Still Missing CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee Co, 10 May 2020 *arrest* #90

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I am reading thru the call logs and I am confused. It appears that Barry called Suzanne several times on the evening of 5/9. Can someone correct me if I am not interpreting them correctly. If they were home having a wonderful evening why would there be outgoing phone calls to Suzanne?
 
Is anyone else just a little dazed by the portrait of Barry that's emerging? Not the blustering, answer-for-everything Barry that we've seen from the beginning, but the godly family man who seems to think that it was Suzanne's job to adore him. Meet his needs. Accept his explanations. Live in some kind of childlike gratitude for the money he provided for her without question. He refuses discussions, leaves when he decides he's upset, makes himself unreachable. I think he believes he did what he had to do.

I feel sick.

JMO
Just like he has his daughters serving his needs now.

There’s nothing more frustrating that dealing with someone who walks out when ever the argument turns to something they don’t want to discuss. Although Suzanne may have been frustrated, she was probably glad he was gone for however long he stayed away.
 
I am reading thru the call logs and I am confused. It appears that Barry called Suzanne several times on the evening of 5/9. Can someone correct me if I am not interpreting them correctly. If they were home having a wonderful evening why would there be outgoing phone calls to Suzanne?
MOO maybe he was trying to find her phone.
 
I agree justtrish.:):):)
An expert, clearly explaining, so easily understood by everyone, would be ideal.

But the Defence's technique of questioning will present doubts, by presenting contrary suggestions, their own research on information introducing different scenarios, making one wonder.

Having just spent weeks going through the Plunder PH transcripts from day one an two, if E&N behave the same way in the trial, the Jurors will not be fooled. They sound like idiots who can't stay organized. Much of it intended to waste time so more witnesses wouldn't make it to the stand.
 
An Apology.
Just for clarity, what you're referencing with California are not attempts 'secede from the union,' they're almost all attempts to split the state into multiple states, say Northern and Southern California.
@O.Incandenza Thank you very much for bringing this to my attention, prompting me to look further.
Regardless, my fault. Sorry for the misinformation about California.

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* I learned about attempts to "to bisect, trisect or dissect it into six smaller states." bbm Instead relying on a short blurb from my online search, I should have read (at least some of) the earlier article.
From same website, Cali. State Library, different article.

https://www.library.ca.gov/collections/online-exhibits/timeline/
 
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Curious. What makes you think Barry’s lawyers are looking out for his daughters?
It’s a fact you can have the world watching, but a manipulating narcissist will know how to get to them. Emotional scars can last a lifetime.
Gut feeling that is all. I personally think Barry loves his daughters deeply. I think his lawyers are well aware of that.I personally think they are old enough to understand relationships and marriages can hit the rocks. If they want to support their father through this it does not bother me one bit. Now that I have read some of Suzanne’s texts I don’t think he is the complete master manipulator some people have grabbed onto. I think he has entitlement issues but he did not marry a woman who could take him down a few notches and Suzanne realized late in the marriage they were going in different directions. She probably enjoyed the benefits of their marriage for a long time. He knew and told LE when he put the girls in the middle of one of his and Suzanne’s arguments and Suzanne was furious he realized he should not have done that. But he would not be the first parent to make the mistake of using their children in a marital argument. I am not worried about their safety and time will tell how they handle the trial but they are probably stronger than some want to give credit. And that is all the not relevant psycho analysis I can do for the night lol.
 
I am reading thru the call logs and I am confused. It appears that Barry called Suzanne several times on the evening of 5/9. Can someone correct me if I am not interpreting them correctly. If they were home having a wonderful evening why would there be outgoing phone calls to Suzanne?

I haven't had a chance to go over these yet but the time stamps might not be correct.

At one point during the PH, Grusing is on the stand and mentions that the time stamp on the hotel surveillance cameras (I think it was the hotel camera) is off by quite a bit from Barry's Phone (satellites set the time automatically) and truck. So it's entirely possible that any reports that are time based are not necessarily set to the correct time. Something the defense would love to use to confuse jurors. So look at any time stamps that aren't connected to a satellite as variable.
 
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Gut feeling that is all. I personally think Barry loves his daughters deeply. I think his lawyers are well aware of that.I personally think they are old enough to understand relationships and marriages can hit the rocks. If they want to support their father through this it does not bother me one bit. Now that I have read some of Suzanne’s texts I don’t think he is the complete master manipulator some people have grabbed onto. I think he has entitlement issues but he did not marry a woman who could take him down a few notches and Suzanne realized late in the marriage they were going in different directions. She probably enjoyed the benefits of their marriage for a long time. He knew and told LE when he put the girls in the middle of one of his and Suzanne’s arguments and Suzanne was furious he realized he should not have done that. But he would not be the first parent to make the mistake of using their children in a marital argument. I am not worried about their safety and time will tell how they handle the trial but they are probably stronger than some want to give credit. And that is all the not relevant psycho analysis I can do for the night lol.

