Found Deceased CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *CW GUILTY* #46

[Nessa131]

Has there ever been a crime such as this that has gotten resolved this quickly? I have been racking my brain but i can not think of any!

 

[AbbyG]

Latest article;
Why Chris Watts decided to plead guilty.

How Chris Watts Decided to Plead to Killing Family: 'Eventually He Acknowledged His Life Was Over'

The tone of this article is so strange; the source seems to like the murderer. Calls him smart, seems to suggest CW is a stand-up guy for pleading guilty to the horrendous murders. Very off-putting.

 

[MassGuy]

Has there ever been a crime such as this that has gotten resolved this quickly? I have been racking my brain but i can not think of any!

It’s incredibly rare. I think that we will learn things during sentencing that will explain why he made the decision to plea.

I’ve said it before, but I strongly suspect that there is something akin to a “smoking gun.”

The evidence was already more than strong enough for most of the public to be absolutely convinced of his guilt, but for him to see that, I think there has to be more than we aren’t yet privy to.

 

[MCDRAW]

Omg, I agree 100% that he did this ONLY to save himself from the same fate he chose for his wife and children. The man committed this crime and then lied to the world about it trying to save his own sorry @**. If he gave a crap about her family or his own, he would have never been able to annihilate his wife and children in the first place.
He’s a selfish, stupid murderer.

I'm one of those that thought he might have pled because his father asked him to. But I knew if he did it, because his father asked him to, it was for selfish reasons. I knew he wouldn't plead guilty to protect Shannan and I knew he didn't care anything about her family. I disagree that he wouldn't have killed them had he cared about his family. He obviously cared about his father, either what he thought or how he felt, because he asked to tell him first before he told the police his story. Now how that conversation went and what his father's advice was, I have no clue. Regardless, it's pretty obvious that he is very selfish.

 

[PrimeSuspect]

Do you think the AP will ever come forward? I’d sure like to hear what she has to say.

I hope so too, she may have played a significant part in his downfall but I don't want to give her credit though, if it isn't due.

I would like to know about the health documents CW wanted to keep out of the state's hands, it opens up so many possibilities!
The big question I would like answered, were the girls killed before Shanann arrived home?
Actually, the more I think about it, the more questions I come up with. I will have to be patient again, wait for the news but I'm sure we can still speculate, there's some great minds here!

 

[Pi Thoughts]

Latest article;
Why Chris Watts decided to plead guilty.

How Chris Watts Decided to Plead to Killing Family: 'Eventually He Acknowledged His Life Was Over'

I found this interesting from your link:

“Speaking with reporters on Tuesday, not long after Chris pleaded guilty to nine charges, including first-degree murder, Weld County District Attorney Michael Rourke said that they were approached several weeks ago by Chris’ defense team about a possible plea — not the other way around.”

BBM

 

[Thepoet]

The tone of this article is so strange; the source seems to like the murderer. Calls him smart, seems to suggest CW is a stand-up guy for pleading guilty to the horrendous murders. Very off-putting.

I agree, but it is People. LOL!

 

[NuttMegg]

I am thinking AP has something to do with this partial motive, and cooperated to help bring this about. I cannot imagine she believed her actions would contribute to the death of an innocent woman and her innocent and precious children. If she is human, unlike him, she must feel horrendous guilt and sadness for the part she unwittingly played in this. She knew he was a married man with children but who knows what stories he told, and who knows if she inadvertently helped drive him to this.

i said before that i tend to give sympathy, he could have given her quite a song and dance, and hormones sometimes have a life of their own. I bet she cooperated fully, and cw had to know she was spilling the beans regarding everything he ever said to her and about his wife. That testimony would probably have been damning.

 

[Johnny1181]

I found this interesting from your link:

“Speaking with reporters on Tuesday, not long after Chris pleaded guilty to nine charges, including first-degree murder, Weld County District Attorney Michael Rourke said that they were approached several weeks ago by Chris’ defense team about a possible plea — not the other way around.”

BBM

This was particularly pleasing to me as it was posted here many times that the hearing must be regarding a plea the prosecutor offered to reduced charges as a result of the autopsy results and sealed HIPPA filing. It was put forth many times they must contain damning evidence against Shanann.

Seems to have been exactly the opposite. And the defense had nothing at all to defend the FA. Guilty to all charges, as charged.

 

[RosalindaA]

I've not long seen the news of CW's total admission of guilt in the murders of his family. Just wanted to add my thanks to Nickole Atkinson for her very important actions, to Colorado303 for being here and all the other posters who steadfastly stood up for sanity in this case again and again.

Very glad that CW has at last retracted his despicable lies against Shannan. I hope that the people who believed them will take a little bit of time to think about why they chose to believe him. I do however respect the views of some posters here who wanted to wait for the trial and all the evidence, although for me there was already more than enough. We know what happens in family annihilator cases largely and the sort of lies they tell and excuses they make.

Although I think the details of the murders and the events leading up to them will be very hard to stomach, I think there is a public interest in examining these cases and the psychology of the murderers. I was surprised by how little really scientific research exists on them. I watched the Luis Toledo and Adam Matos trials trying to understand what process they underwent to commit such horrendous violence. Of course many FAs commit suicide at the time of the annihilation and so cannot be studied and of course the surviving ones are likely to lie. But I think it's really important to try and get a better understanding of what is going on in the weeks/months before these tragic events and Shannan's comments about CW being more distant and withdrawn I think are very significant observations.
With those FAs who also kill themselves I think there may well be an undiagnosed depressive psychosis in some cases. We still need to encourage men who may be experiencing isolation/rejection/financial stress/family breakdown to seek help which often they don't. I don't think CW falls into this category, he simply wanted ""freedom".

