Caylee & JonBenet

[eileenhawkeye]

Also, is Casey's trial going to be covered live on any national news channel? Are cameras allowed in the courtroom? And did they decide yet whether there would be a change of venue? And if so, where is the trial being moved to?

 

[scout35]

Also, is Casey's trial going to be covered live on any national news channel? Are cameras allowed in the courtroom? And did they decide yet whether there would be a change of venue? And if so, where is the trial being moved to?

It will be covered live on TruTV and I think it will be streamed on the internet. There won't be a change of venue but the Judge has decided he will seek out jury members from a different, unknown county(ies).

 

[2goldfish]

SD, I think it's clear that the Ramseys were given a lot more leeway than Casey, but OTOH there is definitely more circumstantial evidence pointing to Casey than to the Ramseys.

actually not quite true...there is tremendous circumstantial evidence linking the ramseys to the murder of jonbenet.

but back to actual topic: superdave, if you truly want to dedicate yourself to learning about this case (I could not imagine leaping in at this late date and not being seriously confused and sick) you could start here http://www.wftv.com/news/23080678/detail.html scroll to the bottom and start at the beginning.

 

[Turnadot]

Hello, everybody!

Some of you may know me from the JonBenet forum. But I confess that I don't really know much about this case. So, I thought it might help if I could gain a little more knowledge.

But I have my own reasons. What inspired me was a blurb on TV the other night. In in, it was stated that the case against Casey is purely circumstantial. I knew that, but it illustrated the difference between the approach law enforcement in Boulder took vs. the approach they take just about every place else.

Correct me if I'm wrong about any of this:

--the police arrested Casey before they even found a body;

--there are no eyewitnesses, no confession, no DNA, nothing at all that would be considered a classic "smoking gun;"

--the prosecutor in this case cared more about a little girl's death than about hurting the suspect's feelings or their politcal careers or the town's reputation;

--Casey cannot afford high-price, politically connected lawyers;

--the evidence against Casey is mostly anecdotal;

--Casey had no known history of violence, mental illness, etc.

See, over on the forum where I'm so well-known, this is the perfect counterpoint to some, who claim that literally every single case must have a "smoking gun" in order to get a conviction, that there's no such thing as putting together circumstantial evidence into a totality, that probable cause is a very easy thing to establish, etc.

By their own logic, then, Casey has been railroaded six ways to Sunday. To me, the way this case was handled vs. the JonBenet case is night and day, but that's about the ONLY difference.

But, as I said, I don't know that much. I am your empty cup. Fill me, baby!

BBM

Hi, Dave.

IMO, the smoking gun is evidence that a decomposing body was in KC's trunk, due to the fact there was a hair with a post-mortem band at its root, which was a mitochondrial DNA match to KC and Cindy, and both of them are alive, so...

KC has had high profile, politically connected lawyers at the defense table; it's a revolving door. Most recent, and still there, is Cheney Mason.

 

[webhound]

In addition to the "grave wax", stain, and decomp odor in the trunk of ICAs vehicle, there was a hair with a "death band" on it shown to belong to the deceased body of either the mother, the grandmother or the child. Since the mother and grandmother are still alive, the hair in the trunk belonged to the murdered child.

 

[webhound]

BBM

Hi, Dave.

IMO, the smoking gun is evidence that a decomposing body was in KC's trunk, due to the fact there was a hair with a post-mortem band at its root, which was a mitochondrial DNA match to KC and Cindy, and both of them are alive, so...

KC has had high profile, politically connected lawyers at the defense table; it's a revolving door. Most recent, and still there, is Cheney Mason.

Jinx Turnadot!!! Also, I agree that this is the Smoking Gun.

 

[Turnadot]

webhound, webhound, webhound, webhound, webhound!

