my apologies if it has.
Yes, Casey got JB's phone number from another inmate after being booked into the OC jail. The local reporters have stated that as well.

She certainly didn't find him on a best lawyers web site.

Two things strike me as strange about the June 21 diary entry:

Usually when someone writes in a diary they don't leave out things unless they think someone else might read it.

What I mean by this is: Why isn't she saying exactly what transpired that she thought was "the right decision"?

IMO a "normal" person would write something along these lines, "Dear diary, today I told my John to take a very long walk off a short pier. It was hard for me to do this but, I'm glad I did....."


The second thing I find strange is: Why write in red? Sorry to all you red lovers out there. But, who writes in red? What does that color signify? Love? Sex? Anger?

This is a grown woman with a child and she's writing in red?

Just strikes me as odd. Perhaps because I am a teacher and I used red to mark my students' assignments....

I think it marks childishness.

As another poster mentioned, how do you prove a person "Doesn't Exist"?

If the law required that the prosecution "Disprove" the existence of a person in order to get a conviction then every murderer in the country would be saying......"It wasn't me.....The Boogie man did it"


BOLDED BY BOSTON

I think they will try to prove that nobody in her life had ever met Xanny.

I don't understand all this "the handwriting is different!" talk.

For what it's worth, my own handwriting varies a LOT within a 24 hour period. Sometimes it actually looks a lot like Casey's. Sometimes it looks really masculine and almost illegible. Sometimes it looks just like my mom's. If you took samples of my writing at random intervals for 24 hours, it could look like I was at least five different people. (and no, I'm not a serial killer) :crazy:

That's not what Cap'n Crunch says! :tongue:

If the '03 is written in the same ink as the words below it and on the opposite page then, IMO, that shows they were all written at the same time. I don't about others here but I couldn't find a pen in my place that I used five years ago.

The water mark, paper, style of cover and other things that make the journal book unique may be a way for LE to track down the year it was made. The pen ink may supply clues too. Also, if it is in fact from 2008 then the defense is going to have to prove that something happened in late June of '03 that fits with the entry.

 

[JaneInOz]

I don't think the June 21 entry is Casey's hand writing IMO
Take the 2 in the police statment and the 2 in the June 21 different

Take the J in the Statement and the Journal/Diary entry different

 

[Rumpole]

I don't think the June 21 entry is Casey's hand writing IMO
Take the 2 in the police statment and the 2 in the June 21 different

Take the J in the Statement and the Journal/Diary entry different

Then who wrote it?
Why?
When?

A conspiracy is surely not likely?

 

[whiteangora]

She certainly didn't find him on a best lawyers web site.



I think it marks childishness.



I think they will try to prove that nobody in her life had ever met Xanny.




That's not what Cap'n Crunch says! :tongue:

If the '03 is written in the same ink as the words below it and on the opposite page then, IMO, that shows they were all written at the same time. I don't about others here but I couldn't find a pen in my place that I used five years ago.

The water mark, paper, style of cover and other things that make the journal book unique may be a way for LE to track down the year it was made. The pen ink may supply clues too. Also, if it is in fact from 2008 then the defense is going to have to prove that something happened in late June of '03 that fits with the entry.

I'm sticking with my original feelings, she wrote that stuff in '03.
It has no significance what so ever.
:couch:

 

[JaneInOz]

Then who wrote it?
Why?
When?

A conspiracy is surely not likely?

I have a small part that thinks it may have been written by someone else - female - that they know Casey is guilty and are trying to push it

But 75% percent of me thinks it was all written in 03 and its just been photographed (like the pots at the death scene)

 

[Rumpole]

I have a small part that thinks it may have been written by someone else - female - that they know Casey is guilty and are trying to push it

But 75% percent of me thinks it was all written in 03 and its just been photographed (like the pots at the death scene)

Conspiracy theories are not good cans of worms to open.
The annoying thing is that a few seconds with the actual diary and anybody could probably tell what all the answers are? In which case LE know, yet they still released that photo. Could be just to give JB something to think about, or maybe Yuri has a sense of humour and did it just for WS?

