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This post is about BM and BM only. On Saturday May 9 did SM start to wash sheets and see something she wasn't expecting? JMO.
hmm a cooler weighted down with 50lbs of feed or corn or whatever that was? it still would float unless something else held it down especially in a river? Wasn't there something about him being soaking wet ?I agree with you on a potential water burial. So many sources nearby.
Regarding the hand tools BM allegedly left behind for his crew, I'm recalling a statement by MG very early that makes me think that BM did not have a truck tool box when she said that it looked to her like BM just emptied his truck bed at the hotel. At the time, MG would not have known that his toolbox was missing.
I also don't recall seeing any close-up photos of his truck(s) prior to SM missing. But I'm also inclined to believe that BM did not use his own vehicle when he disposed of SM's body. MOO
I can't forget Frazee telling KK that Kelsey would be untraceable in the river or the landfill.hmm a cooler weighted down with 50lbs of feed or corn or whatever that was? it still would float unless something else held it down especially in a river? Wasn't there something about him being soaking wet ?
YouTuber who ‘secretly’ recorded video of Barry Morphew discussing wife’s disappearance says he believes Suzanne Morphew’s husband knew the camera was on
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He said Morphew as “soaking wet” and not wearing a shirt.
No, me neither. Perhaps I misunderstood the OPs question.I’m not seeing the connection other than the sheets were in the dryer with shorts BM wore on Saturday according to the Prosecution. I think SM had washed MM1’s sheets (checked off SM’s to-do-list) and had put them in the dryer, then BM washed his shorts & threw them in the dryer without removing the sheets. I don’t think the sheets are of any evidentiary value since they were found in the home and apparently no biological evidence was found on them. Moo
Yes. We know that the unlaced boots were disposed of. The question then becomes, "What became of the laces? Why remove them from the boots prior to disposal?"
Possible answers abound, but since the boot laces seemingly cannot be accounted for, there's the distinct possibility that they were part of the commission of the crime: used as a garrotte, bindings, or simply contaminated in some way that required their disposal, separated from the boots they belonged to, presumably to help break the bond between boot and lace and between boots, laces, and Barry Morphew.
These are fair questions, IMO, as we know from the PH, because they are yet another point of departure from what we might call "expected behaviour" and the actions of BM during that 24 hours that included the disappearance of SM, and in that strange period of travel, TV-watching and extended sequence of trash runs. Sure, the boot laces may be irrelevant, but the trouble he took to remove and then separately dispose of them suggests otherwise.
I don't quite grasp the "evidence/nexus" discussion that @IRBHTX is developing, so will leave it alone.
OK, TY. This looks to me like 3 bandaids on BMs arm
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To my knowledge, no. I don't think we even know for sure if the boots had shoelaces! BM's word doesn't mean much to me but that's just me.Sorry if i missed this-were the shoelaces recovered?
Barry Morphew’s Arms Covered In Possible Fingernail Cuts After Suzanne Morphew’s Disappearance; Someone May Have Burned Journal in FireplaceHes a spendthrift, not a cheapskate.
He treated himself tp ever toy, caviar hunting trips, driving new cars.
Why, if he so pennywise was he not utilizing the Association dumpster he has already paid for?
Yes. We know that the unlaced boots were disposed of. The question then becomes, "What became of the laces? Why remove them from the boots prior to disposal?"
Possible answers abound, but since the boot laces seemingly cannot be accounted for, there's the distinct possibility that they were part of the commission of the crime: used as a garrotte, bindings, or simply contaminated in some way that required their disposal, separated from the boots they belonged to, presumably to help break the bond between boot and lace and between boots, laces, and Barry Morphew.
These are fair questions, IMO, as we know from the PH, because they are yet another point of departure from what we might call "expected behaviour" and the actions of BM during that 24 hours that included the disappearance of SM, and in that strange period of travel, TV-watching and extended sequence of trash runs. Sure, the boot laces may be irrelevant, but the trouble he took to remove and then separately dispose of them suggests otherwise.
I don't quite grasp the "evidence/nexus" discussion that @IRBHTX is developing, so will leave it alone.
The water ways in the area were pretty thoroughly searched by trained professionals. That is well documented. Areas of water were also searched by non-professionals. It's entirely possible she is in water somewhere else, like the Blue Mesa or somewhere, but I think we will never find out because the case is centered on May 9 and 10 and the body was moved by Barry during a particular timeframe and that is what prosecution is working with. There is always that slim possibility that something will turn up between now and trial if it goes to trial that would "change" the prosecution story they have outlined in the AA.hmm a cooler weighted down with 50lbs of feed or corn or whatever that was? it still would float unless something else held it down especially in a river? Wasn't there something about him being soaking wet ?