 

[Novice Seeker]

Here's a very brief overview

Hello, everybody! Hello

Some of you may know me from the JonBenet forum. But I confess that I don't really know much about this case. So, I thought it might help if I could gain a little more knowledge. Yes, I drop in occassionaly and always enjoy your insight

But I have my own reasons. What inspired me was a blurb on TV the other night. In in, it was stated that the case against Casey is purely circumstantial.Depending on whom you believe. DNA evidence that includes hair follicles with death banding was found in ICA's trunk which no one else's fingerprints were lifted besides the mother. But there wasn't just hair fibers, there was grave wax found on paper towels, a decomposition odor, a timeline that puts that car in KC's possession until she dumped it at the store where it sat until the business called the tow yard that took possession of the car until George and Cindy arrived to claim it. Again, there is no evidence that anyone other than Casey had contact with the evidence found in the car. I knew that, but it illustrated the difference between the approach law enforcement in Boulder(a classic example of fundemental 101 police work took vs. the approach they take just about every place else.

Correct me if I'm wrong about any of this:

--the police arrested Casey before they even found a body;Yes, based on the evidence collected from the car, Casey's lack of alibi, interviews with friends and family about Casey, the Anthonys and time period from when Caylee was last seen by anyone other than the Anthony's, phone records of Casey, Cindy, George, Lee, boyfriends, friend.

--there are no eyewitnesses, no confession, no DNA, nothing at all that would be considered a classic "smoking gun;" The smoking gun is the hair samples found in the trunk, the grave wax found in the trunk, the chain of events of Casey borrowing the neighbor's shovel, the cadaver dogs hitting in the back yard, and the horrific decomposing smell in the car

--the prosecutor in this case cared more about a little girl's death than about hurting the suspect's feelings or their politcal careers or the town's reputation;
The prosecutors, JA, LDB and the rest of the prosecution team are to be commended
--Casey cannot afford high-price, politically connected lawyers;

--the evidence against Casey is mostly anecdotal;There is more than enough tangible and indisputable evidence, IMO

--Casey had no known history of violence, mental illness, etc. No. There are no medical records of her being treated for violence or mental illness. She does have a long history of stealing, a criminal behavior. Depending on how one wants to define violence, Casey has a history of explosive behaviors that involved cursing at her parents, verbal altercations with her parents which were witnessed by neighbors. And then we have the video of George and Cindy visiting Casey in jail that shows Casey in a fit of rage that's directed at the parents.

See, over on the forum where I'm so well-known, this is the perfect counterpoint to some, who claim that literally every single case must have a "smoking gun" in order to get a conviction, that there's no such thing as putting together circumstantial evidence into a totality, that probable cause is a very easy thing to establish, etc. Unless a smoking gun can only be defined as being found with the dead body. In Caylee's case duct tape was found around her mandible and that duct tape was traced back to the Anthony home

By their own logic, then, Casey has been railroaded six ways to Sunday This perception of logic is only being used by George and Cindy. To me, the way this case was handled vs. the JonBenet case is night and day, but that's about the ONLY difference. Agree. With both of these little girls their families knew what was going on and did NOTHING. *IMO

But, as I said, I don't know that much. I am your empty cup. Fill me, baby!

We only serve beer and the hard stuff but we do share our chocolate :biggrin: and our sense of humor:lol:


So, :welcome5:



Novice Seeker

 

[Kat]

Hello, everybody!

Some of you may know me from the JonBenet forum. But I confess that I don't really know much about this case. So, I thought it might help if I could gain a little more knowledge.

But I have my own reasons. What inspired me was a blurb on TV the other night. In in, it was stated that the case against Casey is purely circumstantial. I knew that, but it illustrated the difference between the approach law enforcement in Boulder took vs. the approach they take just about every place else.

Correct me if I'm wrong about any of this:

--the police arrested Casey before they even found a body;
Yes, but her initial arrest was not for the murder charge. She had other crimes (non violent that she commited and has since pled out to IIRC. Her arrest and charge of murder came in Oct of 2008 IIRC but it is accurate that she was arrested before Caylee was found. I've seen quite a few cases where the individual is arrested prior to the murder victim being found (if they are indeed found) as I'm sure you have as well. IMHO this factor doesn't prove she was railroaded at all. JMHO


--there are no eyewitnesses, no confession, no DNA, nothing at all that would be considered a classic "smoking gun;"

Accurate, no smoking gun so to speak. But the circumstantial evidence is compelling to say the least JMHO.

