Cindy Over the Edge? Where are the A's?

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Their lies are what have given the prosecution the ammunition to get a guilty verdict for KC. KC could have plead this down and been out in a few years except for their lies, and Baez going along with the nanny story, CA gave KC at the time.

I think that's a cop out. Casey can make up her own mind. If she wanted a deal she would have taken it. Any defense lawyer is going to do anything they can to get their client off, that's what they are hired to do.
 
In my opinion, it's like another poster said a while back. This whole thing is really about Cindy. KC learned to lie and control from Cindy. Cindy lies and controls to create her "reality", which must be picture perfect. Cindy is probably narcisstic and that in turn helped KC to develop into a psychopath. Problem is, a murdered grandchild is a real kink in Cindy's narcisstic reality---hard thing to get rid of with just a lie or temper tantrum. Cindy has lost control of her world and that KILLS a narcissicist. KC, meanwhile, cares only for her own comfort and wants, doesn't care about appearances at all and her only concern is how to get out of jail and party again. No doubt she and B are cooking up many ways to throw all the A's under the bus in hopes of a hung jury. JMHO

Cindy is not narcisstic. That word is just floated around far too much. If you go to the psych thread and read about narcissm, you will see what the narcisstic mind is like. It's not Cindy. She may be a b*tch, stubborn, domineering and whatever adjectives you may wish to throw...however, narcisstic does not come to mind when I view any of her video's or read of her history or demeanors during her investigative tapes with the police. Not at all.
 
I think that's a cop out. Casey can make up her own mind. If she wanted a deal she would have taken it. Any defense lawyer is going to do anything they can to get their client off, that's what they are hired to do.


And... Casey is the one who started all the lies. She is the one in control of all of this and has everyone on puppet strings doing her dance.
 
it is just as likely that when she meets another man that she attaches herself to, she will develope a "new romantic picture" and that picture is her having his baby. Not because she is mature enough and ready to have a child or even because she wants to nurture and love a child, simply because it fits within her romantic illusion at the time. Should the circumstances or the situation change between the two - again the child will be the one eliminated.

Lets hope she won't be given a chance to ever have that scenario occur. Quite honestly, I think the death penalty will be back on the table.
 
They couldn't 'enjoy' room service? Who in their right mind goes out to an expensive dinner the day their granddaugher's remains are found?:bang:

Room Service at the Ritz would be more expensive than a meal in the dining room. Perhaps they could not could not could not be alone with their thoughts together, alone, in a hotel room. I'll betcha a coke you can get a salad and a glass of water at the Ritz dining room. I continue to fail to see how where they stayed or what they ate should be a determiner of their character.

Blaise
 
Room Service at the Ritz would be more expensive than a meal in the dining room. Perhaps they could not could not could not be alone with their thoughts together, alone, in a hotel room. I'll betcha a coke you can get a salad and a glass of water at the Ritz dining room. I continue to fail to see how where they stayed or what they ate should be a determiner of their character.

Blaise

I too see no relevance in this. They were not allowed back into there house, where else should they have gone? Who cares if they ate? I know I wouldnt be able to eat, but that doesn't mean everyone is the same. Some eat for comfort. Maybe they were drowning their pain. Who knows, it doesn't really matter.
 
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I didnt mean I felt she should be there for "a while". I was trying to explain that I seriously doubt that they want her to spend her life in prision, although that is what she deserves. As for her being an adult, she never acted like one and I believe that they enabled her not too. I don't care how old your child is, they are still your baby in your heart. There are parents who think once their child is 18 they should be done with any responsibilty for them. Yes, they need to let them go and make their own mistakes, but as a parent you always, no matter what age, look out for them. It doesn't end when they become adults. JMO

I agree, in my heart, both of my son's (24 & 28) are my babies, I still tell them that whenever they stop in to see the Mama. I guess that I'm not one of those parent's that thinks it's over at 18 because both of my sons went onto college, of course they both held down a part-time job thru-out to help with some of their expenses. Thankfully! As far as it ending, as that song by RT goes, it's a love without end - amen. (I hate country music :eek:)
 
Room Service at the Ritz would be more expensive than a meal in the dining room. Perhaps they could not could not could not be alone with their thoughts together, alone, in a hotel room. I'll betcha a coke you can get a salad and a glass of water at the Ritz dining room. I continue to fail to see how where they stayed or what they ate should be a determiner of their character.

