Cindy spoke of "Zanny" ?

[songline]

I could see Cindy's memory playing tricks on her as in, knowing Zanny's phone number and then accidently transposing the numbers or some simple error in memory recall.

I CAN'T, however, fathom Cindy never thinking to ask for Zanny's phone number... at all.[/i]

Exactly: I do not live with my grandkids and I know the baby sitter and the number. I remember when My kid was very young and I did live with my parents when I left her Dad, and my Mom had everybody's phone numbers too.
I can not imagine Cindy for 2 years of Casey leaving with Caylee and talking about a baby sitter never met her or never got contact info. Something about that does not sound right.

Maybe Grandmas saying that Maybe Casey hated her mom more then she loved Caylee is staring to make sense.
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/en...case-her-grandmothers-words-are-haunting.html
NBC's "Today" this morning highlighted those words and the Anthony family tensions. Grandmother Shirley Plesea told investigators,"I just wonder if she [Casey] hated her mom more than she loved Caylee."

 

[~ Amy ~]

LOL...So if zanny isn't a fictious person , then I guess that means Zach and Annabelle wouldn't be FICTIOUS either ? Hows about Juliet , Raquel , Gloria and Victor ? Did I miss anyone else ? IMO I think they all are fiction...almost as if they all are her make believe friends. Oh shoot , I forgot Samantha..the get away driver at JBP. Shame on me , how could I forget her , AFTERALL wasn't she the one who loaded the "kids" up while "Zanny" was teaching KC a lesson and handing KC the famous script.? It looks to me like if any of this crazy story were half way true that some of these people would have stepped forward by now. It wouldn't shock me at all , if some of these "characters" aren't her make believe friends from her childhood.

 

[Ames]

I thought this was interesting, a reporter asks Cindy some questions about the "nanny"...

QUESTION: Hey, Cindy, did Caylee ever talk about Zenaida ? Did she ever say the baby-sitter's name?

CINDY: She talked about her puppy all the time.

QUESTION: Did she ever say the baby-sitters name?

CINDY: I never asked her about the baby-sitter. I mean, when I got her, it was all about her being home and getting love and playing and just doing stuff, so there was never a reason. She talked about her puppy all the time.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,402098,00.html

So, Caylee talked about "Zanaida's" puppy all the time? I cannot believe that Cindy never asked her about the babysitter, but let Caylee go on and on about the puppy. That makes no sense. It reminds me of KC saying that when she got the "phone call" from "Zanaida", she said that all that Caylee talked about was a book, and her shoes. Why in the world would Caylee go on and on about a pair of her shoes? Anyway, I know that there is NO Zanaida, but I just thought that shoe thing was weird. As with everything that KC lies about...there had to be a reason that she said that Caylee went on about her shoes.

 

[ibyoungr]

So, Caylee talked about "Zanaida's" puppy all the time? I cannot believe that Cindy never asked her about the babysitter, but let Caylee go on and on about the puppy. That makes no sense. It reminds me of KC saying that when she got the "phone call" from "Zanaida", she said that all that Caylee talked about was a book, and her shoes. Why in the world would Caylee go on and on about a pair of her shoes? Anyway, I know that there is NO Zanaida, but I just thought that shoe thing was weird. As with everything that KC lies about...there had to be a reason that she said that Caylee went on about her shoes.

I do not believe Caylee talked about "Zanaida's puppy" She SUPPOSEDLY talked about a puppy. I think just because Caylee talked about the puppy does not mean she said "Zenaida's puppy." I think Casey was trying to lend credence to her lie. Only after the police were called did Casey start using the name Zenaida. Cindy just takes whatever lies that Casey's tells her and runs with it. Same with the pizza box story that GA gave CA. My daughter is 1 week older than Caylee.. in 2006 and 2007.. she referred to my sitter's puppy as puppy.. until she started talking then she called the dog by his name... No 2 year old is going to say.. "Zani's puppy or Zenaida's puppy"

After reviewing the texts and interviews, I am of the opinion, that she ONLY used the name Zani until she spoke to the police. In the interviews with her friends and family they say she used the word sitter, nanny or her mom for when asked about or spoke of Caylee's care. In text messages, sitter or mom is used.
If someone could show me caused I may have missed it...

Where does she use the COMPLETE NAME ZFG BEFORE JUNE 16th?

I think she used that complete name of ZFG for the first time with police. A like on the fly. It was a name that sounded most like Zani and Kiomarie has an aunt named Zenaida and there was Zenaida G down the street. She uses bits of truth in all her lies... then name floated to the top first.

 

[ibyoungr]

In the interviews I thought Cindy denied knowing the name "Zanny",
but her mother, SP, and also 2 co workers had heard Cindy for two years
talk of a babysitter named "Zanny"
Did I read that right?
I just can't imagine that Cindy if she had believed there was a sitter and talkd about a sitter that she would have never demanded to meet her and have contact info.