--the prosecutor in this case cared more about a little girl's death than about hurting the suspect's feelings or their politcal careers or the town's reputation;

Accurate statement IMHO.

--Casey cannot afford high-price, politically connected lawyers;

No she can't but she has some very high priced attn's that have assisted her case so far. I have no clue if they are politically connected though because sometimes those connections are obvious. JMHO

--the evidence against Casey is mostly anecdotal;

No not at all. Here is where the circumstantial evidence (what we have seen so far) is so compelling that IMHO one can not logically explain away that evidence in context.

--Casey had no known history of violence, mental illness, etc.

Well, she has no history of reported violence where there is documentation of that violence. Meaning she may have acted in a violent way at one time or another and it wasn't reported (by her parents..etc) and we also don't know if she has any mental illness. It hasn't been reported that she was diagnosed with a mental illness that is accurate (I'm not saying she does I'm just saying that because we haven't seen so far any reports of mental illness doesn't mean there wasn't some type of issue in the past)

See, over on the forum where I'm so well-known, this is the perfect counterpoint to some, who claim that literally every single case must have a "smoking gun" in order to get a conviction, that there's no such thing as putting together circumstantial evidence into a totality, that probable cause is a very easy thing to establish, etc.

By their own logic, then, Casey has been railroaded six ways to Sunday. To me, the way this case was handled vs. the JonBenet case is night and day, but that's about the ONLY difference.

I agree with you on this one in comparing both cases and seeing that legally that is the only difference.

But, as I said, I don't know that much. I am your empty cup. Fill me, baby!

Hi Dave :seeya: I don't post on the Jonbenet threads or here usually but I do read both and try my best to keep up.

I'm going to add a few thoughts in red to your post. Hope you don't mind. Of course, they aren't important because there are so many here that know each and every detail of this case by memory alone.

All JMHO and recollections.

 

[dog.gone.cute]

Hello, everybody!

Some of you may know me from the JonBenet forum. But I confess that I don't really know much about this case. So, I thought it might help if I could gain a little more knowledge.
...
But, as I said, I don't know that much. I am your empty cup. Fill me, baby!

respectfully snipped:

Hi SuperDave,

Last night was the first time I read the JonBenet forum here on WS, and I recognized your name from when I saw it here on Caylee's forum. :great:

What prompted me to read the JBR forum was the "inaccurate" very "pro-Ramsey" show on JonBenet done by Aphrodite Jones on the ID Channel. In My Opinion, it was one of the "worse" shows I have seen on JonBenet ... and I will have to post there when I get some more time ...

:cow::cow::cow:

Cindy and George Anthony KNOW what happened to their granddaughter, Caylee ... and they KNOW WHO IS responsible -- their daughter Casey ...

Just as John and Patsy KNOW what happened to their daughter, JonBenet, ... and they KNOW WHO IS responsible !

Both the Anthony's and Ramsey's repeatedly "lied" in order to preserve their "image". For the Ramsey's, it was an "image" that included "money" and "prestige", and of course, the "right connections".

For the Anthony's ... Cindy has been "covering" for her daughter Casey for many years who is a known "liar" to her family and friends; "thief" -- stole money from family members as well as her grandfather who is in a nursing home; "murderer" - murdered her daughter Caylee. Cindy just cannot accept the "fact" that she produced a "murderer" and will do anything and everything to save NOT only her daughter, but HER IMAGE -- Cindy's image. MOO MOO MOO

Poor Caylee and JonBenet ... I have yet to see their "parents" or "grandparents" seek justice for the "real killer" because in my opinion ... the real killer is a member of the family.