Blaise

Room service is always much more expensive. The service is figured in and you generally tip on top of that. Do we even know if it was their choice of hotels?
LE escorted them from the airplane...too many questions for me.
 
I too see no relevance in this. They were not allowed back into there house, where else should they have gone? Who cares if they ate? I know I wouldnt be able to eat, but that doesn't mean everyone is the same. Some eat for comfort. Maybe they were drowning their pain. Who knows, it doesn't really matter.

And 10 or 20 or 30 years from now, when this case is discussed, people will still be tossing out, "and, yeah! she stayed one nite at the Ritz! Ate in the dining room and everything!"

I sometimes wonder what little factoids from true crime cases of 30 years ago we never knew because of the lack of an internet.

Blaise
 
Turbo..............this makes more sense as a defense strategy - blaming her parents for Caylee's death, than to continue with the "nanny did it" scenario. I think it's very likely the defense will try to pin the murder on someone else, and George and Cindy are the number one candidates.

So...is Casey not allowing her parents to have custody of Caylee's remains part of this defense strategy ? Why would she give control of her daughter's remains to the person(people) she is going to accuse murdered her ? Wow.....:eek:
 
I read and don't chime in much, but this analysis really got to me.

What WOULD motivate a person, anyone, regardless of the nature of the relationship, to actively seek to PREVENT another person from experiencing the consequences of their actions??

It is a strong, urgent "prevention". Why???? (snipped)

I don't know if this applies to the As, but sometimes when people hit rock bottom, they can't get back up. Maybe they thought the true consequences of their actions would be too horrible for them to handle.
 
Room service is always much more expensive. The service is figured in and you generally tip on top of that. Do we even know if it was their choice of hotels?
LE escorted them from the airplane...too many questions for me.

The Orlando Ritz has 9 restaurants/cafes. Norman's is the most $$$$. I'm sure a salad or sandwhich from Room Service would not have cost as much as anything at Normans. So saving $$$$ isn't the reason they ate there.

Frankly, if they were truely shocked by the news, I would think they would have cherished the privacy of a room service meal. If they weren't shocked, they may have agreed to a "working" dinner in the restaurant with their attorney, PIs etc. Do we know who else was there with them ?
 
I've been reading this thread since yesterday and haven't jumped in with an opinion because, to tell the truth, I'm conflicted about the thread topic............."Has Cindy Gone Over the Edge? Where are the A's?"

I think Cindy may have begun the journey to going over the edge long before Caylee went missing. From all that's been stated by Casey's friends, neighbors, and extended family members, life with Casey has been an ongoing crisis for many years. Although we haven't heard too much about Casey's early or teenage years, I have no doubt those years were filled with one crisis after another. Lies, theft, and promiscuity seem to be a way of life for Casey, and not something that's just happened in the past year or two.

I think what we've seen in the past 6 months is the culmination of years of crisis. I also think that Cindy, as the dominent parent in the household, played a major role in each and every crisis, and failed when it came to dealing with them effectively. It was always a matter of smoothing things over until the next crisis, nevering dealing with the issue head on. Casey was never made to take responsibility for her actions.

I have great sympathy for anyone who loses a loved one, and especially when that loved one is a child. For that reason I sympathize with the Anthony's loss.

But, I'm conflicted. Even though I sympathize for their loss, I can't forget the behavior exhibited by Cindy, George and Lee for the last six months. I can't excuse it, saying that none of us know how we would act if we were in their shoes.

I know, without a doubt, that I would not behave in the manner that Cindy has behaved. I wouldn't be insulting strangers telling them to get off their a$$ and look for my grandchild. I would not be alienating law enforcement or the media.........I would be grateful for their help. I would not be confrontational, wielding a hammer or baseball bat in a threatening manner, nor turn the hose on people gathered in front of my house, nor kick over cameras belonging to media. I wouldn't have done anything that would cause angry protesters to gather in front of my home. The media wouldn't be camped in front of my home waiting for my next angry outburst. I would not be going on television programs and telling lies or casting doubt on law enforcement or those searching for my grandchild. I wouldn't be seeking donations with an eye to profit. I would not align myself with a shady organization like Kid Finders. I would not even consider selling my story to media, and I would not be giving tours of my home to media. I wouldn't be alienating my immediate or extended family, and would instead be relying on them for help.

