Caylee Anthony 2 year old General Discussion #47

[liltigress]

liti- what motion to w/d are you referring to? Did I miss that?

The link was here a day or so ago, I have no idea which thread or post. Maybe someone else has it and can post it for us?

 

[MomofBoys]

I too was struck by Casey's phrasing with her father. "She's close. She's close" and "I want to be home for her birthday." Neither indicate that Caylee's even alive, and even the implication there would be hedgy.

I'm also fascinated by the dichotomy of the parents. I believe that both of them desperately want Caylee to be found alive, but are they doing good cop-bad cop or is George on a slightly different bent? Cindy goes in with nothing but "support" (to enable) her daughter, and George goes in prepared to ask her "tough questions." Now, the extent of that might have been "Oh, honey, have you found out where Caylee is today?" but the public front on it is interesting. It seems like George and Lee both give off a vibe of "Casey's unbelievable, but we have to be unified in hopes that Caylee is alive." Cindy is more along the lines of "Of course Caylee is with the imaginary babysitter! My daughter is a pathological liar, but I have no reason not to trust her!" The former seems realistic while the latter seems like pure denial. Cindy's media front with the whole "It's all coming together now!" line of commentary really frustrates me and cements my view of her in a wholly negatlve light.

And I know this seems obvious and heresay like, but my sister and her husband live in east Orlando and one of their best friends works for county LE. He told them that the pervasive belief within is that Caylee is dead. I was like "Well, what else is new?" but when I started really thinking about it, being on the other side of the media, we deal in speculation and interpretations and hear each others' views all day long. We have to go on what they tell us and what we can dig up on our own. Here is a LE official who believes it and might very well have hard physical evidence by now. It was just a bit jarring to me, even if it changes nothing. Poor Caylee.

 

[wallflower67]

If she buried Caley, I don't think she would have just laid her in the ground, she would have been wrapped in something, and probably put inside a large plastic bag. There's no way she would have just put her directly in the ground. If the body was moved, it would have most likely been inside something like a large plastic trash bag. Something could have leaked out, leaving a stain, and dirt from the bag would have fallen in the trunk. I hope nothing like that happened, and really can't imagine a mother digging up her child's body and moving it, but it could have happened like that.

That makes sense. I hadn't thought of the body being in a plastic bag...having never burried one....

 

[curiositycat]

OT: Morgan Freeman airlifted to hospital after serious car accident. He was at least conscious, but nothing further on his condition.

Yes, what is with that Movie??

 

[olive]

Thanks Olive, is that the same stalking that was on Geraldo last night? Geraldos' brother Craig I think? Or a completely different one?

Nope, appears to be same one. Man, I'm behind. I think I have breaking news and it's already a day old on here- lol:crazy:

 

[DianeB]

What is your interpretation of that, Diane, I went into a trance on purpose at that time, I must admit?

My first thought was that Casey stole the laundry detergent from the house during her stealth 'shopping' visit home to get the gas cans (what else did she take - Cindy's credit card? Food? Clothes?).

My second thought was that George had mentioned it in connection with the smell and the trunk, so maybe someone either intentionally employed it to try to kill the decomp smell (Casey or George?), or tried to use it for that purpose even though that's not why it was taken.

 

[Blink34]

The link was here a day or so ago, I have no idea which thread or post. Maybe someone else has it and can post it for us?

I posted it, but the w/d motion was by the PD originally assigned to her case, not Jose. To my knowledge, he has not moved to withdraw as counsel of record.

 

[TallCoolOne]

Thanks to all for answering my inquiries. Sorry to post and run, but this third shifter has gotta go get some shut eye, only two hours yesterday and the ole peepers are getting really heavy. Not to mention the coordination between brain and typing fingers is not a good thing right now.

I try to keep up, but between following too many cases and a stupid job that thinks they own me 10 hours a day I'm having one heck of a time keeping up with all of you.

~TCO~ Keeping the faith for Caylee. Hoping against hope.

 

[curiositycat]

I too was struck by Casey's phrasing with her father. "She's close. She's close" and "I want to be home for her birthday." Neither indicate that Caylee's even alive, and even the implication there would be hedgy.

I'm also fascinated by the dichotomy of the parents. I believe that both of them desperately want Caylee to be found alive, but are they doing good cop-bad cop or is George on a slightly different bent? Cindy goes in with nothing but "support" (to enable) her daughter, and George goes in prepared to ask her "tough questions." Now, the extent of that might have been "Oh, honey, have you found out where Caylee is today?" but the public front on it is interesting. It seems like George and Lee both give off a vibe of "Casey's unbelievable, but we have to be unified in hopes that Caylee is alive." Cindy is more along the lines of "Of course Caylee is with the imaginary babysitter! My daughter is a pathological liar, but I have no reason not to trust her!" The former seems realistic while the latter seems like pure denial. Cindy's media front with the whole "It's all coming together now!" line of commentary really frustrates me and cements my view of her in a wholly negatlve light.

And I know this seems obvious and heresay like, but my sister and her husband live in east Orlando and one of their best friends works for county LE. He told them that the pervasive belief within is that Caylee is dead. I was like "Well, what else is new?" but when I started really thinking about it, being on the other side of the media, we deal in speculation and interpretations and hear each others' views all day long. We have to go on what they tell us and what we can dig up on our own. Here is a LE official who believes it and might very well have hard physical evidence by now. It was just a bit jarring to me, even if it changes nothing. Poor Caylee.