 

[Amil]

The one thing I cannot get/shake is the FACT that CA was the last person VERIFIED to be seen with anALIVE CAYLEE by (people outside the Anthony family and by video taken at the nursing home) on Father's Day June 16 2008.
~It seems to me that everyone is choosing to overlook that fact.
~The rest is simply hearsay by GA and CA, who are known to lie, get violent and suffer from some form of mental instability. BOTH have been "on the record " with suicide issues.

MOO ~ I thought the last person to see the victim alive was always the POI... and Caylee wasn't an adult that could have left grandma's and end up falling victim to foul play.
Public consensus is KC did it and probably did, but why and how did CA escape hours of interrogation
by LE ~ why does anyone really believe GA even saw Caylee the 16th?
*** no offense my WS friends This keeps me awake at night... CA and GA are the loose cannons and always have been. They LIE.
CA ~ IMO was THE LAST PERSON with an alive Caylee… beyond that I think the rest of the "story" was created during the 30/31 days until they got "stuck" having to bring home the death car. IMO only a guilty person would work that hard to remove evidence, because they knew where all of it was. CA stated "there is no "evidene" if she had NO INVOLVEMENT~ how could she say that with any degree of certainty?

MOO MOO

My interest is piqued. Somewhere in my head is the idea that at least two of the family members knew baby Caylee was deceased before the 31 days. Lee is out, he became a determined detective looking for her. CA was hysterical and called the police so I'm ruling her out. Which one said"ICA is sort of in trouble, we found the car"? What kind of statement is that to make? What was that person getting at "sort of in trouble". It wasn't the tow yard causing the trouble. It wasn't the stink causing the trouble. It was getting the car back that was the trouble.... the kidnapping lie was backfiring.

 

[heartfortruth]

actually not quite true...there is tremendous circumstantial evidence linking the ramseys to the murder of jonbenet.

but back to actual topic: superdave, if you truly want to dedicate yourself to learning about this case (I could not imagine leaping in at this late date and not being seriously confused and sick) you could start here http://www.wftv.com/news/23080678/detail.html scroll to the bottom and start at the beginning.

Thank you for this link. My computer had crashed a few weeks ago and I lost all my bookmarks collected since I first became glued to Caylee's story at the beginning. I have forgotten a lot, too, and need to review; this was perfect and a great suggestion for someone who has not followed this closely like many of us have.
I started at the bottom with Yuri's taped interview on Hopespring Dr. and was "re - amazed" at how smoothly KC spills forth her lies; hardly misses a beat. We see in that one interview how easily KC could manipulate someone ..friend, family , lawyer....who wanted to believe her, was not objective and was not as "savvy" and skilled as Yuri. (I'm sorry JB didn't have a Yuri)
Yep, sitting here shaking my head in amazement all over again.

 

[Mysteeri]

Hi SuperDave, I don`t know where to begin. Here´s a little summary, all details are not included.

Caseys past behaviour is condemning. She`s a habitual liar who has stolen money from her parents and a friend, for which she is now convicted.

She googled "chloroform", "how to make chloroform", "household weapons" and "neck breaking" before Caylee died.

She lied to the police about the nanny named Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzales, about her job, gosh, about so many things I can`t remember everything. In the 31 days when Caylee was "missing", she told no-one about it. When people wanted to see Caylee she claimed she was with the nanny (who no one has ever seen) and Casey lived a normal, happy life, that´s what it seemed to others. It was Caseys grandmother who`s suspicions grew and she finally confronted her, demanded to be taken to Caylee and got Casey to admit that Caylee was missing, that the babysitter supposedly took her. The grandmother immediately called 9/11 and on that call Casey even lied that she had received a phone call on that same day from Caylee (she was already dead). Of course the call does not show on her phone records and she has "lost" all the numbers of (imagined) people who have something to do with her nanny-story.

And her car stunk of decomposition and there is forensic evidence supporting that there was a dead body in her trunk.

Casey has zero credibility and she most likely won`t take the stand.

(There would be a lot to say about the grandparents too, but this summary is about the accused murderer.)

I think it´s clear that Casey is guilty, not sure about the Ramseys.

 

[Softail]

Hello, everybody!