Back to the question of this thread............has Cindy gone over the edge. None of us know for sure what's going on with George and Cindy. I'm sure they're grieving the loss of Caylee, and the last time we saw Cindy in an interview (LKL) she did appear to be on medication. I'm sure the last six months is catching up with her.

I seriously doubt that a new attorney has made George and Cindy suddenly realize they should stay away from the media. I think it's more likely they've been informed of their own cupability, hence the request for immunity. I would hope that the Anthonys have sought out the help of counselors to deal with everything that's happened and to deal with their grief. In the long run, whether or not they realize it, they're going to need the help of others for years to come.
 
So...is Casey not allowing her parents to have custody of Caylee's remains part of this defense strategy ? Why would she give control of her daughter's remains to the person(people) she is going to accuse murdered her ? Wow.....:eek:

IMO KC has had to give JB legal responsibility for the remains while the defense team and experts carry out their own examinations/tests etc. I expect when that is all completed then custody will probably be transferred to the A's so that they can go ahead with the funeral.
 
IMO KC has had to give JB legal responsibility for the remains while the defense team and experts carry out their own examinations/tests etc. I expect when that is all completed then custody will probably be transferred to the A's so that they can go ahead with the funeral.

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Only if she doesn't trust her parents to give the defense team the access they need.
 
The fact that it had been 31 days BEFORE she was reported missing told most logical thinkers all they needed to know to assume she was dead. No one has ever waited that length of time to call LE where the child was not dead, so that was almost a given.

The only thing which forced LE to spend a lot of useless time and money searching for her was CA going on with all the lies to anyone who would listen, when she KNEW Caylee was dead.

Just the very fact that she would not give TES clothes for the tracking dogs in September told me she was dead, and that she KNEW that KC did it. She was afraid they would get a scent from that house again like the cadaver dogs did and find the body. The LIES on Greata, the LIES afterward about the cadaver dogs on TV after people knew what the police said about the hits. Most people are not easily fooled, and she tried to make fools of everyone in order to collect money to pay bills and protect KC.

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Very well put! I agree with everything you said, TURBOTHINK! I have been here on this forum from the beginning and believe this!
 
The fact that it had been 31 days BEFORE she was reported missing told most logical thinkers all they needed to know to assume she was dead. No one has ever waited that length of time to call LE where the child was not dead, so that was almost a given.

The only thing which forced LE to spend a lot of useless time and money searching for her was CA going on with all the lies to anyone who would listen, when she KNEW Caylee was dead.

Just the very fact that she would not give TES clothes for the tracking dogs in September told me she was dead, and that she KNEW that KC did it. She was afraid they would get a scent from that house again like the cadaver dogs did and find the body. The LIES on Greata, the LIES afterward about the cadaver dogs on TV after people knew what the police said about the hits. Most people are not easily fooled, and she tried to make fools of everyone in order to collect money to pay bills and protect KC.

:clap::clap::clap:

Very well put! I agree with everything you said, TURBOTHINK! I have been here on this forum from the beginning and believe this!
 
The fact that it had been 31 days BEFORE she was reported missing told most logical thinkers all they needed to know to assume she was dead. No one has ever waited that length of time to call LE where the child was not dead, so that was almost a given.

The only thing which forced LE to spend a lot of useless time and money searching for her was CA going on with all the lies to anyone who would listen, when she KNEW Caylee was dead.

Just the very fact that she would not give TES clothes for the tracking dogs in September told me she was dead, and that she KNEW that KC did it. She was afraid they would get a scent from that house again like the cadaver dogs did and find the body. The LIES on Greata, the LIES afterward about the cadaver dogs on TV after people knew what the police said about the hits. Most people are not easily fooled, and she tried to make fools of everyone in order to collect money to pay bills and protect KC.

:clap::clap::clap:

Very well put! I agree with everything you said, TURBOTHINK! I have been here on this forum from the beginning and believe this!
 
Whatever happened to the statement by the A's attorney, that they want justice for their grand-daughter. In exchange for Immunity the Anthonys will help prosecute their daughter? Am I wrong on this statement?
 
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