Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee Co, 10 May 2020 *Case dismissed w/o Prejudice* #102

[justtrish]

Maybe Bury wanted LE to think the abductors set up the bike scene.

He didn't factor in that stranger abductors don't plant evidence or stage scenes. If they have no connection to the person they are harming, then there wouldn't be a trail back to them unless they are caught on video. No phone communications would lead to them, no family or friend connection, etc. If it truly was random, then they don't care about staging a scene because nobody would be looking for them anyway. They would have grabbed her and went. If she was abducted from a bike ride, then it would be possible for the bike to be where it was and the helmet tossed as they drove down the road, but Barry would have actually woke up to his alarm on Sunday, drove straight to Broomfield, not be up opening his truck after he said he was in bed, not getting up before his alarm, not driving left toward the helmet, etc. It is 100% possible for her to be abducted from a bike ride, but it's very unlikely that on the day she was abducted her husband also puts himself in all the places of importance for the abduction to have happened. I think we have a better shot at winning the mega millions jackpot than for that to happen.

 

[Momofthreeboys]

For the same reason he went out a second time to stage the cycle helmet. We try to imply logic in reverse engineering the staging, when often the killer, tired, at 3am, under huge psychological pressure, does something completely illogical.

I don't know exactly what he staged at the house, but I do know various elements of his staging don't fit logically, because he messed up a lot of things after he disposed of the body.

That works if you accept he and he alone acted. I am not as certain of that as some of you are. At times I thought he really does have no idea where she or her phone are. His emphatically talking about not at the house or property also makes me question if he acted alone along with apparently being awake in the middle of the night. Those are all loose ends in my mind.

 

[tmar]

She is pushing PR for more clients, nothing more.

Yep.
Greed +++.
The more $ the better.
Yuk.

 

[FromGermany1]

Totally agree, he didn't fail, not at all. A man like Barry was not going to admit to anything and certainly not murdering his wife. He was playing a game and in doing that, he kept giving little bits that I think Gruising used masterfully to get as many lies as he did, but while still making Barry feel like Grusing believed him, As ridiculous as all his lies were Barry continued to talk thinking Grusing believed every one of them. You can't push a man to admit to a murder when you don't even know a murder has taken place. If they had her body, then sure Grusing could say, we know you killed her, but if he started saying stuff like that to push Barry into a corner, there is zero leverage there. They had no body to point to and say to him, you did this. They had to keep Barry talking and using the line that they were auditing the file and going over it all again and then feeding him some small inconsistencies got him to "remember" he did this or that and it clearly showed his lies all while keeping Barry confident that they were just tying up loose ends.

Would have been "nice", if Grusing had BM offered "immunity", but that wasn't possible, if not true, I think. What would BM have spilled?? Half-truths?

 

[MassGuy]

Would have been "nice", if Grusing had BM offered "immunity", but that wasn't possible, if not true, I think. What would BM have spilled?? Half-truths?

Something like that came up in one of the hearings or filings (maybe in one of Lauren's recaps).

From reading the AA, one might get the impression that the immunity thing came up, and that was the end of things. But they did try and structure a sit down to that effect (not that they would have actually offered Barry immunity for murder), but Barry ultimately balked.

 

[FromGermany1]

But why even mention the missing bike if he staged the potential abduction from home scene? Sorry, I'm not following the thinking on this?

BM had to arrange a scenario, where Suzanne was gone and someone other than himself would have had the task to call the police about a missing woman/neighbour. Otherwise he couldn't have been in Broomfield and simultaneously have miss his wife. Only to have her not answering his or the girls' phonecall wouldn't have been enough, he probably thought. I believe, he hoped, that half of the excitement because of missing Suzanne would be over, when he would return. IMO

 

[FromGermany1]

Yep.
Greed +++.
The more $ the better.
Yuk.

So all the men, who are mostly DV-performers and then murder their spouses one day, could be Iris' future clients (IF they are able to afford it). Good pro$pects for her, as there are a lot of them walking the streets/driving the roads to Broomfield and many other destinations. MOO

 

[Nikynoo]

BM had to arrange a scenario, where Suzanne was gone and someone other than himself would have had the task to call the police about a missing woman/neighbour. Otherwise he couldn't have been in Broomfield and simultaneously have miss his wife. Only to have her not answering his or the girls' phonecall wouldn't have been enough, he probably thought. I believe, he hoped, that half of the excitement because of missing Suzanne would be over, when he would return. IMO

But, that scenario still works whether the bike is factored in or not. Suzanne not answering her phone was what led to the call to the neighbour to check on Suzanne. From my understanding, the neighbour went INTO the house to check for Suzanne. The only way it works (in my head), is if the neighbour was told to specifically look for the bike and even then, the neighbour would just come back and say, yep, bike missing, she must be out on a ride. I am struggling to see why the bike being missing led specifically to LE being called and Suzanne being reported missing.