--the police arrested Casey before they even found a body;

snipped for space.

Yes for lying to police, and child neglect. She told everyone including the police, that she dropped Caylee off at the baby sitter's apt. She went with an officer to point out the apt. The next day, she needed to retrieve a phone from her "office" at Universal. She went so far as to lead dectectives there, walking down a hallway headed to her office, when she finally admitted she really didn't work there.

ALL LIES! No nanny, no nanny apt (it had been vacant for months), no job. Zilch, zip, nada. :banghead::banghead::banghead:

 

[WolfmarsGirl]

Hello, everybody!

Some of you may know me from the JonBenet forum. But I confess that I don't really know much about this case. So, I thought it might help if I could gain a little more knowledge.

But I have my own reasons. What inspired me was a blurb on TV the other night. In in, it was stated that the case against Casey is purely circumstantial. I knew that, but it illustrated the difference between the approach law enforcement in Boulder took vs. the approach they take just about every place else.

Correct me if I'm wrong about any of this:

--the police arrested Casey before they even found a body;

--there are no eyewitnesses, no confession, no DNA, nothing at all that would be considered a classic "smoking gun;"

--the prosecutor in this case cared more about a little girl's death than about hurting the suspect's feelings or their politcal careers or the town's reputation;

--Casey cannot afford high-price, politically connected lawyers;

--the evidence against Casey is mostly anecdotal;

--Casey had no known history of violence, mental illness, etc.

See, over on the forum where I'm so well-known, this is the perfect counterpoint to some, who claim that literally every single case must have a "smoking gun" in order to get a conviction, that there's no such thing as putting together circumstantial evidence into a totality, that probable cause is a very easy thing to establish, etc.

By their own logic, then, Casey has been railroaded six ways to Sunday. To me, the way this case was handled vs. the JonBenet case is night and day, but that's about the ONLY difference.

But, as I said, I don't know that much. I am your empty cup. Fill me, baby!

Hey SuperDave!!!! So nice to see you over here,

I pretty much stopped posting on the JB thread because it was hopeless and I could not stand to see so many newbies actually buying the Intruder-Did-It balogne. We all know who did it - may she rest in whatever peace she can find...

That being said, this case is nearly identical to the JB case, except, instead of having a husband who lacks a backbone, as in the Ramsey case, KC has a whole family who lacks one. The A's remind me so much of John in the JB case, it is sickening.

KC has the advantage over PR in the sense that she was able to get out of the house with the body and dispose of it.

Also, KC was the last person seen with Caylee. JB had a brother, father AND a murderer to hang out with on her final day.

PR wrote a ransom note (because she could not get the body out of the house in the dead of winter), and KC just created a babysitter-kidnapper. She didn't mess with the foreign faction thing, just a foreign-born sitter.

If PR would have been arrested immediately, as KC was, more or less, then we would have seen a conviction in JB's case too. But, the R's hired attorneys right away and kept LE at bay for so long it became comical.

There are so many things to say about both of these cases, but I will let my very-capable friends on this board elaborate most of it for you.

Nice to see you around this neighborhood!!

(In this post, when I refer to 'JB,' I mean 'JonBenet.')

 

[snowdaze]

Has anyone mentioned the pictures taken of her clubbing during the 31 days her daughter was missing? How about the tattoo? Her own actions are the smoking gun, IMO

 

[MissJames]

Hey SuperDave!!!! So nice to see you over here,

I pretty much stopped posting on the JB thread because it was hopeless and I could not stand to see so many newbies actually buying the Intruder-Did-It balogne. We all know who did it - may she rest in whatever peace she can find...

That being said, this case is nearly identical to the JB case, except, instead of having a husband who lacks a backbone, as in the Ramsey case, KC has a whole family who lacks one. The A's remind me so much of John in the JB case, it is sickening.

KC has the advantage over PR in the sense that she was able to get out of the house with the body and dispose of it.

Also, KC was the last person seen with Caylee. JB had a brother, father AND a murderer to hang out with on her final day.