 

[Cerenity2u]

There is nothing in the documents that lead me to believe the diary entry was made in June of 08'. I believe the entry was made in 03', by a then 17 year old Casey. The contents of the entry could pertain to almost anything that may have been going on in her life at that time. At the age of 17, I'm sure she had many decisions to make...especially socially. What 17 year old doesn't? Unless we know any details about her life in 2003, there is no way to even speculate what this diary entry pertains to. Although my curiosity is up and I would LOVE to know...LOL JMHO

 

[ibyoungr]

She did not write that on the 21st in 2008. Unless they can prove it with ink analysis.

She was not in the house that day. Ping records. She did pick it up and take it with and make 1 journal entry? Return it to the drawer and say.. gosh I hope they do not find this? Yet she can hide a dead baby in the trees?

The handwriting style on the left side was a "popular" way to write text to be "decorative" about five years ago. My daughter is a little older than Casey and did this very same thing in her journals.. She also tore out pages and she would start to write something mess up and tear out the page. It appears she worked hard to have very neat handwriting on the right hand page. This change is important about THE CHANGE IN FRIENDS.

Cindy stated in a video that the cops did not pick up Casey's bag at TL's they questioned him at the apartment. Lee went over and picked it up. Cindy stated in a video, that she dumped the contents out in front of the police and they did not take any items, they did not come back and get them until the first evidence sweep, and she gave them the items in the bag(clothing) no book There is no mention that they picked it up during the first evidence sweep of the home if it was in the bag. Cindy would have read it and trashed it. Why would she write something to incremenant her daughter if she is SO IN DENIAL?

The key to the journal is to find out when she "changed friends". In 2007, she was no longer close friends with Lauren, Annie and switched to Amy, Ric... who did she start dating June 2007? Seems like men usually make her happy but yet pensive about what the future holds.

Kiomarie spoke of how they were BFF in jr high.. But did they stop being BFF in high school?

Ends to justify the means.... I knew you were going to ask. Often times young ladies who use people will realize that changing or dumping one group of friends for another because the OLD friends are starting to catch on to the lies. In the end, giving up one set of friends to start ripping off the new set.. justifies dropping the old set of friends.

 

[Leila]

Everyone here has done a great job in analyzing the diary page! :clap:

I want to add that this afternoon CNN did a brief interview with a forensic document expert by the name of John Osborne. I made a few notes. He said that the burden of proof that this diary entry was written in 2008 is on the prosecution. He said that the entire journal would have to be examined forensically to determine the chronological period, along with ink-dating, both visual and chemical analysis.

IMO, I don't think OCSO would open themselves to ridicule by submitting this diary page as a piece of evidence without proof that it was written in 2008. JB has already dismissed it as "written in 2003 before Caylee was even born." I suspect (hope) that there's more to it and investigators have already verified it was written in 2008.

 

[Djane]

Conspiracy theories are not good cans of worms to open.
The annoying thing is that a few seconds with the actual diary and anybody could probably tell what all the answers are? In which case LE know, yet they still released that photo. Could be just to give JB something to think about, or maybe Yuri has a sense of humour and did it just for WS?

So far this is the most logical explanation I’ve heard!
I believe this diary is from ‘03. I doesn’t look like pages were torn out, it looks like glue holding the cover page to the rest of the book. If you look closely at that and the outside cover, it looks pretty crisp too, doesn’t look worn at all. I’d bet that is the only entry she ever made in that book. Then she stuffed it in a drawer where it blended with the rest of her crap & she forgot about it. (I have a teen girl, I know this is how it works, LOL)
If she did write this in ‘08 I can’t imagine why she would leave it laying around to be found. There would have been plenty of time to dispose of it when she was out on bond. If CA knew about it, she would have either: a) turned it over to LE immediately or b) disposed of it immediately. IMO, this diary was written in 03 and means absolutely nothing.

