Caylee Anthony General Discussion Thread #125

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Originally Posted by LiveLoveLaughLiza
Quick question and apologize in advance if it has been asked/answered..............

Why was Amy's resume in Casey's car? It had to be given/taken before the car was towed. Was Casey going to use it as her own?


Maybe Casey was using the info on it as well as other info she found in Amy's car to get a few credit cards.
 
In the 18 minute interview that Lee did before he went into the jail to visit Casey and was denied, he said at about minute 16 that he has been able to verify that she was working or gainfully employed. He said he had verified it to the first of the year but had no reason to look before that. We all keep assuming that she was not working. Has Lee ever expounded on this? Lee also said that Casey would tell him the truth. Where has Lee been? Anyone know about this job or Lee?
I wonder if his 'verification' consisted of that email he turned over to LE. It was allegedly from Thomas Franck, notifying Casey about a Universal event. There is no Thomas Franck working at Universal, and the email address it originated from does not belong to Universal.

We never did find out if Casey received that email legitimately from someone who fabricated it, or if she wrote it herself.
 
Last night, or rather early this morning, there was a lengthy discussion about cell phone ping records, and whether a person's ping records could be legally obtained by a private citizen without that telephone account holder's consent.


The answer is no. Phone records are confidential. A private investigator or bounty hunter may get those records, but not without applying to the the proper Court for Judicial approval to obtain those records. I doubt that Padilla could show cause to the appropriate Court in order to obtain Amy, or Ricardo, or Tony's records. Those individuals are not being bounty hunted by Padilla. It is a federal offense to possess inappropriately obtained ping records. This is what I suspected all along. I though that the idea proposed by others that our phone records are for sale to any private individual just for the asking was incredible.

With respect to Padilla on last night's Geraldo, Padilla referred to "her" records, and not when "she" is sleeping, thus implying that he was talking about the ping records of one individual, most likely Casey.

So LP has Casey's pings. Big Deal. As if LE didn't go through those pings with a fine tooth comb about 300 times already.



Telephone Records and Privacy Protection Act of 2006 - Amends the federal criminal code to prohibit the obtaining, in interstate or foreign commerce, of confidential phone records information from a telecommunications carrier or IP-enabled voice service provider (covered entity) by: (1) making false or fraudulent statements to an employee of a covered entity or to a customer of a covered entity; (2) providing false or fraudulent documents to a covered entity; or (3) accessing customer accounts of a covered entity through the Internet or by fraudulent computer-related activities without prior authorization. Imposes a fine and/or imprisonment of up to 10 years.

Prohibits the unauthorized sale or transfer, in interstate or foreign commerce, of confidential phone records information by any person or the purchase or receipt of such information with knowledge that it was fraudulently obtained or obtained without prior authorization. Imposes a fine and/or imprisonment of up to 10 years. Exempts covered entities from such restrictions to the extent authorized by the Communications Act of 1934 (e.g., for billing, protection of property rights, or for emergency purposes).

Doubles fines and imposes an additional five-year prison term for violations occurring in a 12-month period involving more than $100,000 or more than 50 customers of a covered entity. Imposes an additional five-year prison term for violations involving the use of confidential phone records information to commit crimes of violence, crimes of domestic violence, and crimes against law enforcement officials and the administration of justice.

Grants extraterritorial jurisdiction over crimes defined by this Act.
 
Hi there-
I had the same take on that. I've never seen any other shots of her with that kind of facial expressions.
Have you looked at the "team" that is behind her? King Merk.

The King Merk thing was discussed to death. Patrick, ZG, Society Ent. DBC as well. I believe there many threads for all of them. Which is what the defense team is now using for their play by play defense. Probably the easiest way to find this info would be to use the "search" function at the top of your WS screen. Type in the name or subject you are looking for and choose "show threads".

The defense is creating a spin based on what sleuthers have theorized. And at times those theories ran wild. IMO, we don't need to play or make more kool-aid.
 
I wonder if his 'verification' consisted of that email he turned over to LE. It was allegedly from Thomas Franck, notifying Casey about a Universal event. There is no Thomas Franck working at Universal, and the email address it originated from does not belong to Universal.

We never did find out if Casey received that email legitimately from someone who fabricated it, or if she wrote it herself.

Lee said the verification thing long after that email was proved bogus. It was the day she first denied his visit, at the jail.
 
Oh yea. Mine is continually trying to get mine on the sly. Drives me batty! Go take pics of the birds, I tell him.

O/T but funny...My mom bought my daughter a camera for Christmas year before last and I waited for the memory card to get full (which took about 6 months) and then put them on the computer. It was HILARIOUS. There were so many of her and her little sister being silly, tons of the animals from their point of view, and many of me and my husband driving and stuff. I never even knew she had taken the photos. It was very cute to see life from her perspective.
 
