Cindy Anthony Says Someone Hacked Her Email Account *REVISITED*

[TURBOTHINK]

So what does your bolded part mean, that the "hack" originated from Orlando?

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[DianeB]

anyone ponder the thought that perhaps the first e-mail released about the brush was kinda approved by feds like a semi-warning to CA????? and the others perhaps added more to the evidence of tampering?? jmo

It's certainly possible that ol' Larry forwarded potentially-incriminating emails to both Kathi Belich and the FBI. Lord only knows what else Cindy may have confided to Garrison when he was still among the favored few.

 

[TURBOTHINK]

Is there anyway to tell if it came from Cindy's computer??? Or is what you posted as detailed as the trace gets?

I have a program on my laptop computer which can go to the origin and even the street address, but the screen went out on it and it is in the shop. As soon as they get it fixed, I will run it.

 

[tiredofthis]

I have a program on my laptop computer which can go to the origin and even the street address, but the screen went out on it and it is in the shop. As soon as they get it fixed, I will run it.

Excellent!

 

[MaedchenX]

And she also supposedly told that guy, that since OCSO has her laptop, that they used her computer to communicate with him.

You know, considering the source (and I don't mean Cindy) I am going to have to take this revelation with a grain of salt the size of Greenland. I find it difficult to believe much of, if anything, this person reveals even when they offer photoshopp...I mean, photographic "proof".

 

[Chezhire]

ummmm.....i meant that once this case does go to trial and all this stuff like the alleged hacking and obstruction, the cloud of doubt being raised over who did what to whom, the alleged sightings of caylee, the fact that there is no body, JB's inexperience..etc..it all adds up to a mistrial if you ask me.
i am no law expert though so what do i know? just stating my opinion like everyone else.

I value everyone's opinions on this board, but it does help if those offering certain opinions in specialized and/or expert fields have the background / education / experience to be offering same to the rest of us in this forum.

For instance, I'm not a forensic entymologist, so you won't see me offering any opinion on said subject (with the obvious exception of any time I am provided with such an opinion by someone who holds themselves out as an expert in such a field and I'm happily quoting that opinion in connection with a theory of mine re: what happened.)

As far as posters being able to offer opinions on this case's facts and theories about what happened to Caylee Anthony, I'd say the amount of threads on this case alone is a testament to how wonderfully that works here at WS.

Having said all of that, I am an attorney and I also concur with the opinions of the several other WS posters re: there's no possibility for any mistrial at this stage of the legal proceedings as no trial has even begun and, therefore, nothing can have been said or done during said trial to merit any such ruling.

 

[Chezhire]

I have a program on my laptop computer which can go to the origin and even the street address, but the screen went out on it and it is in the shop. As soon as they get it fixed, I will run it.

THAT makes me sit up & take note! THANKS!!!
:woohoo::woohoo::woohoo:

 

[shelbar53]

I value everyone's opinions on this board, but it does help if those offering certain opinions in specialized and/or expert fields have the background / education / experience to be offering same to the rest of us in this forum.

For instance, I'm not a forensic entymologist, so you won't see me offering any opinion on said subject (with the obvious exception of any time I am provided with such an opinion by someone who holds themselves out as an expert in such a field and I'm happily quoting that opinion in connection with a theory of mine re: what happened.)

As far as posters being able to offer opinions on this case's facts and theories about what happened to Caylee Anthony, I'd say the amount of threads on this case alone is a testament to how wonderfully that works here at WS.

Having said all of that, I am an attorney and I also concur with the opinions of the several other WS posters re: there's no possibility for any mistrial at this stage of the legal proceedings as no trial has even begun and, therefore, nothing can have been said or done during said trial to merit any such ruling.

If the "hacked" emails contain damning information about where the body is or that casey killed her, could those be used in court. Or could the newpaper release them, say next week if they want. And if they do, will it damage the case?

 

[JusticeorJustUs]

From the Orlando Sentinel:


http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2008/12/casey-anthony-c.html

I think this is really funny:

WFTV-Channel 9 reported that someone in Ocala could have hacked into the Anthonys' e-mail account over the holiday weekend.

"Channel 9's Kathi Belich knew something was wrong when those personal messages first appeared in her in box," anchor Bob Opsahl said Monday night. Belich passed the e-mails along to the FBI.

"There was something odd about Cindy sending these e-mails to me, especially because a couple of them were about me and not so nice," Belich said.

Bold by me.

It wouldn't surprise me one bit if CA included a couple of negative emails just to really make it look like a hacking that she had nothing to do with. Something about how her twisted mind works (or doesn't work). All those doc dumps that I'm sure she read over Thanksgiving. That shady spokeswoman. That incompetent (not to mention clueless) PI.

And the hairbrush email.

I'm not buying it.

 

[Chezhire]

All Cindy has to do is turn her computer over to LE for them to check and see if Cindy received an acknowledgment email from Yahoo telling her the "Yahoo email password was changed." Yup, I tested it out on my own email account and you get an email from Yahoo.

Even if the "hacker" deleted the acknowledgment email from Yahoo, it would still be there for LE to view! :crazy:

So PG - if even we know that this is how it works, let's pray LE has already checked this today.

 

[Gram2]

Well, her Email address was posted on a site over the weekend. I guess it's possible someone hacked it.

