Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #79 *ARREST*

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Could that be what Barry was asking for immunity for? Federal charges?
I think that was a Linda Stanley red herring to keep hope alive. The feds aren't going to waste their time if they can't win at the local level because generally murder is prosecuted as a state crime. I can't for the life of me think of when Suzanne's murder violated a federal law or could have occurred on federal land. I worked very, very hard behind the scenes with several people to try and get the AG in Colorado to press Krystal Kenney with federal charges for conspiracy to commit murder by crossing state lines in 3 attempts to murder Kelsey Berreth and I personally just think that isn't the fed's "thing" to prosecute local murders...just my opinion. Perhaps the feds uncovered something else if Barry goes free....but that is highly highly speculative and if they did, they didn't act on it at the time of discovery.
 
It certainly does establish the possible existence of another party. Defense is going to hammer on the idea that he's so stupid that he leaves bread crumb trails everywhere he goes, yet, in an age of constant tracking, perfectly disposes of a body? Is he The Joker or Elmer Fudd? A mythical "other dude" bridges that gap.
I agree. The prosecution absolutely has to be able to explain why the DNA means nothing, or at a minimum be able to explain why they discounted the DNA otherwise it means something LOL.
 
It certainly does establish the possible existence of another party. Defense is going to hammer on the idea that he's so stupid that he leaves bread crumb trails everywhere he goes, yet, in an age of constant tracking, perfectly disposes of a body? Is he The Joker or Elmer Fudd? A mythical "other dude" bridges that gap.

Elmer Fudd suits him well. But seriously, the partial DNA profile in the Range Rover means nothing. My own DNA in my own car could come up as a partial DNA match to a distant sexual offender relative who I’ve never met.
 
Elmer Fudd suits him well. But seriously, the partial DNA profile in the Range Rover means nothing. My own DNA in my own car could come up as a partial DNA match to a distant sexual offender relative who I’ve never met.
The defense used a different program to explain Barry’s cell movements when he arrived home on Saturday.

They used a CAST report instead of using Verizon phone records to mislead people into believing Suzanne made and received a phone call after her alleged murder.

They asked questions they knew particular witnesses could not answer, as those questions were beyond their purview.

They are pointing to partial DNA profiles that even if proven, don’t exonerate Barry.

“Oh look! Something shiny.”
 
Elmer Fudd suits him well. But seriously, the partial DNA profile in the Range Rover means nothing. My own DNA in my own car could come up as a partial DNA match to a distant sexual offender relative who I’ve never met.

Just thinking like a juror. Scott Peterson's defense rested on some sketchy dudes in a park. If this defense can present a whole menagerie of creeps in Barry's world, AND you have suspicious DNA... Ultimately I'm still stuck on reconciling a case based on digital surveillance that has yet to provide a speck of evidence leading to the body. Elmer Fudd + 21st Century Tracking + No Body = More to the Story.
 
Just thinking like a juror. Scott Peterson's defense rested on some sketchy dudes in a park. If this defense can present a whole menagerie of creeps in Barry's world, AND you have suspicious DNA... Ultimately I'm still stuck on reconciling a case based on digital surveillance that has yet to provide a speck of evidence leading to the body. Elmer Fudd + 21st Century Tracking + No Body = More to the Story.
I think that’s giving Barry way too much credit.

Barry is suspected of leaving his phone at home while he was dumping the body.

It appears he did not use his truck, which prevented law enforcement from being able to track his movements.

He had no shortage of places to hide a body.

This didn’t take a genius, he simply got one thing right.
 
The sexual assault DNA does not remove Barry from the equation at all. Hell, they could have the DNA of an unidentified serial killer, and it still doesn’t explain away the evidence against him.
Weak links? How partial DNA matches can muddle criminal investigations
This article sort of explains how partial DNA works. The person whose DNA is on Suzanne's glove box is not necessarily the sex offender in the data base...and could be nothing more than a relative. Those defense attorneys would destroy that evidence at trial if if were used against their client.
 
Just thinking like a juror. Scott Peterson's defense rested on some sketchy dudes in a park. If this defense can present a whole menagerie of creeps in Barry's world, AND you have suspicious DNA... Ultimately I'm still stuck on reconciling a case based on digital surveillance that has yet to provide a speck of evidence leading to the body. Elmer Fudd + 21st Century Tracking + No Body = More to the Story.
And there is a very good chance if LE did not look into the reports and did not follow up on tips that Peterson may get a new trial even though his potential new trial appeal is based on one juror who is suspected of being biased and lying on her jury paperwork and questioning, if it goes to trial it will be a slightly different strategy for defense for sue. So yes, the prosecution in this case has to close the gaps on investigation and elimination of others. But in general I think proving that Suzanne is deceased is a weak spot for the prosecution...not insurmountable perhaps, but a weak spot for Murder 1. I think prosecution has a slightly easier time of showing that Barry had a motive and time to do it in the middle of the night but can jurors make the leap is a question for me for Murder 1.
 