I personally doubt therefore that CW will commit suicide, I think he falls into the group of murderers whose minds have an amazing degree of self-serving plasticity. I think, regretfully he will still, even after his admissions, have his supporters and that will keep him going. That's another reason why I hope the details of exactly when and what he did emerge. We have to confront what is happening here if we have any hope of preventing future tragedies.

Just also want to reiterate here Colorado303's point about the best way we can remember Shannan and her babies is to be a friend to those people we know who may be in bad situations. We gain knowledge by following cases and we may see the risks quicker and more clearly than others. And we can support the charities that provide the support for victims of violence within the home, they save lives.

 

[mtnlites]

This was not a complicated crime, as has often been stated. There was no "other side" (ie, his side) to the story. There were no hidden facts that would corroborate the tale he spun. SW wasn't faking her illnesses. She wasn't carrying an illegitimate child. She didn't have MBP. He victimized her once, but she has been repeatedly re-victimized several times over since.

Sadly, this was a crime like many before. Macdonald, Longo, Coleman...At its core, all along it was a case of a family anhilator wiping out his entire family for what were likely selfish reasons.

Justice is going to be served, at least.

 

[Bluebythec]

He was too much of a coward to face the same fate he had no problem inflicting on his beautiful family. All because he wanted easy, carefree sex. <modsnip - unnecessary comment>

 

[bonjoviblonde]

I agree, but it is People. LOL!

IMO they seem to be fans of Jeffrey MacDonald as well. Their coverage of him always has "an odd tone".

 

[SweetPeas56]

Has there ever been a crime such as this that has gotten resolved this quickly? I have been racking my brain but i can not think of any!

I really feel NUA was instrumental in this quick resolution. She robbed CW of time he desperately needed to stage their disappearance and get rid of evidence. Perhaps he still would have bungled his cover up and would have been caught. But maybe it would not have been so solid a case. Casey Anthony's biggest helper was time. This isn't the thread to discuss witness testimony, so let's not go down that rabbit hole. The time Caylee was missing but nobody knew it, evidence was going who-knows-where, and the body was decomposing. I think Emily Glass may have walked as well, due to the amount of time passed between Lucas's actual demise, the report of him missing, and the retrieval of his remains. All that time only benefited the killers. NUA stole that time from CW, and I'm glad.

 

[Johnny1181]

So glad this is over and he will never see the light of day again. I am interested in the info that will come out at sentencing and after.
Thanks @gitana1 for all of your insights, knowledge, and tireless defense of Shanann against absurd accusations and for promoting reason and common sense in this case.

 

[NuttMegg]

The tone of this article is so strange; the source seems to like the murderer. Calls him smart, seems to suggest CW is a stand-up guy for pleading guilty to the horrendous murders. Very off-putting.

Absolutely! It seemed to leave open the idea that he wasn't really confessing, just that he was doing so as the lesser of 2 evils.....either cop a plea to something you didn't do, or...die. Clearly the source for that had a ring side seat and is sympathetic to cw. It almost seems like some sort of press representative for him.

 

[tmar]

Now that this 'Plea' has sunk in, I am feeling quite ill.
All the unpleasantness we experienced on this thread, what SW's family had to endure, clearly indicates the evil around us.
An entire loving, beautiful family has had their lives terminated by a horrid person.
I feel so much, for SW's family and friends, and hope somehow they will be blessed, in the future to 'carry on' with their lives after this tragedy.

 

[JudgeJudi]

This was the first case I've followed that involved the death of a child, let alone a mother, two children and an unborn child. I found it profoundly upsetting from the word go. I used to crawl into bed at 3 a.m. or even later and then lie awake sometimes until close to dawn going over everything in my mind. I know there were probably many of us who felt this way.

Last night, Oz time, I posted that maybe he was going to plead. I said that because up until we knew the status hearing was brought forward, it seemed to me that the defence were doing everything possible to slow the process down.

I only read a little while ago what has happened and to say I'm ecstatic would be a gross understatement. Knowing that Shanann has now been shown to be the totally innocent person most of us here always felt and believed makes me feel incredibly happy and also proud to be part of such a great and caring community who stand up for victims.

Knowing that the family has now achieved justice for Shanann, her daughters and Nico, I hope this will bring them some sort of peace if nothing else. It will also spare them the potential ugliness that a trial was bound to bring. I'm not one who believes in so-called closure, but I do know that while nothing can bring their much loved family back, eventually, and it will take a lot of time, I hope they will be able to remember the many happy memories that they shared together.

Shanann's family are people of grace and integrity and words can never express the sadness I feel for them. I'll never forget this case, ever.

 

[SweetPeas56]

This was particularly pleasing to me as it was posted here many times that the hearing must be regarding a plea the prosecutor offered to reduced charges as a result of the autopsy results and sealed HIPPA filing. It was put forth many times they must contain damning evidence against Shanann.

Seems to have been exactly the opposite. And the defense had nothing at all to defend the FA. Guilty to all charges, as charged.

I so agree. Glad to know I'm not alone in feeling satisfaction that they/he realized his guilty goose was cooked.

 

[MsBetsy]

I don't think he is stupid, I actually think his plan could have worked but things didn't go as he planned. His interview gave him away for sure. As soon as I saw his interview, I knew he had killed them.

I think his story alone shows how stupid he is. It was ridiculous and most people saw right through it from the start.