 

[ElizaAvalon]

I think anyone who thinks you can trace an IP from an email generated from a Yahoo email account should create their own Yahoo email account, send an email to themselves and then try to track the IP.

Good luck.

 

[Chezhire]

If the "hacked" emails contain damning information about where the body is or that casey killed her, could those be used in court. Or could the newpaper release them, say next week if they want. And if they do, will it damage the case?

Typically speaking, any evidence used by the prosecution in court during the trial must have been lawfully obtained by LE. Anything that is not lawfully obtained is considered "fruit of the poisonous tree" and said evidence, along with any other evidence that the "fruit" led to, is, as a general rule, inadmissible at trial. (Note that a judge does not have any duty and/or oligation to ensure that things were legally obtained by LE, as it is the defense attorneys role to ensure same and, when appropriate, make objections thereto.)

When we are discussing evidence and/or information that is illegally obtained by a third party (NOT LE) and leaked to the general public, it does NOT preclude LE from attempting to obtain said evidence legally via a search warrant, subpoena, etc. If they are able to do so, then the information and/or evidence will be deemed admissible.

In this case, it seems that it would be quite simple for LE to get a search warrant for any computer that Casey had access to, and I'm pretty certain she had access to all of the computers in her parents' home...

I note that if LE has obtained information and/or evidence via a confidential informant, well, that triggers a whole slew of issues that I won't digress into at this point in this case.

 

[faefrost]

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Embarq Services looks to be an ISP and not the end point user involved in any e-mail hacking. It looks like they serve central Florida. So whoever sent the e-mails is a user of theirs in some form, and recieved an IP from their pool.

 

[ElizaAvalon]

Embarq Services looks to be an ISP and not the end point user involved in any e-mail hacking. It looks like they serve central Florida. So whoever sent the e-mails is a user of theirs in some form, and recieved an IP from their pool.

Thank you.

That is exactly what it is. An ISP - Internet Service Provider.

The header on an email sent from Yahoo gives you the ISP only. And that gives you a general location of the sender.

It does not give you the IP (and, in turn, the exact location) of the sender themselves.

 

[MiraclesHappen]

Ah, OK! Thanks for clearing up the LG email for me. I was getting confused. LOL

:wave:

Cindy has NEVER denied she is the source of the email which unveils hairbrushgate. She has danced around on semantics and intentions, in her attempts to justify the content.
The ones which are in the second group of emails have not been made public and were apparently written in the Ocalonian language.

Once the Anthony's stray from "no comment" it often becomes a ball of confusion.

 

[jennyb]

I think the most telling part of this hack story is I haven't heard CA saying "I didn't write those emails!!!" -- she's just saying she was hacked. Unless I missed something.

You'd think the first thing someone would say under these circumstances is "I didn't write them!!!" and then mention being hacked, not the other way around.

Anyway, I might be wrong, but from CA's past behavioral tics I feel she would've strongly come out with not writing them right off the bat.

 

[shelbar53]

Typically speaking, any evidence used by the prosecution in court during the trial must have been lawfully obtained by LE. Anything that is not lawfully obtained is considered "fruit of the poisonous tree" and said evidence, along with any other evidence that the "fruit" led to, is, as a general rule, inadmissible at trial. (Note that a judge does not have any duty and/or oligation to ensure that things were legally obtained by LE, as it is the defense attorneys role to ensure same and, when appropriate, make objections thereto.)

When we are discussing evidence and/or information that is illegally obtained by a third party (NOT LE) and leaked to the general public, it does NOT preclude LE from attempting to obtain said evidence legally via a search warrant, subpoena, etc. If they are able to do so, then the information and/or evidence will be deemed admissible.

In this case, it seems that it would be quite simple for LE to get a search warrant for any computer that Casey had access to, and I'm pretty certain she had access to all of the computers in her parents' home...

I note that if LE has obtained information and/or evidence via a confidential informant, well, that triggers a whole slew of issues that I won't digress into at this point in this case.

thank you for answering but I will stick to the medical field, much easier to understand.

Did you listen to the LE tpaes of them interviewing casey {right before she was arrested the first time}.

I was kind of shocked at how poor the interviewers were, or maybe I was just monday morning quaterbacking. Is that a typical LE interview? I mean in your experience..is that considered a normal interiew or was it below par?

 

[jennyb]

thank you for answering but I will stick to the medical field, much easier to understand.

Did you listen to the LE tpaes of them interviewing casey {right before she was arrested the first time}.

I was kind of shocked at how poor the interviewers were, or maybe I was just monday morning quaterbacking. Is that a typical LE interview? I mean in your experience..is that considered a normal interiew or was it below par?

As a layperson I don't think they were all that good, but I'll tell you, I bet even they had to struggle a bit to grasp just how much of a true liar KC was. Didn't they say they'd never seen anything quite like her? It probably spun their heads around almost as much as ours. So I cut them some slack. I'm sure they don't run into KC types everyday. But I have the same feeling as you, they weren't all that good. In real time it must have been revelatory, minute by minute, wow...

 

[leophoenix]

No worries Mama Sin. The FBI can trace whom had access to your Yahoo account. Yahoo themselves probably has records of which IP addresses have accessed your account. This is easily obtainable information by authoritie so they can tell exactly what server he person was on, contact that ISP and narrow it down to whom was licensed on using that IP at the time.

Of course if you are making this up they will know that as well.