Me, too!! Now lets see...what could you buy at a drug store for that amount of money? Any of her friends work in the photo section perhaps that would let her pass a stolen check?


Ephedrene to make meth? :P

Kidding, but it would have made sense, had this happened a few years ago.. I think most states now only allow you to buy so much and you have to show your ID. At least they do here in Texas. Record your info in a book and all.
 
Quick question and apologize in advance if it has been asked/answered..............

Why was Amy's resume in Casey's car? It had to be given/taken before the car was towed. Was Casey going to use it as her own?

This is a terrific question. Just sayin :)
 
The defense is creating a spin based on what sleuthers have theorized. And at times those theories ran wild. IMO, we don't need to play or make more kool-aid.
Rather makes me want to create a whole substory here and watch them frantically go after it. hehehe
 
Lee said the verification thing long after that email was proved bogus. It was the day she first denied his visit, at the jail.
When was it proven to be bogus? I thought that information came out in an August search warrant application. Didn't Lee's jailhouse phone conversation with Casey occur in July?
 
ok so this king merk is the person being referenced by the white dude who visited Casey in jail?

And I would bet that he beat the crap out of Patrick for dropping his name and dragging him into this mess. There is or were a myspace comment from one of Patricks old friends from high school pretty much saying "dude, that was a long time ago. Don't know where you are getting where you think we are tight. We've all moved on. So should you."

It doesn't appear more than anything other than Patrick living in the past and hanging on to his glory days. He's an odd duck.
 
Ephedrene to make meth? :P

Kidding, but it would have made sense, had this happened a few years ago.. I think most states now only allow you to buy so much and you have to show your ID. At least they do here in Texas. Record your info in a book and all.
True in some states like here, but there are many who have not signed onto that yet.

I don't think that is what she had in mind tho. She had to know that eventually her grandmother's check would be called into question and she would be the first one they would look at. Unless she is really that oblivious to reality. Oh, wait...we are talking about Crasey, aren't we?!
 
Sorry, all. I've got some big distractions here right now.
I can't get the link button for the Pat B. call to work. It is very interesting, especially given the story that she didn't have a clue who he was.
The audio may be here on the Media, audio,... thread. If not, I'll try turning the URL into a link again.
Nope, it's not working. Sorry.
 
Last night, or rather early this morning, there was a lengthy discussion about cell phone ping records, and whether a person's ping records could be legally obtained by a private citizen without that telephone account holder's consent.


The answer is no. Phone records are confidential. A private investigator or bounty hunter may get those records, but not without applying to the the proper Court for Judicial approval to obtain those records. I doubt that Padilla could show cause to the appropriate Court in order to obtain Amy, or Ricardo, or Tony's records. Those individuals are not being bounty hunted by Padilla. It is a federal offense to possess inappropriately obtained ping records. This is what I suspected along. I though that the idea proposed by others that our phone records are for sale to any private individual just for the asking was incredible.

With respect to Padilla on last night's Geraldo, Padilla referred to "her" records, and not when "she" is sleeping, thus impying that he was talking about the ping records of one individual, most likely Casey.

So LP hasw Casey's pings. Big Deal. As if LE didn't go through those pings with a fine tooth comb about 300 times already.



Telephone Records and Privacy Protection Act of 2006 - Amends the federal criminal code to prohibit the obtaining, in interstate or foreign commerce, of confidential phone records information from a telecommunications carrier or IP-enabled voice service provider (covered entity) by: (1) making false or fraudulent statements to an employee of a covered entity or to a customer of a covered entity; (2) providing false or fraudulent documents to a covered entity; or (3) accessing customer accounts of a covered entity through the Internet or by fraudulent computer-related activities without prior authorization. Imposes a fine and/or imprisonment of up to 10 years.

Prohibits the unauthorized sale or transfer, in interstate or foreign commerce, of confidential phone records information by any person or the purchase or receipt of such information with knowledge that it was fraudulently obtained or obtained without prior authorization. Imposes a fine and/or imprisonment of up to 10 years. Exempts covered entities from such restrictions to the extent authorized by the Communications Act of 1934 (e.g., for billing, protection of property rights, or for emergency purposes).

Doubles fines and imposes an additional five-year prison term for violations occurring in a 12-month period involving more than $100,000 or more than 50 customers of a covered entity. Imposes an additional five-year prison term for violations involving the use of confidential phone records information to commit crimes of violence, crimes of domestic violence, and crimes against law enforcement officials and the administration of justice.

Grants extraterritorial jurisdiction over crimes defined by this Act.

There have been lengthy arguments about this on not only this board, but others. Originally when the Patriot Act was implemented, garnering someone's phone records was much easier than it is today, due to the Act you specified above. What Padilla in his twisted way can do is if he already has the pings (which he could, if the family has them), he has to get the key for translation of those pings from the cellular carrier, AT&T. Each key for each carrier is different, and I do believe those can be purchased.
 
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