Found Deceased CO - Shanann Watts (34, dec.), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *Arrest* #3

[TTF14]

My guess is it was too physically difficult to also get her into the tank?

What do you guys anticipate will be COD? Hopefully gun and not stabbing. (Awful that a gunshot is even hoped for here). I’m scared he might have stabbed them to death

I'm leaning toward him drowning the girls and strangling SW .

 

[pocketaccent]

I'm not a professional, but I see Scott Peterson as being a sociopath/psychopath. He's never confessed and he put his wife's family through unbelievable hell with his many lies. They had to wait for four months before her body and the baby's body washed up in San Francisco Bay before they knew, for sure, that they had been murdered.

With CW, he tried to hide his heartless and hideous crime, and he gave bizarro interviews after to try to make people believe he had no idea what happened to his family. But unlike Scott Peterson, CW caved rather quickly. Is this a sign of genuine remorse and conscience, or did he cave because he was presented by LE with proof that he killed them and hid their bodies and he had no choice but to admit it?

I really don't know at this point.

Scott Peterson is highly manipulative, cunning, somewhat charming.
CW is none of those IMO. I wonder what his defense is going to be. Mental illness maybe?

 

[margarita25]

Scott Peterson is highly manipulative, cunning, somewhat charming.
CW is none of those IMO. I wonder what his defense is going to be. Mental illness maybe?

Again this is one of those gray areas for me (mental illness defenses)..I mean, just as in other types of cases, wouldn’t you haaaaaaave to be mentally ill to do something like this?

 

[HoldySi]

I went through her FB again and this time just clicked on "photos." Of course this is after it's become a memorial page and several photos have already been hidden/deleted, but, you can just scroll and scroll and all photos are from either Thrive conventions or luxurious Thrive vacations. I mean there are so many. And although CW is in some of those vacation photos, he's only in a small percentage. It does appear as though he was home with the kids during many of these trips. Additionally, in one of her previous posts (now hidden/deleted) she labeled CW as an introvert. Perhaps he was passive...perhaps he did tell her to go on all of these trips and never communicate how it really made him feel. Perhaps he bottled up jealousy, anger and resentment for so long that it eventually exploded. That can be a ticking time bomb and when it goes off, it's catastrophic. Could that maybe be it? I get so torn. From that interview afterwards there was NO affect there. Complete indifference is what I saw. I just don't know...

 

[Seattle1]

What was his specific duty at Anadarko? Sorry if mentioned already.

Yikes, just had a thought, do “family annihilators” ever assault other women I wonder? Iirc from the profile on WIRED UK, they are usually not known to LE.

MSM says he was an operator. I looked up operators at oil and gas companies and it seems they operate equipment like cranes or
equipment that helps assemble pipes.

I recall from the NC News reports from his hometown that CW was vocational trained mechanic. These skills would be good in field operations, and good possibility he worked around tanks, monitoring equip, etc. and had access. (Reminds me of last weeks ground operations employee that easily stole airplane, i.e., authorization to be around them).

 

[Dee Deforest]

I haven't decided if he's a psychopath or not but I do think he's a arrogant, narcissistic sociopath... I mean he got in front of the cameras and not only lied but did it with her scratches on his neck! He's just repulsive on so many levels..

 

[margarita25]

It’s odd, but it really seems that CW gives ZERO *advertiser censored*** about what happened, and even that he’s “caught” or so easily confessed. He doesn’t seem to care about anything, he is just completely apathetic.

I’m getting a distanced, apathetic, removed reading as well, moo.

 

[rashomon]

I don't think he hurt them at all, until that night. Are there other cases like this?

The Jeffrey MacDonald murder case comes to mind here.

 

[Davia18]

I feel there is defiantly a personality disorder

 

[margarita25]

I haven't decided if he's a psychopath or not but I do think he's a arrogant, narcissistic sociopath... I mean he got in front of the cameras and not only lied but did it with her scratches on his neck! He's just repulsive on so many levels..

I was looking for scratches, didn’t aee any? Guess I need to look/zoom better. If this is the case, LE would have noticed right away, of course.

 

[heed101]

Reminds me of John List..long time ago killed his wife, kids and mom supposedly due to financial pressures.

 

[Eclipse]

I'm leaning toward him drowning the girls and strangling SW .

I hope at least it was quick and they didn't see it coming- that in their last moments they weren't feeling terror and the little girls understanding that the father they seemed to trust and adore was a monster.

