Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #21

[Ashildir]

If you realize that a person is mortally wounded and you willing decline to aid, assist or seek a medical intervention; is that murder?

would it be negligent homicide?

 

[susiQ]

If you realize that a person is mortally wounded and you willing decline to aid, assist or seek a medical intervention; is that murder?

It is to me!

 

[IronOreBetty]

The fact CBI and FBI were brought on board so quickly by local Police department speaks VOLUMES! This is not the average “wife/mother missing case”!
There are adults who go missing everyday in this country and FBI and state bureaus are not involved with the searches. Buckle up! MOO this is not going to end well for any one! Prayers for SM’s recovery.

It could mean that there are people out of state that were mentioned as possible perps as well. Maybe family members from the midwest that had a beef with BM & SM for some reason.

 

[Minordetails]

If I was Barry right now, my only objective would be to avoid spending the rest of my life in prison.
MOO

Yes, but how in the world could he do that?? Moo

If I was a guilty BM, I’d be on the next plane to Mexico. But pride...

 

[IronOreBetty]

It's the tale of two friends.. Barrys friend (TS) saying she was an avid biker and actually told him she wasn't intimidated biking alone.. and now Suzannes friend saying she was new to biking. Life gets complicated doesn't it.

I took up cycling about 2 years ago. I consider myself new to it.

 

[Murphy1950]

Camera glitch, PE interview with TD mentioned she had not had repairs at AB since 2018, several times. Also referenced her repairs since had been done by Scott, former mechanic at AB. IMO, the 2018 would have meant she had been biking for at least that long, longer as AB didn’t indicate the dates they had serviced her bikes, before then. hope that helps. Im assuming she biked before the move, but that wasn’t addressed in this video.

Thanks for responding. After all was said and done with the Tyson interview, over 10 minutes on the "bike" the thing is we don't know if there were any repairs at all. Heck, they could have bought a used bike when the moved there in anticipation of tackling the sport. If a bike was worked on at all, it could be the daughter's bike, or Barry's for all we know. All we know is a tire was purchased in 2018, nothing more that I have seen or heard...absolutely nothing else.

 

[GordianKnot]

There is zero evidence he did anything to Suzanne, so why do you and so many on here think he is guilty?? Not an insider, just taking what I see!

Not to beat a dead horse, but to beat a dead horse:

Because law enforcement didn’t believe she was abducted (no official poster with physical description, no frequent communication, no timeline, no last images).

That tells us the bike was staged, which only a person close to the victim does.

Because they sealed off the home quickly, and conducted two separate searches there.

Because the FBI spent 3 days digging up private property that BM worked on.

Because law enforcement continues to be silent, despite being active.

Because we have a man behaving contrary to just about every loving spouse ever, in a situation like this.

Because we’ve seen this movie before.

BBM:

All of the above, and then some.

Reminds me of something someone wise once said:

"Never ask someone a question you don't really want them to answer."

JMO.

 

[Bethlamb16]

I have been following this case from the beginning and it really touches a nerve with me as well. I think because I am in that age group with 2 children, long term marriage, etc. Anyway, while in general in these cases it is usually the spouse and it very well could be in this case, I don't believe that there has been anywhere near enough information to make an "informed" decision on who caused SM to disappear. We literally know nothing except that a woman disappeared and searches were done. I too am surprised how much hate has gone BM's way with knowing next to nothing about the case. JMO!

 

[susiQ]

If I was a guilty BM, I’d be on the next plane to Mexico. But pride...

There will be NO planes to Mexico for BM regardless of his pride. LE are watching him 24/7. They’re all over him like a cheap shirt whether he realizes it or not. JMHO

 

[TxGidget]

Is LE searching for Suzanne?
Have they ever formed a search party to look for her?
Have they ever given any indication that they were actually searching for a missing person?

I’m a broken record on this, I know. They searched relentlessly for 7+ days. On the 5th day, ninety (that’s 90!) LE searched. There were searches with hounds and water sites near the trail were combed. If you go to the Chaffee County Sheriff website and click on “latest news”, you can scroll back to May 10th and chronologically read all of the daily press releases. I suggest this to anyone who thinks nothing was done to search for SM, a person who may have been abducted, injured or otherwise endangered. It was a large scale search, especially for that small county.

 

[al66pine]

Covering up an Accident which led to Death?

It's not quite as you specify since the perp was intoxicated and driving while imparied, but the case that sticks in my head and probably will forever is the Chante Jawan Mallard vehicular homicide case. She was sentenced to 50 years in prison.

@Madeleine74 I wiki'ed her name; result gave name of victim, man who was injured and stuck in her car's windshield for a day plus, before dying. Perp--"believed to have been driving while intoxicated by a combination of marijuana, ecstasy and alcohol."* I remember this sad case.
^Death, 2001. Trial 2003; Sentenced to 50 yrs/murder + 10 yrs evd tampering, run concurrently.*
Eligible for parole, 2027." Texas Department of Criminal Justice Offender Search

I don't know what happened to SM but IF perp did cover up (like ^ perp),
I hope ct can impose loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong sentence. Back to SM.