NOTE: I'm not saying there was a sitter..we all know there wasn't.

Correct they all heard Zanny/Zani NOT Zenaida.

When Caylee was with Casey.. Casey told her mom Caylee was with Zani or the nanny.
When Caylee was with Cindy... Casey told her friends Caylee was with a sitter, nanny or used the name Zani.

Cindy KNEW there wasn't a sitter.. because she had her every night.. while Casey was supposedly working at Sports Authority. She did not want to admit to her co-workers and family her daughter was a deadbeat. Perpetuate the lie to keep the image.

Cindy probably did confront Casey about not really having a sitter... did you see the August 14th video? I am sure this is how 99% of their converstations went on a daily basis. Talking to Casey must be very frustrating and tiring.. I am sure GA and CA were giving up.

Cindy: Casey where is Zani live?
Casey: Oh, mom...sweetie do not worry about it. I do not leave her there very often. (Thinking to herself.. I am really Zani but I do not want mom to know that)
Cindy:Casey.. I do not think you really have a nanny.. why do we not ever meet her?
Casey: OHHHHH YOU MAKE ME SOOOO MAD.. Dad what is wrong with mom..
( I will start them fighting to pull the attention off of me)
Cindy: Well if you say so, sweetie... Oh, Casey.. it's not that I do not believe you...it just that I care so much about Caylee and think we should put her in a pre-school daycare.... and you could get a job working DAYS.
Casey:MOM, She is MY DAUGHTER..(clinching fists) I am trying to become an EVENT COORDINATOR so I can make 50,000 or more a year so I do not HAVE to depend on you. You want me to quit? So to like work at an office job as a secretary? Hmmm, is that what you want? Then you will have to help out forever...You just do not want me to succeed do you.. You want Caylee....and to make the decisions and you are not going to.
Cindy: SIGHS... and puts head down on table...


Coworker to Cindy: How is Casey doing?
Cindy: She is an event coordinator.. doing well ( not really but I do not want them to know that I do not think she is really working but stealing.. I can't tell my co-workers the truth. Besides it is really none of their business.)
Coworker to Cindy: Who watches Caylee? Well, I do at night and I do get tired but sometimes Zani watches her. (can't let co-worker know that I am being used by my sociopath daughter - might not think well of me)

 

[RhondaIL]

Where was that in the documents chilly? I never read or saw that.

In the 7/30/08 interview, http://www.wftv.com/video/18035442/index.html Cindy explained to the FBI how she gave LE the last known number ... address she had for Zanny in case she ever had to pick Caylee up. (the first 2 minutes of the interview)

 

[suspicious1]

Or did not care

My thoughts exactly!

 

[bananarama]

I am convinced that whenever KC told Cindy Caylee was with Zanny that KC was also there. I really doubt KC would go home to the house and then tell Cindy that Caylee was with Zanny - that to me would prompt Cindy to ask more questions, but it seems that KC was always with Zanny and Caylee. Since there was NO zanny - Caylee was never left with her for more than a few fake hours - while we all know she was with KC.

Except when she went to "work". Which she did all the time, so I still don't see how Cindy could not have EVER met "Zani" if she was real.

 

[theskredes]

I find this whole 'nanny' thing annoying on some level..most ppl just say 'babysitter' or 'sitter'.. if someone told me their child was with 'Zany the nanny' I would do a red alert right away. No one would use that term, unless they kind of giggled as they said it, and it sounds so silly it calls attention to a subject you would think she would be glad to keep to herself and not draw attention to.
I would ask questions about the baby sitters real name, or at least say "Your babysitter is called Zany? What an unusual name!" or perhaps "You have a nanny for little Caylee? Maybe you should look around for a sitter, I understand that nannys are extremely expensive." Of course she would give some reply, but no matter, what I mean is, why did no one questin the odd name and the rhyme of 'Zany the Nanny'..

Bolded by me.
I think this is exactly why KC called her Zany the Nanny. A nanny gives the image of having money and a status in life. We all know how KC likes to give off the impression of having thing and a life that she really doesn't.

 

[brownflower]

bold mine.

Cindy gave the slip of paper with Zanny's number to LE.

If Cindy really felt that was the nanny's number why didn't she call her when she was looking for Casey and Caylee?
:waitasec:

"Hi Zanny, this Cindy, Casey's mom. Sorry to bother you but, we haven't seen Casey or Caylee for awhile and her car was impounded and we're trying to track her down. When was the last time you watched Caylee?"

Wouldn't that be the logical thing to do?

 

[ziggy]

Yes, good call. CA surely would have tried to contact a sitter or nanny when KC was MIA with Caylee in tow.

You can see from the emails to and from brother Rick that everyone but CA will admit there is no nanny. CA will not answer rick about it only to say that she has pictures of her apt and some of her things...