 

[Nikynoo]

RSBM

WA is end to end encrypted - that is why it's become the preferred side channel for business, politics etc

You can't get a warrant to access the content because WA don't have it.

Thanks for this!
ETA I've looked into WA more and though I don't truly understand end to end encription - it seems to me that both SM and JL's phones would be needed to retrieve the messages. Though saying that, I have changed phones numerous times (kept the same number) and all my WA messages are there.

So, my next question is, could FBI or LE adopt SMs number (and perhaps JL's too) to retrive the WA info? And, could a defence team request this info if they needed to?

 

[Kemug]

Barry probably rolled out all his tricks to charm IE, and it worked, JMO. SD won't be happy.

 

[mrjitty]

He didn't factor in that stranger abductors don't plant evidence or stage scenes. If they have no connection to the person they are harming, then there wouldn't be a trail back to them unless they are caught on video. No phone communications would lead to them, no family or friend connection, etc. If it truly was random, then they don't care about staging a scene because nobody would be looking for them anyway. They would have grabbed her and went. If she was abducted from a bike ride, then it would be possible for the bike to be where it was and the helmet tossed as they drove down the road, but Barry would have actually woke up to his alarm on Sunday, drove straight to Broomfield, not be up opening his truck after he said he was in bed, not getting up before his alarm, not driving left toward the helmet, etc. It is 100% possible for her to be abducted from a bike ride, but it's very unlikely that on the day she was abducted her husband also puts himself in all the places of importance for the abduction to have happened. I think we have a better shot at winning the mega millions jackpot than for that to happen.

BIB. Exactly.

In a true abduction, the victim vanishes into thin air - the body is hidden to obscure forensics, or not even hidden, just dumped.

The existence of staging ironically points back to the perp and the need to conceal his relationship with the victim.

It's laughable how poorly he staged the scene quite frankly.

Especially dumping SM's phone charger was unbelievably stupid. It simply can't be reconciled.

 

[mrjitty]

Barry probably rolled out all his tricks to charm IE, and it worked, JMO. SD won't be happy.

I don't think so. She is on an ego trip. Happy to trash her duties to the court in her quest for fame.

 

[mrjitty]

Thanks for this!
ETA I've looked into WA more and though I don't truly understand end to end encription - it seems to me that both SM and JL's phones would be needed to retrieve the messages. Though saying that, I have changed phones numerous times (kept the same number) and all my WA messages are there.

So, my next question is, could FBI or LE adopt SMs number (and perhaps JL's too) to retrive the WA info? And, could a defence team request this info if they needed to?

The content is encrypted end to end meaning only the two accounts participating in the chat can decrypt the messages.

Also unlike say Gmail, the content is not held in the cloud on the WA servers, but delivered to your phone and stored only locally. So basically, without one of the two phones, you can't see the messages.

There are exceptions to this - e.g. many people backup their WA into the cloud (iCloud or GDrive)

But the short version is, to recover her messages, you need her phone, or you need the phones of all the people she was chatting with.

 

[Nikynoo]

The content is encrypted end to end meaning only the two accounts participating in the chat can decrypt the messages.

Also unlike say Gmail, the content is not held in the cloud on the WA servers, but delivered to your phone and stored only locally. So basically, without one of the two phones, you can't see the messages.

There are exceptions to this - e.g. many people backup their WA into the cloud (iCloud or GDrive)

But the short version is, to recover her messages, you need her phone, or you need the phones of all the people she was chatting with.

Thank you!

 

[mrjitty]

But, that scenario still works whether the bike is factored in or not. Suzanne not answering her phone was what led to the call to the neighbour to check on Suzanne. From my understanding, the neighbour went INTO the house to check for Suzanne. The only way it works (in my head), is if the neighbour was told to specifically look for the bike and even then, the neighbour would just come back and say, yep, bike missing, she must be out on a ride. I am struggling to see why the bike being missing led specifically to LE being called and Suzanne being reported missing.

