Still Missing CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee Co, 10 May 2020 *arrest* #97

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He threatens Suzanne with suicide, but what does he do? Kills her. Then he tells agents he’s thought of suicide, but what does he do? Plans an escape. Barry never would have and never will commit suicide. He loves himself WAY too much. He’s got a life to live!

Too bad not sad Bare. If you do get off, and that’s a big IF, you won’t have any $$ left for “living the life” you think you deserve. I & D are going to “fleece” you. No more million dollar homes and fancy Vacays.
However, with any luck, you’ll be broke AND in jail.

"Too bad not sad Bare." hahaha :D We need to be neighbors!

Are you aware that on the pro baseball application thingy, Barry wrote that his nickname is Bear?

I don't know the current topic bc I'm merely trailing 44 pages behind. But, ...

Oh, my goodness! Barry's trial is going to be here in the blink of an eye.

Does anyone think Barry will strike a plea deal rather than have his daughters and mother hear his lies in the FBI interviews and all of the damning circumstantial evidence against him?

If he doesn't plea, the trial promises to place Special Agent Grusing in an optimal shining position. I just can't wait! How will we manage without daily video coverage of this trial? Colorado law re: transparent, open and public trials is not pleasing.
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Second Trial, Same Crime? Scotland.
I live in Scotland and am familiar with not proven verdicts . It means the accused cannot be tried again EVER at a later stage even if more evidence comes to light so it has same outcome as not guilty... Google Amanda Duffy...
@Fidobell Thx for your post. I agree that Amy Duffy case* had a horrid outcome. But iiuc, now, a defendant
can be tried a second time for the same crime, under certain circumstances in Scotland.

This source & others conflict w ^ bbm in OP.
"The Double Jeopardy (Scotland) Act 2011... creates a statutory basis for the rule against trying a person twice for the same crime (known as double jeopardy). The Act also creates three narrow exceptions to this rule." ** sbm bbm

Welcoming clarification, correction, esp'ly from our legal professionals. my2ct
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* Murder of Amanda Duffy - Wikipedia
** Scotland's Double Jeopardy, three exceptions:
"Where the acquittal is tainted by offences against the course of justice such as (but not limited to) bribery, perverting the course of justice and subornation of perjury...
"Where the previously acquitted has made a credible admission of guilt.
"Where new evidence which was not and could not with ordinary diligence have been available at the trial has been found." bbm sbm
^Double Jeopardy (Scotland) Act 2011 - Wikipedia
 
"Too bad not sad Bare." hahaha :D We need to be neighbors!

Are you aware that on the pro baseball application thingy, Barry wrote that his nickname is Bear?

I don't know the current topic bc I'm merely trailing 44 pages behind. But, ...

Oh, my goodness! Barry's trial is going to be here in the blink of an eye.

Does anyone think Barry will strike a plea deal rather than have his daughters and mother hear his lies in the FBI interviews and all of the damning circumstantial evidence against him?

If he doesn't plea, the trial promises to place Special Agent Grusing in an optimal shining position. I just can't wait! How will we manage without daily video coverage of this trial? Colorado law re: transparent, open and public trials is not pleasing.
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Funny! I guess I should call him Bear?? He kills bears :eek:. I’ll stick with Bare :).

With regard to whether he’ll strike a plea deal? Bare would commit suicide before he would do that and I think I posted upthread that he’d NEVER kill himself because he loves himself too much! So, I guess my answer is, “no.” He will never admit he did it and make a plea deal. If I’m wrong, I’ll have my crow baked this time. :p:D
 
Waiting longer would have resolved the evidence issues, as you're talking about enough evidence for several murder cases (4 terabytes or whatever). Yeah, it's nice to have the lab results back too, but we've seen plenty of cases where that's an ongoing thing after arrest.

Although I think it's pretty clear Barry was skipping town, I don't see that as a legitimate reason to rush the arrest. He could have been extradited from wherever, and it's not like he would have been hard to find.

As for the idea that Barry was going to keep talking. No.

He was done talking to the Sheriff's department, and with CBI, and had been for some time.

Grusing (FBI) handled the later interviews, and those were done. Barry went over the evidence one last time (multiple exhibits), and crippled himself. Grusing showed much of his hand, and the audit was completed.

Here's how it closed: Barry said, "Yeah. Well, what happens from here? When you guys go to them, what's the next step?" SA Grusing explains that Agents will share the results with the district attorney's office and it will be up to them. SA Harris offers again that Barry could take a polygraph. Barry said that he would pray about it and that he needs to get going. Barry tells agents to be careful going back. The interview ends (page 122).

So the case would have been better organized, and the process would have gone smoother. That being said, the case wasn't going to get any stronger. They had what they had, and I'm glad they had the balls to move forward.