It would be interesting to read a study done on jury feedback following a murder trial from various cases (I'm fine with the specific cases not even being mentioned). What caused them to find someone guilty or not guilty. What gave them pause, confused them, did they feel like they needed to become DNA & device data experts to understand testimony, what made them confident the defendant was guilty, etc. IMO
 
It would be interesting to read a study done on jury feedback following a murder trial from various cases (I'm fine with the specific cases not even being mentioned). What caused them to find someone guilty or not guilty. What gave them pause, confused them, did they feel like they needed to become DNA & device data experts to understand testimony, what made them confident the defendant was guilty, etc. IMO

Jurors pause at no body, no crime scene and no murder weapon.
 
I think that’s giving Barry way too much credit.

Barry is suspected of leaving his phone at home while he was dumping the body.

It appears he did not use his truck, which prevented law enforcement from being able to track his movements.

He had no shortage of places to hide a body.

This didn’t take a genius, he simply got one thing right.


oh come on .... the hardest part of the whole crime and that is the only thing he managed to magic away without an iota of evidence
 
I’ve stopped asking the “why” of Suzanne’s affair. It’s counterproductive. I understand that we all want to like Suzanne and we want to justify her choice. Suzanne may not have been who we thought she was, or what drew us to this case. Barry cannot murder her because of her choices. When the defense highlights her behavior that includes lying and sneaking around, it is designed to deflect from the facts of what happened to Suzanne. Barry’s movements and Suzanne’s disappearance are absolutely connected and there is no alternative explanation. We can get lost in Suzanne’s choices and Barry can walk.
Thank you, this is how I've been feeling but you captured it in words.

For those who watched Linda Stanley's interview with PE, what do you think about her talking about Federal charges? Was that just general talk or was she telegraphing something about this case?
Ooh, that's interesting. Maybe something about crossing state lines is my guess.

What I found interesting, from the book, was the whole idea that the defense was faced with insurmountable evidence, and figured their only hope was to suggest a wildly different theory of the crime. It was the idea that they knew contesting the evidence, item by item, was doomed to failure. Even though it is a work of fiction, when their private detective set out to poke holes in the husband's alibi, the only expectation was to raise some doubt - to create the specter of a "person or persons" unknown.

If the sexual assault DNA doesn't get explained, then it seems the defense, in this case, is most of the way there.
For those of us who like murder mysteries, care to share the title and author?
 
The defense used a different program to explain Barry’s cell movements when he arrived home on Saturday.

They used a CAST report instead of using Verizon phone records to mislead people into believing Suzanne made and received a phone call after her alleged murder.

They asked questions they knew particular witnesses could not answer, as those questions were beyond their purview.

They are pointing to partial DNA profiles that even if proven, don’t exonerate Barry.

“Oh look! Something shiny.”
Can you give us an idea of what a CAST report is?
 
Jurors pause at no body, no crime scene and no murder weapon.
One stubborn juror can trigger a mistrial. That would be just fine and dandy for Barry's lawyers. this thing is far from a slam dunk. I would speculate a mistrial would happen before a Not Guilty verdict....but it would move the needle in Barry's favor.
 
It would be interesting to read a study done on jury feedback following a murder trial from various cases (I'm fine with the specific cases not even being mentioned). What caused them to find someone guilty or not guilty. What gave them pause, confused them, did they feel like they needed to become DNA & device data experts to understand testimony, what made them confident the defendant was guilty, etc. IMO

Not exactly what you are looking for, but the Dateline episode “Devils Bargain” included interviews with the jurors in Patrick Frazee’s no-body homicide trial.
 
I doubt it. He would have wanted immunity for the charge that could send him to prison for life.
That would make the most sense. I was wondering if he thought he could come up with some kind of story for his defense, like Jodi Arias did, hoping to get a lesser charge.

After hearing the chipmunk shooting story along with many of the other things he's said I wouldn't be surprised.
 
I couldn't agree more. For those of us in the unfortunate position of having the first hand experience of being in the exact same circumstances of JL's wife, this sort of speculation is both off into the weeds and rather unpleasant & awkward.

I don't think it has any bearing on this case other than what's already been said, yet another motive for Barry to murder Suzanne.

jmo
It may well have a bearing in this case when JL is on the witness stand. We don't know where the judge will draw the line in questioning him about his background and personal life.
 
Can you give us an idea of what a CAST report is?
It’s a report put together by a specialized FBI team. It seems the defense cherrypicked a couple pieces of data, without providing the context and conclusion.

So the FBI said there were two pieces of activity, and the defense used that to claim Suzanne’s phone made and received phone calls. The FBI agent on the stand ultimately shot that conclusion down.

How Cell Phone Tracking Is Increasingly Being Used to Solve Crimes
 
It’s a report put together by a specialized FBI team. It seems the defense cherrypicked a couple pieces of data, without providing the context and conclusion.

So the FBI said there were two pieces of activity, and the defense used that to claim Suzanne’s phone made and received phone calls. The FBI agent on the stand ultimately shot that conclusion down.

How Cell Phone Tracking Is Increasingly Being Used to Solve Crimes
and I can see how this defense strategy could be used to confuse the jury and make them question the data itself...
JMO
 
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