Cindy Anthony subpoenaed to appear in court

[Gma Kat]

Ah, but that was before the molestation accusations...

This subject keeps rolling around in my head.....the molestation accusations...sorry mods if I'm too O/T, but it seems relevant to this particular discussion.....

In GA's letter to KC - he doesn't deny molestation does he? He asks her why she destroyed the family, threw him and Lee under the bus, "Why? Why" "Oh Why KC?" waaaa waaaaa......

But he doesn't call her a liar does he? I need to go back and find that letter again because what stood out to me is that he did not deny anything....seemed upset it was exposed.....now they did deny everything to the media....but it's GA's letter to KC that seemed to lack the denial and focused on the exposure....

As usual, I could be wrong, but it would make a lot of sense if KC WAS really keeping that info a secret from the public and THAT is why this family pussy-foots around her the way they do. She holds the dirty family secrety.

If it's not true, well, it does just fall in line to all the other lies KC tells to garner sympathy from people.

Just my :twocents: - it's been bothering me.....

 

[LambChop]

But KC does not lie. CA says they are mistruths. To put it in writing that she is a liar is a forbitten subject in that household. GA has been conditioned to believe that. KC does not lie or steal. She's just the perfect princess. What we need is the letter from the other inmate to see why KC brought this up. My vote would be to garner sympathy. KC does alot of "This happened to me, too. See we are the same." She wants the attention focused on her. And what better way. Much more attention than if she said her brother hit her when she was 12. jmo

 

[texaslb218]

I'm going to play amateur psychologist here for a minute even though I'm not in the least bit qualified to do so (I don't even play one on TV) but here are my thoughts. If the allegations KC made about being molested are true and if she told CA and CA blew her off then that might explain a lot of stuff on both sides.

Of course the allegations came from KC so just like anything else emitted from the mouth of KC it has to be taken with a very tiny grain of salt.

As you noted, this really does a disservice to those who will be asked to believe the unbelievable. I'm sure many a parent was first tempted to dismiss a report of sexual abuse, and then chose the higher path of protection for the child.

How on earth would we (LE, SA) ever be able to even guess at the truth of what KC reports? GA or LA would have to confess, IMO, for there to be any amount of truth revealed, and even then...

I strongly agree with your statement of explanation for many aspects of the CA/KC dynamics if the abuse is true. It would also explain some of the statements we have puzzled over.

 

[LambChop]

KC acts just like her mother. We can see that now with all the lies CA has told. To my knowledge CA has never said she was molested by anyone in her family. KC just patterns herself after her mother, just as KC patterned herself after Jesse, and then TonE L. They apparently have the same temperment. Let's hope CA does the right thing on the 15th and just answers the questions to the best of her ability, which means just tell the truth. jmo

 

[butterfly1978]

I hope you are right, but his last public appearance, at the Memorial was cringe-worthy.

Yes, you are right but look at how long ago that was, where has he been since then?
I still feel that the whole CMA thing was simply Lee trying to keep the peace with his mom and dad. You have to remember the undercover police video with LA and TL, that was when he thought that none of his family would see or hear how he felt. Also he hasn't written to Casey, he doesn't come to the hearings, and Casey stated in one of the letters she wrote that Lee was working with LE. All that on top of Casey claiming Lee molested her, I think he will stand up for Caylee.

 

[LiveLaughLuv]

This subject keeps rolling around in my head.....the molestation accusations...sorry mods if I'm too O/T, but it seems relevant to this particular discussion.....

In GA's letter to KC - he doesn't deny molestation does he? He asks her why she destroyed the family, threw him and Lee under the bus, "Why? Why" "Oh Why KC?" waaaa waaaaa......

But he doesn't call her a liar does he? I need to go back and find that letter again because what stood out to me is that he did not deny anything....seemed upset it was exposed.....now they did deny everything to the media....but it's GA's letter to KC that seemed to lack the denial and focused on the exposure....

As usual, I could be wrong, but it would make a lot of sense if KC WAS really keeping that info a secret from the public and THAT is why this family pussy-foots around her the way they do. She holds the dirty family secrety.

If it's not true, well, it does just fall in line to all the other lies KC tells to garner sympathy from people.

Just my :twocents: - it's been bothering me.....

No, he doesn't call her on the allegation....he only asked why, why destroy Lee...Why, why destroy me, Why, why destroy Caylee.....never did he deny the allegation, he only asks WHY!

He does go on to say, Why, even as I continually support you...

George's letter
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/24043180/detail.html

 

[Chiquita71]

Hello WS

I decided to watch(again)Cindy's depo with Morgan and Morgan. I was going to watch it all and then come to comment...but I got one minute and eleven seconds into the very first video, the first question asked was a basic "who was living at your house at the time?" And Cindy already asked what the "relevancy" is of that question. :crazy:

I think Casey will try to get out of going to court, she shouldn't have used the "falling" thing so soon. I think when it gets too rough on the stand for Cindy, and her usual tactics don't work...she will fake "falling out." Cindy will act like she is having an breakdown because she is a grieving grandmother and she hasn't been sleeping well or eating well...