YouTuber who ‘secretly’ recorded video of Barry Morphew discussing wife’s disappearance says he believes Suzanne Morphew’s husband knew the camera was on
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He said Morphew as “soaking wet” and not wearing a shirt.
@Tiff23fr Thanks for asking about my (amateur) game plan. I'd love to bounce my ideas off of you (we're in similar fields) and also off the legal eagles here.
Then I'd do all his lies in a big chart (how his story changed many times). The reset of the truck's GPS would be part of this (another set of experts here - to do car and phone GPS, including from a third phone which I believe he used in this crime and evidence of Suzanne's phone from the Cloud). I know Barry made more than just trash run stops and that LE has evidence of him out and about on May 9-10 (the evidence that caused Monarch Pass highway to be shut for a day - even if they didn't find much, they had reason to believe Barry had been in certain places - where Suzanne's body may still be hidden). I'd describe the searches for Suzanne and why Barry was excluded from official searches and how he behaved when Andy tried to search. I'd put Andy on the stand. His lack of cooperation and lying to the investigators needs to be strongly emphasized (not just because of that one charge, but for the whole case). He had knowledge of his own guilt. He also lies. I'd include lies told to the Moorman family about not being part of the loan (despite borrowing money to invest in community property). I'd include his lying about working on Sunday in Broomfield.
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WOW! More than just a scrape!Nope.
I personally would not start with DV....it's an aggravator not a charge. But if the prosecution can follow your suggestions in 15 minutes that they have coming on the 17th that would be good. Because preliminary allows for way more leniency around hearsay and character than will ever be allowed at trial it could get the prosecution over the hump and on to trial. Trial, of course, is a whole different animal and hearsay and characterizations are not allowed as easily as in a preliminary. I think it would also depend if alot of the things you mentioned are in evidence. I'm not sure about that...the Elk head for instance could be long gone to a processor or taxidermist for the 9th and 10th and the securing of the house. Right now the alleged affairs that Barry had are a non-starter also as prosecution has said they could not find any current affairs. That could change of course between the prelim and trial. I have to think also if the prosecution had someone who sold Barry steroids it might have come out - but perhaps they didn't think they needed it in the prelim.@Tiff23fr Thanks for asking about my (amateur) game plan. I'd love to bounce my ideas off of you (we're in similar fields) and also off the legal eagles here.
(TL;DR - DV; timeline; witness will show motive, means and opportunity to commit the crime of murdering Suzanne Morphew).
Domestic violence and the danger of divorce would be my first topic, with all the evidence of Barry's pre-disappearance control (an expert witness on DV; Barry controlling the money; SO's and Suzanne's sister's testimony about a violent marriage; probably put the daughter who recommended a restraining order on the stand (gently) and I'd also ask her if the door frame had been broken the last time she was at the house; the nose clipping event; the times he pinned her down to the bed; the time he threw her into a closet and held a gun to his head; all his suicide messages; then put the expert back on the stand to give a statement about how suicidal controlling spouses often turn homicidal. The fact that women are most vulnerable to murder (femicide) when they try to leave would get hammered home. I'd also have a chart of all the things that constitute DV (it's not just punching people, shoving and blocking exits and "clipping" in the face while making wild hand gestures, getting in someone's face, yelling, threatening, financial control, sexual control, implicit threats of violence - such as "bumping" one's big muscular body up against someone to herd them around as if they are a deer, religious control, gaslighting, blaming the victim - all of that needs to be discussed and good graphics made). How abusers try to isolate the victim more and more, to control and to silence them.
Then I'd start the timeline of how Suzanne planned to leave (starting with her financial moves to try and get some money to go, constantly reiterating how secretive she needed to be). Starting May 6, the timeline will ramp up and begin to include Barry Morphew's opportunity (daughters gone, Suzanne alone, poor cellular connection, distance between houses in that areaand his motivation (financial and she's leaving). I'd go into Barry Morphew's financial patterns (including his dependence on Suzanne for big sums of money). Barry's actions from May 6-11th would be combed over with a fine tooth comb. He has no alibi. I'd try to establish that his financial motivation was huge, that he carried a gun around the house, that he admitted shooting the gun on May 9th, and I'd introduce the broken door frame. I'd have a map of the larger area and another of the PP house. I'd include the elk head with flesh attached outside the house to attract mountain lions, I'd include his rapid move to get conservatorship, his getting rid of Suzanne's things, his bizarre statement about saving just one person, his exchange of his truck for a new one, and his selling of the RR (maybe two RR's) and his sale of the Indiana house. I'd hope that SO has information about Suzanne wanting to move back to Indiana. I'd bring in any witnesses who could explain that Barry believed only death could end a marriage and Suzanne's statements about Barry permitting no discussion of divorce ("because it will never happen.") Here, I believe it's tricky. Surely JL can testify to Suzanne's reasoning about divorce, at least to some degree. Anyway, this would be the timeline section (I'm really good at drawing timelines myself, with color coding and I would have slides and when all the timeline was put together, it would be highly incriminating). Barry had opportunity, he had means, he had motive. The scratch marks would be presented in this part. I'd probably also have a local LE witness talk about how it's a small town and many already knew Barry and that his reputation as a friendly, God-loving man made them reluctant to draw the conclusion that he was a murderer, and have that person tell why their mind changed. I'd include his attempt to influence MG as a witness. I'd include the lies he told to his nephew (put the nephew on the stand).