PR wrote a ransom note (because she could not get the body out of the house in the dead of winter), and KC just created a babysitter-kidnapper. She didn't mess with the foreign faction thing, just a foreign-born sitter.

If PR would have been arrested immediately, as KC was, more or less, then we would have seen a conviction in JB's case too. But, the R's hired attorneys right away and kept LE at bay for so long it became comical.

There are so many things to say about both of these cases, but I will let my very-capable friends on this board elaborate most of it for you.

Nice to see you around this neighborhood!!

(In this post, when I refer to 'JB,' I mean 'JonBenet.')

MAybe we could use JBR for JonBonet ?eace:

 

[Solace]

Hello, everybody!

Some of you may know me from the JonBenet forum. But I confess that I don't really know much about this case. So, I thought it might help if I could gain a little more knowledge.

But I have my own reasons. What inspired me was a blurb on TV the other night. In in, it was stated that the case against Casey is purely circumstantial. I knew that, but it illustrated the difference between the approach law enforcement in Boulder took vs. the approach they take just about every place else.

Correct me if I'm wrong about any of this:

--the police arrested Casey before they even found a body;

--there are no eyewitnesses, no confession, no DNA, nothing at all that would be considered a classic "smoking gun;"

--the prosecutor in this case cared more about a little girl's death than about hurting the suspect's feelings or their politcal careers or the town's reputation;

--Casey cannot afford high-price, politically connected lawyers;

--the evidence against Casey is mostly anecdotal;

--Casey had no known history of violence, mental illness, etc.

See, over on the forum where I'm so well-known, this is the perfect counterpoint to some, who claim that literally every single case must have a "smoking gun" in order to get a conviction, that there's no such thing as putting together circumstantial evidence into a totality, that probable cause is a very easy thing to establish, etc.

By their own logic, then, Casey has been railroaded six ways to Sunday. To me, the way this case was handled vs. the JonBenet case is night and day, but that's about the ONLY difference.

But, as I said, I don't know that much. I am your empty cup. Fill me, baby!

Re: High priced lawyer; she did get Cheney Mason who proceeded to get her Judge Belvin Perry - I am sure that is regretted.

As far as her having a mental illness history, I will say she is a pathological liar (nothing that would help her defense); she has stolen from pretty much everyone she comes in contact with and this started, what we know, with her brother; I am going to say it probably started earlier.

She fits the description of a sociopath, which is also not a disease and not usable as a defense, since it is considered a disorder and the sociopath does know right from wrong.

SD,

It is a fascinating case in that the family has done a complete turn about within a 24 hour period. The son took a little longer than that. He was interviewed by the police I believe on July 28, 2008 voluntarily - it seems he soured on LE believing they had tunnel vision (after the interview). The interview took place about 12 days after Casey was arrested. The father voluntarily was interviewed on July 24, 2008 and he can't be more grateful to LE and is as honest as he can be about the guilt of his daughter but then changes. Cindy is basically hopeless after 24 hours.

Wish you would come on in and join the discussion because you offered fantastic insights into the JonBenet case. The trial starts on May 9th. Hope yo will be here. You can view it on wftv. I sound like an ad. This Board is incredible with the what is offered in the way of facts of this case and just the insights on the evidence, ESPECIALLY the stain in the trunk.

Hope to see you hear. Solace

 

[LolaMoon08]

There is a huge difference between Jon Benet's case and Caylee's case, for me personally.

I do not feel comfortable saying that I believe John and Patsy had something to do with Jon Benet's murder. There is just as much evidence to suggest that they are innocent than there is to suggest they are guilty.

I am 100% comfortable saying that Casey is guilty of murdering Caylee. Nothing that has come out in there nearly three years has swayed this thought... it has actually reinforced it.

To start from the beginning we have --

1) 31 days! 31 days Casey did not report Caylee missing. Actually, Casey never reported Caylee missing... Cindy reported Caylee missing. Casey wanted "one more day." 911 calls!

2) "Somethings wrong. I found my daughters car today and it smells like a dead body in the damn car." 911 calls!