IMO, Cindy and Casey are true sociopaths and from my understanding, sociopaths never tell the truth and will never do what is normal or right. They are incapable.

Okay, back to the videos...

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uG-bUi5QFl4&feature=related[/ame]

ETA: Cindy said, "I had no reason to think Casey didn't have a job."

:twocents:

 

[kushka]

This subject keeps rolling around in my head.....the molestation accusations...sorry mods if I'm too O/T, but it seems relevant to this particular discussion.....

In GA's letter to KC - he doesn't deny molestation does he? He asks her why she destroyed the family, threw him and Lee under the bus, "Why? Why" "Oh Why KC?" waaaa waaaaa......

But he doesn't call her a liar does he? I need to go back and find that letter again because what stood out to me is that he did not deny anything....seemed upset it was exposed.....now they did deny everything to the media....but it's GA's letter to KC that seemed to lack the denial and focused on the exposure....

As usual, I could be wrong, but it would make a lot of sense if KC WAS really keeping that info a secret from the public and THAT is why this family pussy-foots around her the way they do. She holds the dirty family secrety.

If it's not true, well, it does just fall in line to all the other lies KC tells to garner sympathy from people.

Just my :twocents: - it's been bothering me.....

It bothers me too -
George is just too focused on KC physically for it to be a normal father/daughter relationship; calling her beautiful, gorgeous, his sweetheart.

Moreover, some of the things he writes are just too icky – like the statement in the letter of 11/3/98.

“I love you, I need us, and I need to see you “

Who, other then a lover says I need us?

And in the letter of 3/25/10 where he is admonishing her for telling – For causing his “heartbreak”

“I have tried, sacrificed, continued to have you”

Continued to HAVE you???????

In addition, he never denies it – in that letter. And that is just not normal

If I remember correctly in that letter to the other inmate ICA’s accusations against him were pretty mild, something like she thanks she remembers he came in her bedroom and looked at her breast while she was asleep.

It seems that if Casey was lying about it to get sympathy she would have make up a more grandiose lie – like they use to tie her to the bed, beat and rape her, and allowed all their friends to follow suit, not just a mild they looked at me inappropriately.

 

[mysticrose]

Why do I feel "contempt " in the near future for Cindy ?

 

[Chiquita71]

In the depo Cindy says she was actively involved in raising Caylee. I remember when the questions got too deep for Cindy regarding her not protecting Caylee when she was on one of the morning shows and she started in with the "I'm just a grandmother, not the mother..." to distance herself from any responsibility.

Cindy is easy: if it seems like it will make her look good, (paying for Caylee)she takes all credit: but as soon as something goes wrong she backs away from any knowledge of responsibility.

That is my call about these people: both Cindy and Casey want attention and credit for being wonderful people but they refuse, absolutely refuse to take any responsibility for anything else. Neither Casey nor Cindy will ever do anything other than blame everything else and everyone else for Caylee's death(murder) and the fact Casey awaits the needle.

:cow:

 

[doogiesgirl]

I can't imagine how LA will feel after KC's accusations against him. I hope that will be his incentive for telling the truth. I think he will.

If Lee Anthony was going to tell the trueth, he would have done it a long time ago, and, I don't think that we would be where we are today. JMO.

For me, LA is a true wild card in this equation. I too hold out hope that he or GA will come to their senses and just testify honestly but I'm not gong to lay any money on it.

Personally I don't get the way GA & LA have reacted, or should I say I don't get their lack of reaction to what KC said about them. I only know that if I was wrongly accused of the same? My reaction would be LOUD & ANGRY & VERY PUBLIC. That's if I was innocent though. I wouldn't be able to defend that person after that if I was innocent. Because I would be thinking if she can lie about me in so horrible a way, in so life ruining a way, how do I know that she isn't lying about killing my grand daughter/ niece? If I was innocent.....the trust would be totally GONE.

If LA attempts to lie or defend KC when testifying on the 15th, after what she's said about him in letters? IDK......the fact that he's doing that even after KC accused him of some pretty nasty stuff.....well that will speak loud & clear when it comes to the whole picture, (if you get my drift).

:cow:

 

[rileysmom]

Maybe BC will throw his back out again. The SA should put a pizza in someone's trunk NOW and bring it into court with them.

Then she would probably say it is the wrong type of pizza, or it came from the wrong pizzeria. I just hope I can get this day off from work.

 

[Cat13067]

If George doesn't attend this hearing..........it will be very telling.

I bet GA shows up to support his son. If he doesn't show up at the hearing it's going to speak volumes.

 

[Cat13067]

Please---I NEED OPINIONS...based on your previous experiences... which live video stream should I watch? I don't know which one I used last time, but it kept timing out very easily if I didn't remember to hit refresh--it was very frush-trating!

WFTV has always been pretty good. I also watch InSession which is on the television.