 

[CARIIS]

"reportedly confessed "

the words leave out to whom

it was the neighbors he confessed to imo

 

[RavenCC2020]

Instagram photo showing how both of them lost weight from Dec. 2015 to Dec 2016.

She was focused on becoming healthier and more attractive, and developing a lot of social contacts/support through the MLM... could be a contributing factor to him feeling like he was losing power in the relationship.

Thrive Healthy Fit Mom on Instagram: “It's been an amazing 11 months Thrivin! Thrive has been us so much, the benefits are endless! From weight management, energy, better…”

Agree he felt he was being left behind. Honestly in his case he looked better on the chunkier side. He kind of looks skeletal in his face now and not as healthy looking as before. She looks great. She obviously had just had a baby though so she would have been shedding those lbs without using thrive. This is where I think promoting these products are actually pretty dangerous especially to young people who may be seeing them.

Fitness today is kind of big business and out of control. It amazes me how people who don't actively fast walk, jog, belong to a gym, eat gluten free, all organic etc etc etc are now the ones living on the edges of what is acceptable behavior. LOL Really is crazy. I agree one should eat healthy and be as fit as necessary but I see way too many examples of this being taken to the extremes these days. I even have family members that are this way. I laugh at them and get eye rolls in return because I just don't get it. Yeah, I get it. I also believe in moderation too and NOT keeping up with the Jones' in every single aspect of your life. Be an individual. I think this is the other negative of SM...everyone wants to show a life that is "acceptable" these days instead of just living their life as they wish to and not concerning themselves with what other people think.

It's no wonder that depression and suicide is so prevelent among younger people today. With this SM obsession and constant pressure to live a certain standard which is really unrealistic and unsustainable, it is no wonder many are falling into depression. Today one must be in "control" of everything, their weight through diet, their minds through meditation and or yoga, exercise through some extremely rigorous programs that in fact make basic training come of as a vacation, to being the BEST educated, living in the best home, best schools, take the best trips. What an impossible merry go round. Thank goodness I am not on it.

 

[dms]

The financial angle is equally baffling to me-I live in West Virginia and I guess have an innately Appalachian frugality that gives me an absolute abhorrence of overly extravagant living, so I can't see getting in such a financial bind. .

We've had very different experiences of the same state, I think. Or that innate frugality is fading over generations.

 

[KathrynL]

Reminds me of John List..long time ago killed his wife, kids and mom supposedly due to financial pressures.

I thought of him too, yesterday. Mild mannered, boring kind of guy and, IIRC, had big financial troubles.

 

[Dee Deforest]

I was looking for scratches, didn’t aee any? Guess I need to look/zoom better. If this is the case, LE would have noticed right away, of course.

He definitely has some scratchy red places on his neck. <modsnip - source not MSM>

 

[cass523]

Watts case raises questions about Colorado's lack of fetal homicide law

https://www.coloradoan.com/story/news/2018/08/17/christopher-watts-case-raises-questions-colorado-lack-fetal-homicide-law/1020881002/

 

[CARIIS]

The reports have been consistent that he confessed and said he would lead LE to the bodies. He was arrested and LE eventually located the bodies. Later reports indicated his family coming in on Wednesday prompted him to go to LE and confess.

I'm betting Andarko has vast tracts of land, much of which is not covered by security cameras. Without specific info it would be hard to know where to look.

but

the allegedly confessed

or

reportedly confessed

has to mean not directly to LE no?

 

[borndem]

Interestingly he has been hired as an expert for the defense in 60% of his 50 times he has testified.
Max Wachtel, Ph.D. :: JurisPro Expert Witness Directory :: Colorado

Thanks for the link!
In the article, he lists having written
I am the author of Sociopaths & Psychopaths: A Crisis of Conscience and Empathy (2017), and The One Rule For Boys: How Empathy And Emotional Understanding Will Improve Just About Everything For Your Son (2014).

Max Wachtel, Ph.D. :: JurisPro Expert Witness Directory :: Colorado

But I can't recall him mentioning psychopath or sociopath at all in that interview -- I assume because he will be an expert witness for the defense...

I saw the disorder in CW all over the place. Stone-faced, unemotional, etc., not even faking that he was distressed & loved his family more than anything. The rocking back & forth was also interesting, along with the "closed" body language. Smooooooth dude.
We've seen so many of those in these threads, we can recognize it in most cases.
And this man is one of them. IMHO.