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* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Gregory_Glenn_Biggs

 

[LietKynes]

would it be negligent homicide?

Maybe.

Speculation alert :

Just why on earth would Suzanne need to be 'hidden' ? If she was ?
Would it have been for the same reasons Gannon Stauch's body was concealed ?
To prevent the real cause and manner of death being detected by LE ?

Did Suzanne wait until the girls were out of the home on their camping trip, to let BM know she wanted a divorce ?
The most dangerous time for anyone.
And someone exploded in a fury ?
OR, was the camping trip prearranged with murder in mind ?
MOO

 

[10ofRods]

So, I'm one of those pesky fence sitters , I can see why things point to BM and do accept he is certainly coming across as mighty suspicious in his behaviours etc. but I am struggling as to the reason why he would harm his wife and the mother of his children - I mean they have been together a REALLY long time and would have faced some struggles during their time together. I did some reading on husbands killing their wives, and found some interesting things (interesting to me anyway) I read a number of articles/news articles/papers etc. one from the CDC (why does the Centre of Disease Control do studies on spousal killings? genuine question ) and from what I gathered women who co-habit are more likely to be killed than married women - 9 out of 10 co-habiting women, a married man is more likely to kill a 'mistress' particularly if they are younger and pregnant, the women would be most likely under 40, financial gain isn't always a motivator but jealousy if the wife wanted to move on was quite a big motivator - I did find that interesting, particularly in light of SM's illness and previous thoughts/opinions on here of her re-evaluating things, that made me think that SM wanted to re-direct her life and BM wasn't happy with the idea?
I read something by Dr Moncton Smith (Criminology Expert) - some of the British W/Sleuthers will know of her I would have thought - she stated there was an '8 stage pattern' that Uroxicide (think I spelt that correctly) follows - there was some points for discussion in there I feel such as 1,2,3,4,6 and 7 (although I am unclear whether some of them could be discussed here as we don't know what they were like and what relationship dynamics were when they first met etc. and as this was on BBC News - I don't know if its verified?). I am not too tech savvy though and cant seem to copy the links properly - just my thoughts, thanks for letting me share and sorry if I bored any of you .

I don't think that you can tell from the outside of a marriage (long or short) what it's like inside.

I know people who are *still* with their abusers.

I was in an abusive relationship for 18 years - so 25 years doesn't sound that long to me. Further, I know couples where there's no abuse, but one of them is a serial adulterer - but they are "good Christian people" and they hide it very well. In fact, they are both really cool, smart people in helping professions - I assume that she still doesn't know, but everyone else who knows them...knows. But things could turn south at any time.

Are you under the impression that only shorter marriages have the potential for abuse? Or that older people don't kill each other?

I think it's not that simple. Rage killings happen across all married age groups, and are often related to poor impulse control that has usually shown its ugly head before. Planned killings are rare, but usually involve affairs and money.

Rage killings include losing one's temper and doing something like shoving someone (who just happens to be standing on a precipice of some kind). Shoving can also be premeditated.

When are these killings most likely to occur? When the abused partner tries to leave, gets more independent, etc. When the couple is isolated (we're seeing an upsurge in murders and DV during the CoVid shutdowns). When there are financial problems. When there are health problems. When all of this has an effect on the bedroom.

There can be all kinds of problems under the surface of apparently successful marriages.

 

[susiQ]

I don't think that you can tell from the outside of a marriage (long or short) what it's like inside.

I know people who are *still* with their abusers.

I was in an abusive relationship for 18 years - so 25 years doesn't sound that long to me. Further, I know couples where there's no abuse, but one of them is a serial adulterer - but they are "good Christian people" and they hide it very well. In fact, they are both really cool, smart people in helping professions - I assume that she still doesn't know, but everyone else who knows them...knows. But things could turn south at any time.

Are you under the impression that only shorter marriages have the potential for abuse? Or that older people don't kill each other?

I think it's not that simple. Rage killings happen across all married age groups, and are often related to poor impulse control that has usually shown its ugly head before. Planned killings are rare, but usually involve affairs and money.

Rage killings include losing one's temper and doing something like shoving someone (who just happens to be standing on a precipice of some kind). Shoving can also be premeditated.

When are these killings most likely to occur? When the abused partner tries to leave, gets more independent, etc. When the couple is isolated (we're seeing an upsurge in murders and DV during the CoVid shutdowns). When there are financial problems. When there are health problems. When all of this has an effect on the bedroom.

There can be all kinds of problems under the surface of apparently successful marriages.

Thank you for stating this. Sometimes it feels like some have this notion that if they see people smiling on Fakebook and that they have lots of money and live in an expensive home that all is magical and wonderful and that evil will never soil their doorstep. Unfortunately, they are in a dream world. JMHO

 

[Ashildir]

I don't think that you can tell from the outside of a marriage (long or short) what it's like inside.

I know people who are *still* with their abusers.