Premature? Yes.

Is it a case killing move? No.

An excellent summation to the question if the arrest was coming too soon so bringing it forward. It was sooner than a few Agents wanted the arrest to be. Otherwise, it has no bearing on their investigation and conclusion that Barry disappeared his wife on Mother's Day Weekend.

To believe Suzanne rode her bike Sunday morning, one must believe she was alive when Barry ate the steak on one dinner plate and then they made love the evening before going to sleep.

The evidence, according to Suzanne's SM presence, and lack thereof, shows that she drops off the earth around 2:45pm Saturday, the 9th. Barry's truck telematics are so very busy Saturday night. The dogs' hits on any thing has been discounted, per the CCSD website.

Before Barry drives his truck out of the driveway, headed to Broomsfield at 4:30am, before he spots the antlers on the Moose at Garfield, so he turns in that direction near where Suzanne's blue bike helmet was found after Suzanne was missing for Day Four but before Barry did all of that, first thing he had to get rid of Suzanne's body somewhere.

#BarryWhereIsSuzanne
 
It's so frustrating not to have access to the specific Court Order relating to what the Court prohibited or suppressed!

Today's comments by Judge Lama comes off as if the entire subject of DV is prohibited which is not what I previously understood. :eek:

I find myself waiting for Judge Lama to bring along his backbone to the bench.

I agree it's unclear, but I am assuming the content of SMs texts can go to the jury, but no witness is allowed to interpret them.

For instance, SO is not allowed to testify as to her understanding of what was said in various mediums due to the hearsay /prejudicial limitations.
 
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Just the fact that Suzanne mentioned it in her texts proves abuse. I’m not sure what I think of this judge. I don’t know his reason for being so soft on domestic violence. But I have questions.

IMO this is structural.

The legal rules and societal attitudes operate in a way that protects abusers.

This drove me to distraction in the Pistorius case. You had witnesses describing a fight, a woman locked in the toilet having written texts that she was afraid of her killer, and then she was found with her brains splattered on the wall ...

... and the judge finds its "a normal loving relationship"

The fact is, no way of a woman complaining about DV seems to be acceptable. Recently the wife of a football star released footage of her own abuse and rape by her domestic partner, and people still said she was doing it wrong. But you really have to go to these lengths to be taken seriously.

Unfortunately in this case, we can see the DV apologists hard at work once again - e.g the media coverage.

Whoops where's my wife? It's all a great mystery!
 
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I get sad when I hear of BM shooting chipmunks. We have one here at the house and every year he/she digs his way out from under our concrete porch in the spring and pitches out dirt and gravel into the garden. Then he fills it in and comes out somewhere else piling up some more dirt and gravel. We can actually see the depressions where he’s been digging under the asphalt. It never occurred to me to shoot him. It can’t even be the same chipmunk because we’ve been here for 27 years! Then there’s the chippies at the lake running to and fro. Nope, never thought of shooting the little critters. The grandchildren and I throw them some nuts and berries. I guess we’re not killers, like Barry. I’m not against people hunting for food, but killing just for the sake of killing, I don’t understand.

When I think of a chipmunk revenge, I envision the scene in Monty Python’s In Search of the Holy Grail. You know, the “rabbit” scene, except it’s a chipmunk coming at Barry. :p:D

I wonder if there is a link to how many times Barry killed an animal in the wild, which must be over a thousand kills, yes or no, to the ability to kill his wife.

Each time he tracked then shot an animal, it was for Barry to skin, use as a rug, or cut off the antlers. I spied a lovely bird, a stuffed pheasant perhaps, on one of shelves in the PP main living area. So he's killing during every season that's open, right? For most of his life, so much so he's become more at home in the wild hunting and tracking and killing. He's comfortable with killing and skinning and sawing.

Did all of those years of killing living beings, trapping defensive animals, in the wild, soften the blow, at all, in any way, did all that planning and patience, make it easier for Barry to end his wife's life since he has been killing living animals since he was 7yo.?
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I think that was speculation on the part of LE because they couldn’t find her journal. It may be true but I don’t think they can prove that there was a fire that weekend or what all was burned other than what is visible in the photo they took. Unfortunately there will quite a few things in the AA that most likely will not be used at trial since they can’t be proved beyond reasonable doubt. Prosecution has stronger arguments. I think it would be wise for prosecution not to stray too far from information that is proveable beyond doubt.

Individual pieces of evidence in the case do not need to be proved beyond reasonable doubt.

In other words the prosecution can introduce evidence of the existence/destruction of the diary, and the jury will ask itself what facts it believes have been established, and what inferences to draw from them. These facts and inferences do not need to be proven to BARD standard.
 
