CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #11

[SCHMAE]

Princess, they've called a search between MR's house and the Walmart area and that's got a lot of us speculating as to why and what. Also they said in the search to not bring children or young adults because it is a criminal investigation and that's got a lot of us worried they believe there is something there that would upset a child if he saw it .

 

[DylansMom34]

A scenario I could see as possible:

Dylan arrives at Durango airport and texts his mom at 7:06 p.m. Sunday night. He isn't happy about spending any time with Dad for whatever reason(s) and ends the text to mom with the "scowling" emoticon. Dylan then asks Dad to drop him off at his friend's house, Dad says no, and tells Dylan that he isn't going to be going to the friends until Monday morning. Dylan texts his friends about the change in plans and then lays some attitude on Dad.

Dad stops at WalMart and Dylan walks around with him, grumpy and with more attitude. Dad stops at McDonald's for some dinner. Dylan continues having attitude. Dad is getting increasingly annoyed with Dylan's teenage attitude. At some point around 8:00 Dad takes Dylan's cell phone away from Dylan and breaks it and throws it away (maybe in a dumpster, out the truck window, etc.). Dylan goes into full on freakout mode.

The battle of wills becomes more of a physical altercation. From there, I think it just goes from bad to worse....

This scenario is my opinion only...

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

Obviously if they thought Dylan took off on his own to try to get to Bayfield they would not be searching Florida Rd.

 

[SuziQ]

It sounds like they fear he may be. Has anyone else ever seen LE say no children or young people should participate? I think I remember in the Jessica Ridgeway case seeing kids and young people participate in volunteer searches. Maybe they are just being cautious.

This is usually the case. LE carries alot of liability if something happens to one of their searchers. They certainly do not need to end up with an injured or lost child on top of what they are already dealing with. Children also don't need to be traumitized by finding a dead body. Children could also come across and contaminate evidence. Volunteer searchers are more and more discouraged as it's problimatic at trial when evidence found is presented. One of the volunteer searchers could also be the perp.

 

[Angelo]

Is it really that unreasonable to suspect someone of a violent irrational act when they have a history of acting violently irrational?

No.


In addition to the above the facts add the facts that Dylan's cell phone went off on Sunday night. Dylan has not been seen since Sunday night. Dylan has not been heard from since Sunday night. The story that Dylan would not wake up to go to his friend's house on Monday morning when the evidence shows Dylan wanted to be with his friends.

 

[aust amateur slueth]

something that also stands out to me, bear with me for a minute

Dylans text to his Mom was at 7.06pm, probably not long after he arrived, less than an hour later his phone stops pinging.

We have proof that Dylan was at at the airport and at walmart, what we don't have proof of is McD's.

how long (driving time) is the drive from the airport to walmart? and how long from walmart to McD's?

I'm thinking that something happened at walmart, possibly as they returned to the vehicle, maybe thats when MR told Dylan it was too late to go to his friends and it esaclated as they left.

 

[Bravo]

I do know from other cases Volunteer searchers have to sign it. Anyone know if they have to sign a waiver? Meaning if an injury were to occur etc.

 

[gryphon]

how long (driving time) is the drive from the airport to walmart? and how long from walmart to McD's?

maybe 30 minutes from airport to walmart and maybe 10 minutes to McDonalds.

 

[ttcRider]

A scenario I could see as possible:

Dylan arrives at Durango airport and texts his mom at 7:06 p.m. Sunday night. He isn't happy about spending any time with Dad for whatever reason(s) and ends the text to mom with the "scowling" emoticon. Dylan then asks Dad to drop him off at his friend's house, Dad says no, and tells Dylan that he isn't going to be going to the friends until Monday morning. Dylan texts his friends about the change in plans and then lays some attitude on Dad.

Dad stops at WalMart and Dylan walks around with him, grumpy and with more attitude. Dad stops at McDonald's for some dinner. Dylan continues having attitude. Dad is getting increasingly annoyed with Dylan's teenage attitude. At some point around 8:00 Dad takes Dylan's cell phone away from Dylan and breaks it and throws it away (maybe in a dumpster, out the truck window, etc.). Dylan goes into full on freakout mode.