I think Barry is a narcissist and as such, can't love. Narcissists see their offspring as an extension of themselves. So they will treat them well and show them "affection" as long as they make the narcissist look good. When they no longer benefit or reflect well upon the narcissist, they are no longer needed.

There is some evidence that Barry used MM1 in his machinations. A man who loves his children does not use them in sketchy financial transactions.

MOO
 
Gut feeling that is all. I personally think Barry loves his daughters deeply. I think his lawyers are well aware of that.I personally think they are old enough to understand relationships and marriages can hit the rocks. If they want to support their father through this it does not bother me one bit. Now that I have read some of Suzanne’s texts I don’t think he is the complete master manipulator some people have grabbed onto. I think he has entitlement issues but he did not marry a woman who could take him down a few notches and Suzanne realized late in the marriage they were going in different directions. She probably enjoyed the benefits of their marriage for a long time. He knew and told LE when he put the girls in the middle of one of his and Suzanne’s arguments and Suzanne was furious he realized he should not have done that. But he would not be the first parent to make the mistake of using their children in a marital argument. I am not worried about their safety and time will tell how they handle the trial but they are probably stronger than some want to give credit. And that is all the not relevant psycho analysis I can do for the night lol.
Excellent post.
 
... There is some evidence that Barry used MM1 in his machinations. A man who loves his children does not use them in sketchy financial transactions. MOO
@sk716 sbm bbm Re bbm, is post referring to doc(s) filed in IN. Ct, indicating MM did not object to establishment of guardianship, not contesting BM being appt'ed as Gd'ian? Or to other $$$ transactions? TiA.
 
If I recall protective orders when he was arrested and jailed were the norm for the daughters and Judge Murphy was a very much a by the book kind of guy. He is now free on bond so the conditions have changed. As victims by law the daughters wishes will always be heard and consideration given. I don’t see anything questionable here. It is possible those original protective orders are still actionable but there is nothing to action.
Yes, that's my point -- they are the norm and the victims don't have a say in the matter for or against.
 
@sk716 sbm bbm Re bbm, is post referring to doc(s) filed in IN. Ct, indicating MM did not object to establishment of guardianship, not contesting BM being appt'ed as Gd'ian? Or to other $$$ transactions? TiA.

Your affiant served Bank of the West a search warrant for accounts associated to Barry and Suzanne Morphew. For an account of REDACTED and Barry Morphew (#ACCTNOREDACTED, there is a deposit dated February 24, 2020 for $40,000 from Monex.53 On June 19, 2020 there is a check written to Barry Morphew, the signer appears to be REDACTED in the amount of $30,000.
53 Suzanne’s list of grievances cites a transaction such as this one involving Monex and she mentions one involving REDACTED to Libler shortly before she disappears. (AA Page 46 of 129)
 
For anyone who might want to watch, Gray is going to cover the case tonight. Not sure how in depth he will be, but he'll likely go over the new info. (He's always said he would discuss the case when we had more info. Maybe tonight is that night?)

He's live now. I'm watching and can come back and let you know when he starts the discussion, if you don't want to listen to the rest of the show. :)


ETA: It's on now, time is 20:57 CST.
 
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There's so many things in those text messages, said by Suzanne herself, that many posters have given their opinions about regarding BM from the get-go, such as he was a narcissist, he was abusive, Suzanne did suspect someone else in his life, and so much more that we now know were true, but some posters had a difficult time believing and felt that these things were only our speculation. But now, since it is directly from Suzanne, as shown in her text messages, we now know these things are true after all.

JMO
 
Great point. I hope the girls can stand up to the manipulation. I have hope that maybe MM2 can see it for what it is. I think maybe MM1 was groomed by him long ago.

Oh Suzanne, if only you were here!

I think you've got that right!

The typical narc parent only needs and prefers one child that will serve as the extension of the narc parent and subject to the praise and adoration for grooming the forever faithful clone. The golden child will also serve to help persecute the other supply parent -- loyalty to only one.

It's the second child that truly suffers --- three is always a crowd. And if it's a single-narc parent family, the only real hope for the second child is to break away free from both the narc parent and the cloned sibling. And when they do, forget the idea there will be any remorse or hope for reconciliation, they're as good as dead -- as if they never existed. The narc parent and the golden child will never have to be reminded of the who and what they are not --especially since the second child is the only one capable of calling them both out. MOO

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Just watching tonight's Dateline episode and a former detective said the following:

"A partial profile is only good for one thing, and that's eliminating a suspect."

Well let’s hope prosecution followed through then and didn’t drop the ball at notification. It has become a rather circuitous discussion while we wait for the facts.
 
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