He knew he had to have evidence of life on Sunday morning.

What you are talking about is his most fundamental mistake in the staging IMO. He left much too early, and didn't act out his role correctly, doing his amateur show runner act from afar.

ETA: for me, Broomfield is the key part of the staging - especially engineering the discovery of the bike, while waiting in a hotel room for no apparent reason and lying about it.

 

[mrjitty]

You don't have a Gone Girl argument if the jury can see the girl's dead body and hear expert testimony that she was poisoned. No body cases rely upon inferences from circumstances to prove the victim is dead, so the defense can at least argue the point to the jury as to whether the inference is reasonable. To that extent, I can agree that the case against BM is not as solid as most other DV cases.

I find the evidence that SM is dead compelling, and once you get past that point the evidence in this case of motive, means and opportunity are as strong as you get, short of a confession.

I don't think LE is relying on any breadcrumbs offered up by BM in making the strong statements about SM's remains they made in the MTD. They believe she is in a remote location in the mountains around Salida - I'm guessing about 10,000 feet elevation. At that altitude in Colorado, the rate of decomposition of the remains will have been slowed quite a bit. LE may well be able to detect tranquilizer or other drugs, and external evidence of injury, choking, etc. If she's in a container, that could be linked to its owner.

In sum, finding SM is not necessarily "just finding the body." It's finding a treasure trove of evidence that may, in itself, be sufficient to refile the case.

And I bet LE has trail cams all over that place, and along the access routes leading to it.

The location and concealment of the body will be quite significant in themselves.

For example, it is still completely possible the body is dumped somewhere, and not found due to scale of the wilderness.

If on the other hand the body is well buried, up the back of the morphew place, a distance from any road access, you start to get a strong indication of who might be involved

 

[Procrastinator]

He knew he had to have evidence of life on Sunday morning.

What you are talking about is his most fundamental mistake in the staging IMO. He left much too early, and didn't act out his role correctly, doing his amateur show runner act from afar.

ETA: for me, Broomfield is the key part of the staging - especially engineering the discovery of the bike, while waiting in a hotel room for no apparent reason and lying about it.

And terrible acting when Bury got to the bike scene, the bodycam footage of Bury's fake distressed voice (◔_◔) and asking "where is it, where's the bike?" instead of "did you find Suzanne?"

 

[Jayhawk]

But, that scenario still works whether the bike is factored in or not. Suzanne not answering her phone was what led to the call to the neighbour to check on Suzanne. From my understanding, the neighbour went INTO the house to check for Suzanne. The only way it works (in my head), is if the neighbour was told to specifically look for the bike and even then, the neighbour would just come back and say, yep, bike missing, she must be out on a ride. I am struggling to see why the bike being missing led specifically to LE being called and Suzanne being reported missing.

Lots of case details we do not yet know. When was the Broomfield job scheduled, if it really was? Sunday work for a public job never occurs.

 

[Megnut]

But, that scenario still works whether the bike is factored in or not. Suzanne not answering her phone was what led to the call to the neighbour to check on Suzanne. From my understanding, the neighbour went INTO the house to check for Suzanne. The only way it works (in my head), is if the neighbour was told to specifically look for the bike and even then, the neighbour would just come back and say, yep, bike missing, she must be out on a ride. I am struggling to see why the bike being missing led specifically to LE being called and Suzanne being reported missing.

The simple answer IMO is that Barry inserted the detail that Suzanne went for a morning bike ride, pinpointing his staged time-gone-missing.

Because, you're right, half the group should've waited for Suzanne to return from her (imaginary) bike ride and the other half should've headed directly to the trails where she normally rode.

It's only due to bad staging that her unridden bike would be found within walking/carrying distance of PP, in a location Suzanne would never have biked, put there at a time she never would've biked and then storytold ineffectively by Barry.

Everyone else was trying to make sense of Suzanne's unexplained, inconsistent absence, confident she could be located.

Except Barry.

The only consistency in all of this, IMO, is that even with all of Iris' coaching, Barry is still a bad actor.

And by 'bad', I mean 'abysmal'.

JMO

 

[GatorFL]

Lots of case details we do not yet know. When was the Broomfield job scheduled, if it really was? Sunday work for a public job never occurs.

Pretty routine for landscaping to occur on Sundays here. In fact I had my palm trees trimmed this past Sunday morning.