CA's mother said it best (paraphrased) If Cindy doesn't believe in what KC says, then Caylee is dead. Well now that Caylee IS dead, CA can't bear to be a) WRONG and b) lose her daughter and dignity

 

[marla]

Yes, good call. CA surely would have tried to contact a sitter or nanny when KC was MIA with Caylee in tow.

You can see from the emails to and from brother Rick that everyone but CA will admit there is no nanny. CA will not answer rick about it only to say that she has pictures of her apt and some of her things...

CA's mother said it best (paraphrased) If Cindy doesn't believe in what KC says, then Caylee is dead. Well now that Caylee IS dead, CA can't bear to be a) WRONG and b) lose her daughter and dignity

That's the picture that turned out to be RM's apartment ..

 

[Chilly Willy]

If Cindy really felt that was the nanny's number why didn't she call her when she was looking for Casey and Caylee?
:waitasec:

"Hi Zanny, this Cindy, Casey's mom. Sorry to bother you but, we haven't seen Casey or Caylee for awhile and her car was impounded and we're trying to track her down. When was the last time you watched Caylee?"

Wouldn't that be the logical thing to do?

If you'd watched the interview, you'd see that Cindy only found the number on a scrap of paper tucked inside her address book a few days earlier.

 

[Peculiar Petunia]

LOL...So if zanny isn't a fictious person , then I guess that means Zach and Annabelle wouldn't be FICTIOUS either ? Hows about Juliet , Raquel , Gloria and Victor ? Did I miss anyone else ? IMO I think they all are fiction...almost as if they all are her make believe friends. Oh shoot , I forgot Samantha..the get away driver at JBP. Shame on me , how could I forget her , AFTERALL wasn't she the one who loaded the "kids" up while "Zanny" was teaching KC a lesson and handing KC the famous script.? It looks to me like if any of this crazy story were half way true that some of these people would have stepped forward by now. It wouldn't shock me at all , if some of these "characters" aren't her make believe friends from her childhood.

Anyone else notice that every.single.one of KC's "little friends" has a different first initial. Makes you wonder if she used a code book to keep them all straight in her lies.:liar:

 

[Searchfortruth]

Yes, good call. CA surely would have tried to contact a sitter or nanny when KC was MIA with Caylee in tow.

You can see from the emails to and from brother Rick that everyone but CA will admit there is no nanny. CA will not answer rick about it only to say that she has pictures of her apt and some of her things...

CA's mother said it best (paraphrased) If Cindy doesn't believe in what KC says, then Caylee is dead. Well now that Caylee IS dead, CA can't bear to be a) WRONG and b) lose her daughter and dignity

This is what I have always wondered, between Cindy's daughter and her dignity, which is more important to her ? My guess is that it's her dignity.

 

[brownflower]

If you'd watched the interview, you'd see that Cindy only found the number on a scrap of paper tucked inside her address book a few days earlier.

A few days earlier from when? Also, someone is watching your grandchild that lives under your roof and you keep their number folded on a scrap paper tucked inside your address book?

Whatever happened to posting a list of important numbers on the fridge or by the phone?

She's a nurse for goodness sake! IMO she should and does know the importance of having a list of emergency contact numbers.

 

[sindydee]

If Cindy really felt that was the nanny's number why didn't she call her when she was looking for Casey and Caylee?
:waitasec:

"Hi Zanny, this Cindy, Casey's mom. Sorry to bother you but, we haven't seen Casey or Caylee for awhile and her car was impounded and we're trying to track her down. When was the last time you watched Caylee?"

Wouldn't that be the logical thing to do?

She probably did call the number and it probably didnt connect as it was made up. So she probably put it back in the address book and pretended she had forgot about it.

 

[heartfortruth]

This is what I have always wondered, between Cindy's daughter and her dignity, which is more important to her ? My guess is that it's her dignity.

"DIGNITY"?

 

[wendi]

I thought this was interesting, a reporter asks Cindy some questions about the "nanny"...

QUESTION: Hey, Cindy, did Caylee ever talk about Zenaida ? Did she ever say the baby-sitter's name?

CINDY: She talked about her puppy all the time.

QUESTION: Did she ever say the baby-sitters name?

CINDY: I never asked her about the baby-sitter. I mean, when I got her, it was all about her being home and getting love and playing and just doing stuff, so there was never a reason. She talked about her puppy all the time.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,402098,00.html

iF i WAS le i WOULD HAVE ASKED WAS THE PUPPY'S NAME zANNY..jk:bang:

 

[brownflower]

She probably did call the number and it probably didnt connect as it was made up. So she probably put it back in the address book and pretended she had forgot about it.

IMO if she had called the Nanny she would have said so. Either in her 911 call or in one of the interviews. She never once stated: "I'll called Zanny the Nanny and the number was disconnected." IMO there woiuld be no harm in making this statement. It would show she was searching for her daughter and/or Caylee (depending on the timeline) and it would collaborate Casey's story that Zanny had changed her phone number.

But then again, IMO nothing Cindy does makes sense to me. Unless you factor in that she's hidning something. :waitasec: