CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #44 *ARREST*

[lindaromas]

One could approach KB's front door from the other side, across the back lot. You would have about a 3-4 foot wall or fence, but it doesn't look that difficult.

As I mentioned, the neighbor's camera would likely be aimed 180 degrees away from KB's front door.

I'll bet PF spotted the neighbor's camera. It's right on top of the TV dish. Not that difficult to see. If he wanted to, he could put the black tote over that back wall, walk around the adjoining unit and load it into his truck without being in camera range

The camera may not pick up someone walking to the door, but I bet a vehicle driving by sets it off, probably why the only time it recorded was when a vehicle drove by versus someone walking to the door from a different angle.

 

[MsBetsy]

Getting back to the drugs/poison for coffee.
The drugs used are likely schedule one. Meaning highly regulated.
She can't as a nurse just get any drugs,any time legally.
So she either
A. Stole them from pharmacy,or wherever they are kept.
B. slipped patients fake pills she swapped for ambien, or whatever drug she chose.
C. She forged Dr.s signature.
All of the above I believe are federal crimes. I could be wrong.
So even she got a sweetheart deal for Kelsey's murder which sucks, does not mean she can't get nailed for the above forementioned.
Remember they couldn't get Capone for murder,or raqeteering, they got him on tax invasion,and put him away for a long time.
MOO

When my mom was in the hospital one of her nurses suddenly got arrested for stealing painkillers. She had been taking them gradually for about three years before they noticed or were able to figure out who it was.
So it's not impossible that KK could have taken pills and they were not aware. If she did, I hope they can find proof. Imo

 

[AgeofAquaruis]

When my mom was in the hospital one of her nurses suddenly got arrested for stealing painkillers. She had been taking them gradually for about three years before they noticed or were able to figure out who it was.
So it's not impossible that KK could have taken pills and they were not aware. If she did, I hope they can find proof. Imo

Sorry about your mom. The pain she must have had. Ugggh.

 

[SandyQLS]

@Tippy Lynn

Your wonderful timeline has a problem in the section below. Unfortunately the tweets during Prelim also don't exactly match the AW. But that's not as important. Here's the problematic section of the timeline in italics:

PF was seen on Walmart & Williams Furniture Store surveillance, and on Arlo camera by KB’s neighbor caught KB, baby K and PF at KB’s door at 1:34 p.m.

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KB, baby K and PF were actually all seen on neighbor's surveiilance camera "around 1:00PM". Ref:

Sam Kraemer‏ @SamKraemerTV
State gives him another still of that neighbor’s surveillance. He says it shows Berreth, Kaylee, Frazee & her flowers out front of Kelsey’s door around 1 p.m.

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The AW item#12 states that an individual matching PF's description was later seen entering KB's residence at approximately 1324. ( 1:24PM )
Ref: AW pdf

Tweets during the Prelim state 1:34PM , just a ten minute difference. Ref:

Ashley Franco‏ @AshleyKKTV 1m1 minute ago
Commander says#PatrickFrazee was seen going toward #KelseyBerreth townhome. A neighbors home surveillance has pictures of#PatrickFrazee at Kelsey’s door. That was around 1:34 pm the day she went missing.

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PF was at the WP Walmart 1254 - 1317 per their surveillance camera. Ref: AW item #11

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The wording in @Tippy Lynn timeline blurs 2 of PF's 3 appearances at KB door on 11/22 into a single event (the around 1:00PM with KB&baby, and the 1:24/1:34PM event with PF alone).

Thanks for all your hard work, @Tippy Lynn

 

[Seattle1]

The aunt drove with KK to Colorado for the coffee stalking event? Where can I read about that?

I believe it's in the arrest affidavit, and included in KK's plea.

KK has two aunts: "Auntie K" resides in Colo, and sat in the car parked in alley when KK took coffee to KB. Agent Slater said she Aunt K was unaware.

It was an unnamed Aunt in Idaho that drove KK to Boise to retain lawyer just before KK made deal with DA to cooperate.

Live blog: Patrick Frazee appears in court for preliminary hearing

 

[MsBetsy]

Snipped for brevity and BBM

Re. the posssible drugs in the coffee drink/poisoning : Agreed. I wouldn't put anything past her.
It's hard to imagine any hospital or clinic welcoming her with open arms, now.
Unless she lies to them.

Can't imagine myself or my loved one in her care.
What a chilling scenario.

I don't know what it's like everywhere else, but in NY a convicted felon cannot work in a hospital at all, even in the cafeteria.
I'm pretty sure her nursing career is behind her now. Imo

 

[Artis]

Respectfully snipped and bolded by me.

Hold the phone, sister.

If KK left Idaho at 6:30 p.m. on November 23, and arrived in Woodland Park, CO, at 7:30 a.m. the next morning, November 24, there is no way she stayed anywhere for the night, let alone Greeley, CO.

What am I missing?

I just double-checked Google maps, and driving straight to Woodland Park from Twin Falls (via Greeley) is 11 hours, 26 minutes. And KK would have to drive THROUGH Woodland Park and on to Florissant to get the keys to KB's townhouse from the gate at PF's place, and then BACK to Woodland Park. Adding another hour plus or minus to KK's drive time.

An fyi: Driving straight from Idaho via Salt Lake City and Grand Junction to WP, which would take a driver through Florissant on the way to WP, is 11 hours 45 minutes.

Either route, I don't see how KK stays anywhere for the night.

This may have been addressed (I'm behind) but good catch. I saw that about Greeley, earlier, and it didn't make sense to me so I just dismissed it (dumb!). No way she spent the night anywhere. If she stopped it was for gas, food, bathroom break and that's it.

 

[MsBetsy]

Sorry about your mom. The pain she must have had. Ugggh.

Thank you. That particular nurse was her favorite. It felt like a betrayal.
I wouldn't be surprised if KK's ex- patients feel the same way. And what she did was far worse!

 

[gliving]

I can't find where PF had any contact with KK during her three murder attempts. Wondering how this might affect the solicitation charges.

First she's with her Aunt in Woodland Park. They have a beer then go buy two coffees. KK shows up at KB's door wanting to make friends and playdates.

Second time, she says PF left a steel pipe by his fence gate. KK goes to KB's home but chickens out when she hears a dog bark.

Third time, KK brings a aluminum bat from her house and sits outside KB's house. Again she chickens out.

No where does KK describe meeting with PF while she's in Woodland Park. I'll keep looking.

Also, it's reported that after these 3 attempts, PF doesn't contact her again until Nov. 21. Hopefully phone records will show more.

 

[Seattle1]

This may have been addressed (I'm behind) but good catch. I saw that about Greeley, earlier, and it didn't make sense to me so I just dismissed it (dumb!). No way she spent the night anywhere. If she stopped it was for gas, food, bathroom break and that's it.

The date was later corrected by reporter to Sept 23 (Not Nov 23). It was during KK's earlier trip to Co that she spent the night in Greeley before continuing on to WP.

 

[crhedBngr]

Can you all just imagine- an RN who's job it is to oversee the health and welfare of critically ill pre-op patients, who's moral
compass is set so low. What else has she slimed up or neglected?
Sterilize the operating instruments- check, not done properly?
Give patient pre-op medication, check- lied and not done properly.
The degree to which she could have harmed patients by her
rampant immorality and low character and lying and dishonesty is
beyond our imagination. Her employer should be worried about
patient lawsuits as I can picture her causing much malpractice.
moo.

THIS^^^^

I was searching for possible complaints against her, then got busy and forgot about doing so. I'll see what I can find.

ETA: @MemPat : Prayers for you, and hope you are feeling okay.

And a very good morning to All.

 

[Gardener1850]

And then possibly ate pizza.

Courtroom updates: Preliminary hearing for Patrick Frazee, who is accused of killing Kelsey Berreth
After the fire, Slater said Lee told him Frazee told her to take a nap. She told Slater he brought her two slices of pizza and an Ibuprofen because she had a headache.

BBM

Maybe that's exactly why he used that method.
MOO

What is it with CO murderers and pizza?
CW chowed down on pizza after murdering his family too.

 

[skyedaze]

And then possibly ate pizza.

Courtroom updates: Preliminary hearing for Patrick Frazee, who is accused of killing Kelsey Berreth
After the fire, Slater said Lee told him Frazee told her to take a nap. She told Slater he brought her two slices of pizza and an Ibuprofen because she had a headache.

BBM

LOL, OMG don't get me started with the pizza!

 

[crhedBngr]

Getting back to the drugs/poison for coffee.
<snipped for brevity>
All of the above I believe are federal crimes. I could be wrong.
So even she got a sweetheart deal for Kelsey's murder which sucks, does not mean she can't get nailed for the above forementioned.
Remember they couldn't get Capone for murder,or raqeteering, they got him on tax invasion,and put him away for a long time.
MOO

RSABBM

Excellent point! Let's hope so.

 

[Herat]

I am supposing that KK walked the road from the Woodland Park Community Center to KB's and stepped over the little wall at the end of the walkway. See Zillow photo #2.
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Woodland Park Community Center to KB's - Google Maps

Sam Kraemer‏ @SamKraemerTV
When she arrived, Kenney went to Frazee’s home and picked up a set of keys for Berreth’s phone left at the gate to Frazee’s. She parked at the Woodland Park Community Center and walked to Berreth’s home. @KOAA #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee #KrystalKenney

Thanks for those maps. I would think PF might have told her how to approach the house to avoid the cameras, but she had a lot of plastic bags to remove. And from her acccounts of the timing, she would have left KB's about noon. Would she have parked along E Lake blvd & carried at least 6 plastic bags across the back there to load the car? That might very well have been noticed.

I think she must have driven up the alley and parked on the opposite side of the parking pad from KB's. Then removed the full bags over the back and away from the neighbor's camera.

 

[skyedaze]

Thanks for those maps. I would think PF might have told her how to approach the house to avoid the cameras, but she had a lot of plastic bags to remove. And from her acccounts of the timing, she would have left KB's about noon. Would she have parked along E Lake blvd & carried at least 6 plastic bags across the back there to load the car? That might very well have been noticed.

I think she must have driven up the alley and parked on the opposite side of the parking pad from KB's. Then removed the full bags over the back and away from the neighbor's camera.

She said she put the bags by KBs car and then got the car she borrowed. That's why the dogs hit on KBs car....the bags were next to it earlier.

 

[Herat]

Hmm. KK said that PF was going to dispose of Kelsey's post fire remains in a dump or a river. I am not convinced she didn't take those remains and they are in Idaho. The car that KK borrowed to go to Colorado should be examined very carefully. I have a feeling it wasn't.

The Snake River gorge is the predominant river gorge in area of Hansen, ID (where I believe the property was where KKL lived with ex and children). The Snake River gorge is approximately 2, 400 feet deep at this point. Going to be very very difficult to search that area.

 

[margarita25]

What is it with CO murderers and pizza?
CW chowed down on pizza after murdering his family too.

(Get me outta here, there’s something in the water..)

(ETA: Maybe it’s in the pizza!)

 

[MyBelle]

None of this makes sense to me. Why didn't PF just shoot KB the night she was getting him stomach meds? Or lure her out of the house TG day and shoot her. The baseball bat and that much blood screams of a woman doing the murder. I hope they gave KK a lie detector text with 2 of the questions being...did you commit the murder and were you present at the murder. It's a good thing I won't be on the jury because with my thinking...PF might easily walk free. I would hate for that to happen but I think KK was the puppet master. Hopefully there won't be anyone else on the jury that thinks like me.

KK didn't speak to LE until she had an attorney. No way would he allow a lie detector. All it takes is one juror to have doubts.

JMO

 

[Steelhead]

What is it with CO murderers and pizza?
CW chowed down on pizza after murdering his family too.

It’s easy, convenient, delicious, and nutritious!

 

[Herat]

Thank you, I see the satellite, but I don't see a surveillance camera in that photo. Can you point it out?

Left side of the picture, the rectangular white box above the black satellite dish