 

[LambChop]

Unforturnately this is not about these two men having any control in their lives. GA has spent most of his married life and LA has spent all his life doing what these two women wanted. Even now they have little control. I do not see the "little princess" putting up with any of it at age 12 or 17. KC hid her pregnancy from her family and I bet they still do not know who the real father is. jmo

 

[Cat13067]

While I know someone will have to try to explain all this to CA before Court, poor soul, I just don't see Judge P letting her get too out of control. He will remind her to just answer the question, if she refuses he will hold her in contempt. Judge P will reign this in one way or another. He doesn't like to waste the Court's time and money on blathering on, or any other antics. He will be patient I am sure, but he will be gavel banging if CA doesn't take some kind of calming med first.

If CA gets slapped with contempt maybe she can finally get as chance to talk with her daughter at the jail. Could you just see CA screaming in the vents now. KC, sweetheart are you there?

 

[Aedrys]

I bet GA shows up to support his son. If he doesn't show up at the hearing it's going to speak volumes.

He probably will be there to see his son, I would imagine. Or maybe Cindy will force him to be there so they can all have a family reunion and stay united (make me gag!). This is going to be more about the A family than the 911 calls.

I can hear it now, "It's been over a year since the whole family has been in one room. How will they react to each other? Will it be love and peace, or anger and Jerry Springer? Stay tuned to see what happens in this next chaper of the Anthony Family drama! (and oh yeah, this is a hearing about the 911 calls, but that's not so important)."

Okay, I know it won't be that bad, but sadly, I'm tuning in more to see the family than the actual hearing, lol.

And you know Cindy is going to be parading on the talk shows if all goes well. "See? We were all together and we love and support each other. Casey is innocent!"

 

[Chiquita71]

Now Cindy just said that JG, the Grunds were the one's that started calling the nanny "zanny". She said, "Casey just called her "the nanny."

I don't want to be o/t here, but Cindy's answers in this depo are ridiculous! Her answer to everything is to lie to cover up whatever truth the person asking the questions is working towards. You can see her jump ahead in her mind to catch where they are going so she can block them and show them how "wrong" they are.

I'm am getting more and more angry...I will probably have to stop watching these videos now...I looked for the thread on the depos and found only one. It is very small and relates that George and Cindy canceled their first meeting with Morgan. I forgot that...

History shows us, the Anthony's are willing to pull any trick in the book. To steal a phrase from a comment on YouTube: Chomp, chomp, chomp, dirty look, sigh, chomp, chomp, chomp...

I think Cindy may be a secret smoker...jmo.

ETA: Cindy just said that she has seen pictures of Jeff H. and has seen pictures of his son Zachary!!! OH, the LIES! Seriously, if Cindy gets up on the stand and lies like this...what will be done? TIA.

:twocents:

 

[kaRN]

For me, LA is a true wild card in this equation. I too hold out hope that he or GA will come to their senses and just testify honestly but I'm not gong to lay any money on it.

Personally I don't get the way GA & LA have reacted, or should I say I don't get their lack of reaction to what KC said about them. I only know that if I was wrongly accused of the same? My reaction would be LOUD & ANGRY & VERY PUBLIC. That's if I was innocent though. I wouldn't be able to defend that person after that if I was innocent. Because I would be thinking if she can lie about me in so horrible a way, in so life ruining a way, how do I know that she isn't lying about killing my grand daughter/ niece? If I was innocent.....the trust would be totally GONE.

If LA attempts to lie or defend KC when testifying on the 15th, after what she's said about him in letters? IDK......the fact that he's doing that even after KC accused him of some pretty nasty stuff.....well that will speak loud & clear when it comes to the whole picture, (if you get my drift).

:cow:

Blue respectfully highlighted by me. I expect that GA was contacted by BC and escorted to the offices of JB and CM to be asked those 2 questions. His response to ICA and his lack of response publically was probably suggested by BC. George was also really quiet after the mistress revelation and IMO, it's because he's smart enough to listen to good advice. Cindy is another case.

I think a huge public reaction on his part would have made him look guilty. He doesn't now IMO because nothing KC says can be believed anyway.

 

[Cat13067]

This subject keeps rolling around in my head.....the molestation accusations...sorry mods if I'm too O/T, but it seems relevant to this particular discussion.....

In GA's letter to KC - he doesn't deny molestation does he? He asks her why she destroyed the family, threw him and Lee under the bus, "Why? Why" "Oh Why KC?" waaaa waaaaa......

But he doesn't call her a liar does he? I need to go back and find that letter again because what stood out to me is that he did not deny anything....seemed upset it was exposed.....now they did deny everything to the media....but it's GA's letter to KC that seemed to lack the denial and focused on the exposure....

As usual, I could be wrong, but it would make a lot of sense if KC WAS really keeping that info a secret from the public and THAT is why this family pussy-foots around her the way they do. She holds the dirty family secrety.

If it's not true, well, it does just fall in line to all the other lies KC tells to garner sympathy from people.

Just my :twocents: - it's been bothering me.....

I agree with you about GA not denying the molestation of KC. The GMA interviewer asked GA how he felt about this accusation, and CA spoke up, and said "he's hurt" then GA said, "I still am", but never did either one deny the charge.

I am just wondering if this is a defense plan to throw GA, and LA under the bus. I can see GA taking a fall for KC, but Lee..not seeing it.