The battle of wills becomes more of a physical altercation. From there, I think it just goes from bad to worse....

This scenario is my opinion only...

Very similar to my thinking as well. I wish we knew more about that morning before the dad left for his errands. The cereal bowl.. did dad eat that morning too? Were there dirty dishes from him as well?

 

[ttcRider]

This is usually the case. LE carries alot of liability if something happens to one of their searchers. They certainly do not need to end up with an injured or lost child on top of what they are already dealing with. Children also don't need to be traumitized by finding a dead body. Children could also come across and contaminate evidence. Volunteer searchers are more and more discouraged as it's problimatic at trial when evidence found is presented. One of the volunteer searchers could also be the perp.

I dont understand why a parent would even suggest their child participate in a search like this. Its just common sense that its probably not a good idea. But then I dont understand a lot about parents these days.

 

[aust amateur slueth]

maybe 30 minutes from airport to walmart and maybe 10 minutes to McDonalds.

hmm so 7.06 add 30 minutes takes us to 7.36, Dylans phone stopped 24 minutes after that.

I wonder how long they were in Walmart for?


I'm not so sure they did go to McD's

 

[SuziQ]

But, was MR the only one that had that same history? I am not accusing anyone else of hurting DR, but I don't think it can be based on that history alone. Does that make sense? jmo

In reference to who had motive, means and opportunity and most likely suspect? MR's is the only one relevant as far as I'm concerned.

I get so tired of people who act shocked at being looked at as a suspect. All I can think is, if you don't want people to be suspicious of you when someone disappears or turn up dead, then maybe you should not have been acting like you could disappear or kill someone for all those years. I don't know if his past behavior makes MR guilty. But I certainly don't feel sorry for him because people look at him sideways. And I don't blame anyone for putting him at the top of their suspect list.

And here's the kicker, they usually are the guilty ones.

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

No.


In addition to the above the facts add the facts that Dylan's cell phone went off on Sunday night. Dylan has not been seen since Sunday night. Dylan has not been heard from since Sunday night. The story that Dylan would not wake up to go to his friend's house on Monday morning when the evidence shows Dylan wanted to be with his friends.

These are the things that keep nagging at me.

 

[Linda7NJ]

I do know from other cases Volunteer searchers have to sign it. Anyone know if they have to sign a waiver? Meaning if an injury were to occur etc.

There was no waiver, just sign in sheet with contact info


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[SCHMAE]

These are the things that keep nagging at me.

Add to that LE's statement that Dylan had not been seen since sunday night, which to me at the time meant they discounted MR's statement he saw him on Monday morning asleep.

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

hmm so 7.06 add 30 minutes takes us to 7.36, Dylans phone stopped 24 minutes after that.

I wonder how long they were in Walmart for?


I'm not so sure they did go to McD's

I don't think it's impossible that at some point Dad took Dylan's phone away from him. Say they are sitting at McD's eating and Dylan is ignoring Dad and texting away, did Dad get irritated and take the phone away? This is something I might do if I hadn't seen my 13 year old child in a few months and they were obsessing over their phone.

But we have a picture of Dylan at the airport and a picture at Walmart but no info about McDonalds? Maybe this is where the story gets a little questionable? Does McDonalds have camera's? Any eye witnesses see them at McDonalds?

 

[Linda7NJ]

I dont understand why a parent would even suggest their child participate in a search like this. Its just common sense that its probably not a good idea. But then I dont understand a lot about parents these days.

In Autumn's case there were lots of teen volunteers.


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[aust amateur slueth]

I'd say the search location means theres a chance someones video could have showed something that put paid to the monday story.

 

[Dee10]

Might have went through the drive-through at McDonalds.

 

[aust amateur slueth]

In Autumn's case there were lots of teen volunteers.


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yes, considering the rubbishing teens cop from the older generations they often seem to be caring and helpful, like the kids that came up with the system to look out for the younger kids after Jessica Ridgeway disappeared.