Thanks for sharing the "insider" information. Welcome to WS!!

Poor Caylee is right. :furious:

 

[SuziQ]

At this link I believe there are some of the photos we saw yesterday.

http://www.local6.com/slideshow/news/16906248/detail.html

 

[Beagle1]

Newbie here. This site & all of you folks are amazing.
I just wanted to add that My husband has worked in Corrections for 19 years.
He said that Casey has NOTHING BUT TIME to write her supposed letter.

If she were on suicide watch, would her access to pens or pencils be limited?
Just curious...

 

[olive]

I'm also fascinated by the dichotomy of the parents. I believe that both of them desperately want Caylee to be found alive, but are they doing good cop-bad cop or is George on a slightly different bent? Cindy goes in with nothing but "support" (to enable) her daughter, and George goes in prepared to ask her "tough questions." Now, the extent of that might have been "Oh, honey, have you found out where Caylee is today?" but the public front on it is interesting. It seems like George and Lee both give off a vibe of "Casey's unbelievable, but we have to be unified in hopes that Caylee is alive." Cindy is more along the lines of "Of course Caylee is with the imaginary babysitter! My daughter is a pathological liar, but I have no reason not to trust her!" The former seems realistic while the latter seems like pure denial. Cindy's media front with the whole "It's all coming together now!" line of commentary really frustrates me and cements my view of her in a wholly negatlve light.

And I know this seems obvious and heresay like, but my sister and her husband live in east Orlando and one of their best friends works for county LE. He told them that the pervasive belief within is that Caylee is dead. I was like "Well, what else is new?" but when I started really thinking about it, being on the other side of the media, we deal in speculation and interpretations and hear each others' views all day long. We have to go on what they tell us and what we can dig up on our own. Here is a LE official who believes it and might very well have hard physical evidence by now. It was just a bit jarring to me, even if it changes nothing. Poor Caylee.

Good analysis of the parents. I hate to hear that Orlando LE already think she's deceased. Not a shocker, in the least, but I hate to hear it.

 

[Blink34]

My first thought was that Casey stole the laundry detergent from the house during her stealth 'shopping' visit home to get the gas cans (what else did she take - Cindy's credit card? Food? Clothes?).

My second thought was that George had mentioned it in connection with the smell and the trunk, so maybe someone either intentionally employed it to try to kill the decomp smell (Casey or George?), or tried to use it for that purpose even though that's not why it was taken.

Was he confirming it was taken from the house and then found in the car??

 

[liltigress]

I posted it, but the w/d motion was by the PD originally assigned to her case, not Jose. To my knowledge, he has not moved to withdraw as counsel of record.

Oh chit! Thanks for clearing that up. :blowkiss:

 

[MBS]

I may be wrong, but a defense lawyer can keep anything the client says secret due to attny/client privlege. In fac, I think they can be disbarred for not doing so.

However, if a letter exists, that would be evidence, and Jose wouldn't legally be able to withhold it

When my husband and I were in family court regarding custody of my step-son, our attny said if we had any evidence we knew his ex had to use against us, to be up front and let him know. But if we had any other evidence, he didn't want to see it or know about it.

We only had evidence against her, not us...but that was our attny's mentality. We could talk, but not show.

I believe a letter written by the client to someone else and given to the attorney may be evidence, but generally a letter written by the client to the attorney is a privileged attorney client communication, so long as it isn't shown to anyone outside the attorney client relationship.

 

[Blink34]

Oh chit! Thanks for clearing that up. :blowkiss:

Not at all, who the h*ll can keep all this straight

 

[curiositycat]

My first thought was that Casey stole the laundry detergent from the house during her stealth 'shopping' visit home to get the gas cans (what else did she take - Cindy's credit card? Food? Clothes?).

My second thought was that George had mentioned it in connection with the smell and the trunk, so maybe someone either intentionally employed it to try to kill the decomp smell (Casey or George?), or tried to use it for that purpose even though that's not why it was taken.

You might be right about the detergent! When my kids first left home on their own I would come home from work and TP would be gone, dishwasher detergent, LOL. All the little things it's hard to buy on a budget. LOL

 

[curiositycat]

Not at all, who the h*ll can keep all this straight

Not easy when their stories change from day to day. Sometimes minute to minute.

 

[liltigress]

Was he confirming it was taken from the house and then found in the car??

I've noticed that anytime they stress on anything in particular, it appears to be another part to covering up or concealing.

It could be .. "oh yeah, there was some Arm & Hammer in the bag with pizza"... Possibly meaning, "I used Arm & Hammer in an attempt to clean the trunk, which is why LE may find those chemicals"...

Almost as bad as "she may have run over an animal"..

 

[Blink34]

You might be right about the detergent! When my kids first left home on their own I would come home from work and TP would be gone, dishwasher detergent, LOL. All the little things it's hard to buy on a budget. LOL

Laundry detergent reacts to black light- that is my concern about exactly what Ole Georgey said. If he was a detective, he would certainly know that.. There is nothing about the laundry detergent in the affidavit, just the pizza bag in the trash