 

[Rumpole]

So far this is the most logical explanation I’ve heard!
I believe this diary is from ‘03. I doesn’t look like pages were torn out, it looks like glue holding the cover page to the rest of the book. If you look closely at that and the outside cover, it looks pretty crisp too, doesn’t look worn at all. I’d bet that is the only entry she ever made in that book. Then she stuffed it in a drawer where it blended with the rest of her crap & she forgot about it. (I have a teen girl, I know this is how it works, LOL)
If she did write this in ‘08 I can’t imagine why she would leave it laying around to be found. There would have been plenty of time to dispose of it when she was out on bond. If CA knew about it, she would have either: a) turned it over to LE immediately or b) disposed of it immediately. IMO, this diary was written in 03 and means absolutely nothing.

The major "evidence" factor is that we are looking at it.

LE have handled it they can answer most of the questions we have asked! They know! So why is it one of a select group of photos they chose to release? If it was something they photographed, but now realise is not relevant why show it? So perhaps you are right, my joke is the best explanation, or....... LE have looked at the rest of the pages and it is obviously recent?

 

[njustice]

Apologies if this has already been pointed out but I found a good link to a very englarged version of this diary (page one is the page with '03 on it and page two is the entry).

http://www.wftv.com/_blank/18740990/detail.html

First of all, it's pretty evident that a large chunk of the diary has been torn out in the middle. This signifies a couple of things to me.

One, it was much later that the entry was written than the page with '03 on it.

Two, it signifies to me that she is "starting a new page" in her life - she's torn out all of the old stuff - just like she deleted a bunch of photos as well. She is basically dumping (literally and figuratively) anything related to her old life while she makes a completely new life for herself.

Third - notice that the page with '03 looks like a Title page of sorts - like a lining page (title page of sorts) that you have at the beginning of a diary before you get to the actual entries. There are lines and a faint watermark type graphic design on the page with her entry - completely different type of page than the first page with the date on it. Often times people will write something significant with a date that kind of sets the theme or tone of the diary at the beginning. That's what I think we are seeing when we look at the page with the '03 on it.

The last thing is the writing - I'm sorry but this writing looks too mature/sophisticated for me to believe that it was written when she was still in high school. I'm just not buying it. I kept several diaries during my high school years and the writing definitely looks more childish than the way I write now.

It's possible KC kept the '03 in there as a means of deception. I think that writing that entry in her diary is a way for her to acknowledge out loud what has happened but is vague enough to be interpreted in various ways. I've written entries like that myself when I was concerned my mom was going to peek in my diary. It's a kind of veiled release, don't know how else to describe it. And as far as the ink goes, okay, so both pages are red. It's fairly easy to find red ink. It's not like it's a particular shade of purple or teal or something...

Finally, I don't see why it is so implausible that she could have written this entry on June 21 just because she was at AL's residence. She could have left this in the car and for all we know, CA might have taken it into the house with the other items and didn't think it would hold anything significant for LE. Further, we don't know that one of the people who visited KC when she was out of jail didn't return it to her. I simply don't think we have enough evidence to say that she couldn't have written this in June of '08.

 

[Oakley]

Your wish is my command lol


IMO the Carpe Diem stuff is from 2003 and so is this pic of just her name
found on inside cover of Scrapboook stuff folder

Now one of two things happened in my opinion

She changed her writing style in 5 years

OR The JUNE 21 is NOT Casey's writing AT ALL

And the red of the writing on the left looks diff to the red on the right IMO

Look at the Casey Anthony of the name on the folder and the Casey anthony in the statment - same except for the DOTS

Same up and down


IMHO someone else wrote this June 21 stuff

Interesting observation, Jane. Maybe the writing is different because on the June 21st diary entry she was feeling confident, relaxed, and good about herself and her future; conversely, when writing the police report she was stressed over being questioned about Caylee's absence and was nervous about writing the 'right' thing (that wouldn't come back to trip her up in the future.) Just curious, if Casey didn't write the June 21st diary entry, who else do you think might have?