I'd include the financial forensics in the timeline section. This would include all the evidence the Suzanne did not voluntarily leave.
There'd be quite a bit of testimony, but I'd boil it down to a simple timeline and that timeline would be there at the summation. Obviously, the trash dump would be a big part of it.
Then I'd do all his lies in a big chart (how his story changed many times). The reset of the truck's GPS would be part of this (another set of experts here - to do car and phone GPS, including from a third phone which I believe he used in this crime and evidence of Suzanne's phone from the Cloud). I know Barry made more than just trash run stops and that LE has evidence of him out and about on May 9-10 (the evidence that caused Monarch Pass highway to be shut for a day - even if they didn't find much, they had reason to believe Barry had been in certain places - where Suzanne's body may still be hidden). I'd describe the searches for Suzanne and why Barry was excluded from official searches and how he behaved when Andy tried to search. I'd put Andy on the stand. His lack of cooperation and lying to the investigators needs to be strongly emphasized (not just because of that one charge, but for the whole case). He had knowledge of his own guilt. He also lies. I'd include lies told to the Moorman family about not being part of the loan (despite borrowing money to invest in community property). I'd include his lying about working on Sunday in Broomfield. The reset of the GPS would be emphasized as evidence that Suzanne was disposed of. I'd certainly mention the tranquilizer material, of course and bring in an expert to tell how that would help Barry avoid certain kinds of forensic evidence.
Then I'd wrap up with witnesses who could speak for Suzanne in some way. If that one pastor can be brought to the stand to repeat what Barry said to her, that'd be great too. But I'd have SO back on the stand, Suzanne's sister, one or both of the daughters, anyone who could read out Suzanne's grievance list, the texts between Suzanne and her supporters. If necessary, I'd address the issue of why they left Indiana (if defense claims it's due to the affair, I'd counter with it was due to Barry becoming increasingly violent - even in the workplace, of which there are two examples where there are witnesses). I'd imply that Suzanne wanted out, but that Barry had cornered her.
(And then I think about getting lucky...does the prosecution have witnesses from the gym who might know if Barry used steroids? Because I think he did...did Suzanne reveal anything to the Ritters about the state of the marriage - that would a lucky break; what about that DV group? etc What does SD know? )
I'd take the risk of putting one or both daughters on the stand, or at least Macy (I believe she really did advise her mother to get out and get a restraining order and I believe she's seen way more than we know). I don't think Macy will lie on the stand.
I'm stumped as to whether Barry actually had affairs. We all thought he did, but so far, no evidence that he did - except that he's with SD within two months after Suzanne disappears and SD's BF seems to believe she was already involved with Barry at the time of Suzanne's disappearance - that's just an intuition of mine after seeing his picture in the crowd at the first presser - but I think he knows when they got together).
At any rate, I'd make this trial about the dramatic story of a beautiful young woman who marries a man who truly believes he's in charge of her and that physical intimidation is just how he roles. If Barry is acquitted (by those 1-2 jurors who deep inside agree with him), at least the story of Suzanne's life, her endurance of DV, and the fact that apparently happy, well-to-do families may not actually be happy. That "Godly" men are capable of deception and I'd want to leave the jurors with a strong notion of Barry Morphew as deceptive and the exact opposite of what some members of his community thought him to be.
And I"d fervently hope that he was found guilty of all the charges, but if not, at least of felony possession of an illegal weapon and felony deception of the 8 LE/public officials. Because I do not want Barry to own any guns or be in possession of any guns for the rest of his life.
No more hunting for Barry.
It's always curious to me when we have a highly pixelated image here how folks can see all sorts of things in it, and others can't see a thing. I work with photoshop every day in my professional life, and that image wouldn't pass anyone's professional sniff test since it's at such a low resolution and clarity. There could be scratches on his arm, but I'm not seeing them in this image.WOW! More than just a scrape!
I wonder if we actually saw the boots without the laces or if it is just another excuse that Barry made up to cover his butt.
He seems to think quick on his feet to come with an answer for everything he is asked whether it is the truth or a lie.