3) The handwritten statement... the only think that is even remotely true in this statement is Caylee's name, her birthdate and her description.

4) Audio interview with Casey Anthony conducted by Yuri Melich. Casey sticks with her original story given in her written statement and gives more details... including the lost phone at Universal Studios that she reported missing to Universal security (ALL LIES).

5) The Audio Interview with Casey Anthony at Universal Studios. Casey is confronted with her lies... she doesn't budge... but lies more!

6) Evidence of a happy Casey Anthony at the Sheriff's Office before she was arrested. She doesn't at all to appear to be a mother of a missing child.

7) "Oh. My. God. Calling you guys? A waste... a huge waste." Casey's first phone call to the Anthony home after being arrested.

8) "All they care about is getting Caylee back." Casey's first phone call to the Anthony home after being arrested.

9) Cadaver dogs alerted on the trunk of Casey Anthony's car. They also alerted to the Anthony back yard.

10) A piece of hair, that could only belong to Cindy Anthony, Casey Anthony or Caylee Anthony showing signs of decomposition in Casey's trunk. Casey and Cindy are alive... Caylee is unaccounted for.

11) Casey's text messages about dead squirrels in her car. Text messages that show no sign of any concern about Caylee. Text messages that show how she has done nothing but party and live a "beautiful life" for the past 31 days.

12) Pictures of Casey living the "beautiful life"

13) Casey getting a tattoo that says "The Beautiful Life."

14) The Blockbuster video of Casey and Tony renting movies not even three hours after Casey claims to have learned that her baby had been taken.

15) The changes in the kidnapping stories from Sawgrass to Jay Blanchard Park.

16) The paper towel with grave wax.

17) The outline of a deceased Caylee in Casey's trunk... caused from the stain that according to evidence (which has not yet been admitted) is consistent with human decomposition.

18) Casey's computer searches. Chloroform. Neck Breaking. Household weapons. Shovels. One Tree Hill espisode where a nanny kidnaps a child.

19) Casey borrowing a shovel from her neighbor when there is one right there in the shed she would have no problem breaking into later on.

20) Casey not wanting George Anthony anywhere near the trunk of her car when she stole his gas cans.

21) The gas cans with the piece of rare duct tape on it.

22) The rare duct tape that was found on Caylee's skull! Put on so tight that it kept her manible in place.

23) This same rare brand of duct tape appears on poster the Anthony's set up at their command centers.

24) The Whitney Laundry Bag found with Caylee that matches one found in the Anthony's garage.

25) Garbage bags with Caylee that are similar to those found at the Anthony home.

26) Casey Anthony selling pictures of Caylee at the price of $200,000.00 when Caylee was still "missing." Instead of putting that money towards the reward to bring Caylee home.. she spends it on a defense for herself... a defense that consisted of charges of lying to LE and child neglect at that time. She was not charged with murder.

27) The jail visits where Casey can not be concerned with talking about Caylee because HER whole life had been taken from her... but Casey's life had been taken from her... she is out of loop... she is missing chili dinners at home... when told how much the reward money for Caylee was she quips "That's half my bond."

28) The jail letters where Casey once again changes her ZFG story. Not a worry in the world about her murdered child, who had been found, she was all ready and willing to adopt another child... from Ireland... irish accent and all.

29) The bugs that were found within the trunk of Casey's car. Coffin flies! Enough said!

30) The plant growth that proves that Caylee had been out in those woods for months on end. The video of Dominic Casey out in those woods and you can see the vegetation!

31) 31 days! Nothing will get her past those 31 days!

You can find all of this information online... if you want to dig in a little deeper!

 

[claudicici]

Hi Dave,I agree that there is just as much circumstantial evidence in the Ramsey case as there is in Casey's.The only difference truly is the way it is being handled.If only the Boulder police would have done half as awesome a job the orlando LE did JonBenet may have gotten justice .......so the main difference is there will be justice for Caylee,as far as there can be justice but sadly not for Jon Benet IMO