I think these are partial, and I'm not sure if they are all of them or not. Pages 32-33

On May 6, 2020, from 2:43 PM to 5:00 PM, Suzanne received four messages (deleted from Barry's phone prior to seizure of his phone on May 13, 2020) from Barry, which referenced,

"When I'm dead," "Going to see my savior," and "This life on earth is a mear (sic) grain of sand compared to eternity."

I am guessing the point is that no expert or other witness is allowed to testify as to the meaning of the messages, except for Barry.

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Absolutely. Not only did at least one witness say she had a journal, but they said she kept it with her other two books (Bible and Alanon).

Barry claimed that he didn't even know she had one.

If they can prove its existence, it's a big piece of circumstantial evidence. The only person on earth with a motive to make it disappear is Barry.

I could be misremembering, but I think we heard that older journals were found.

ETA: It was one of the daughters who said she had one. Pages 6 and 119View attachment 336114View attachment 336116

The absence of the journal is a key piece of evidence IMO.

It fits with the deletion of the texts.

This is a great example of why pieces of circumstantial evidence need to be considered together and not speculated away indiviually.
 
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Just a small correction LNF. The monster Frazee got 156 years and 5 years parole iirc. I know, I know, what’s 2 years between us friends. We both know he’s comin’ out in a pine box and deservedly so!

Love Never FailsLol! Ease up my friend. I’m old. And boy that trial was hard. Yes 156+ is correct. [/quote said:
Actually - the correct wording per my notes is:

Sentenced to life without the possibility of parole plus 156 years, plus 5 years with parole for solicitation.
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So - this is "out" of his charges per Judge? No enhancement - or has that not been decided yet. Can't make heads or tails of the hearing.

from my notes:

& amended (5/18/21) to add domestic violence as sentencing enhancement.
 
Since the tweets didn't say when the next hearing was - here's info from the court site:

Date Len Appearance Name Hearing Type Case # Location Division
3/30/22
9:00 AM 1Hr MORPHEW, BARRY Hearing D222022CR47 Fremont County Division 1

4/19/22
9:00 AM 1Hr IN PERSON MORPHEW, BARRY Pre-Trial Readiness Conference D222022CR47 Fremont County Division 1

4/28/22
8:00 AM 1Hr IN PERSON MORPHEW, BARRY Jury Trial D222022CR47 Fremont County Division 1

4/29/22
8:00 AM 1Hr IN PERSON MORPHEW, BARRY Motions Hearing D222022CR47 Fremont County Division 1

4/29/22
8:00 AM 1D MORPHEW, BARRY Jury Trial D222022CR47 Fremont County Division 1

5/3/22
8:00 AM 1D IN PERSON MORPHEW, BARRY Jury Trial D222022CR47 Fremont County Division 1

thru

6/3/22
8:00 AM 1D IN PERSON MORPHEW, BARRY Jury Trial D222022CR47 Fremont County Division 1


link: Colorado Judicial Branch - Court Docket Search
 
We are all familiar with the term of victim blaming but what about blatant victim disregard? That’s exactly what this is IMO
Most of us have someone we know who has been subjected to DV. We need to put an end to it. Decades ago. IMO
Maybe write Judge Lama a letter? Many letters? Next hearing is March 30. We have time.
 
I get sad when I hear of BM shooting chipmunks. We have one here at the house and every year he/she digs his way out from under our concrete porch in the spring and pitches out dirt and gravel into the garden. Then he fills it in and comes out somewhere else piling up some more dirt and gravel. We can actually see the depressions where he’s been digging under the asphalt. It never occurred to me to shoot him. It can’t even be the same chipmunk because we’ve been here for 27 years! Then there’s the chippies at the lake running to and fro. Nope, never thought of shooting the little critters. The grandchildren and I throw them some nuts and berries. I guess we’re not killers, like Barry. I’m not against people hunting for food, but killing just for the sake of killing, I don’t understand.

When I think of a chipmunk revenge, I envision the scene in Monty Python’s In Search of the Holy Grail. You know, the “rabbit” scene, except it’s a chipmunk coming at Barry. :p:D
some consolation would be that 80 chipmunks =
Funny! I guess I should call him Bear?? He kills bears :eek:. I’ll stick with Bare :).

With regard to whether he’ll strike a plea deal? Bare would commit suicide before he would do that and I think I posted upthread that he’d NEVER kill himself because he loves himself too much! So, I guess my answer is, “no.” He will never admit he did it and make a plea deal. If I’m wrong, I’ll have my crow baked this time. :p:D
I can already envision BM's lawyers filing a motion for him to be allowed bail following his conviction, pending appeal. Their audacity knows no bounds.
 
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