I was in an abusive relationship for 18 years - so 25 years doesn't sound that long to me. Further, I know couples where there's no abuse, but one of them is a serial adulterer - but they are "good Christian people" and they hide it very well. In fact, they are both really cool, smart people in helping professions - I assume that she still doesn't know, but everyone else who knows them...knows. But things could turn south at any time.

Are you under the impression that only shorter marriages have the potential for abuse? Or that older people don't kill each other?

I think it's not that simple. Rage killings happen across all married age groups, and are often related to poor impulse control that has usually shown its ugly head before. Planned killings are rare, but usually involve affairs and money.

Rage killings include losing one's temper and doing something like shoving someone (who just happens to be standing on a precipice of some kind). Shoving can also be premeditated.

When are these killings most likely to occur? When the abused partner tries to leave, gets more independent, etc. When the couple is isolated (we're seeing an upsurge in murders and DV during the CoVid shutdowns). When there are financial problems. When there are health problems. When all of this has an effect on the bedroom.

There can be all kinds of problems under the surface of apparently successful marriages.

bbm - no I am not under that impression at all - I am all too aware of abuse.

I am truly sorry for what you have experienced.

 

[IceIce9]

Not to beat a dead horse, but to beat a dead horse:

Because law enforcement didn’t believe she was abducted (no official poster with physical description, no frequent communication, no timeline, no last images).

That tells us the bike was staged, which only a person close to the victim does.

Because they sealed off the home quickly, and conducted two separate searches there.

Because the FBI spent 3 days digging up private property that BM worked on.

Because law enforcement continues to be silent, despite being active.

Because we have a man behaving contrary to just about every loving spouse ever, in a situation like this.

Because we’ve seen this movie before.

100% agree with this. A great post.

 

[Seattle1]

What TD said in his interview with the P.E. guys: both he and LS looked everywhere for cameras and didn't see any at all. He was wondering where these cameras could have been. They didn't notice any up in the trees either. So... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Lesson learned that because there are posters and signs everywhere advising criminals that they are being watched means nothing. Do yourselves a favor and invest in a Ring or something. Especially in the current times. Danger lurks around every corner and if not for us then a neighbor or loved one. IMO

I should have added that I'm aware of at least two remote bike trails in WA with live surveillance systems that followed the use of warning signs only.

The system is solar-powered, ground-mounted, and mobile (i.e., surveillance camera boxes can be moved around the trail). The first time I saw a "ground box" I thought it looked like something our HOA pest control uses.

Again, I have no idea if TD/LS is referring to a true system or mounted surveillance signs only. MOO

 

[Cassady]

No.

It’s not a hunch that the house was searched multiple times.

It’s not a hunch that this was never handled as an abduction.

It’s not a hunch that a 3 day search was conducted by the FBI at a property Barry worked on.

Any “hunch” would be what these things mean. I’d call it way more than a hunch though.

You do realize that this is a crime discussion board right? And that the court of public opinion is different from an actual court?

Aided by the CBI and/or the FBI, Colorado authorities have behaved this exact same way in several recent high profile cases. It’s not hard to gauge what they are doing, as it’s a readily identifiable pattern.

ETA: And by “evidence” I didn’t mean in a criminal sense. I meant a supporting basis for a belief.

You knew that though.

And nothing about any of that indicates the LE is solely focused on the spouse of the missing person...that is your belief and it has not been verified. There are numerous scenarios that could have lead LE to respond how they did. Also the execution of a SW is not evidence in and off itself. A SW is meaningless if it does not produce evidence or proceeds of a crime.

Despite all the efforts by LE no arrests have been made, no suspects have been named and really no indication of what happened and when it happened has been presented.

Thus when a poster says she thinks the spouse of the missing person is innocent, they should not have to explain much more than there is no evidence indicating guilt at this time. <modsnip>

 

[dkryder]

And nothing about any of that indicates the LE is solely focused on the spouse of the missing person...that is your belief and it has not been verified. There are numerous scenarios that could have lead LE to respond how they did. Also the execution of a SW is not evidence in and off itself. A SW is meaningless if it does not produce evidence or proceeds of a crime.

Despite all the efforts by LE no arrests have been made, no suspects have been named and really no indication of what happened and when it happened has been presented.

Thus when a poster says she thinks the spouse of the missing person is innocent, they should not have to explain much more than there is no evidence indicating guilt at this time. Why keep pushing for some greater explanation? It seems unnecessarily antagonistic.

How can someone who has no idea if LE has any evidence right now say there is no evidence??. Actually there may or may not be evidence, none of us currently know.

 

[TKG]

Not to beat a dead horse, but to beat a dead horse:

Because law enforcement didn’t believe she was abducted (no official poster with physical description, no frequent communication, no timeline, no last images).

That tells us the bike was staged, which only a person close to the victim does.

Because they sealed off the home quickly, and conducted two separate searches there.

Because the FBI spent 3 days digging up private property that BM worked on.

Because law enforcement continues to be silent, despite being active.

Because we have a man behaving contrary to just about every loving spouse ever, in a situation like this.

Because we’ve seen this movie before.

Hah! Must be a MA way of thinking! Yes, totally agree!