Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #28

[Megnut]

By the way, the story BM told AM was that by setting things up on Mother's Day, for the mystery Wall of Crookedness, he planned to be there (Denver, CS, wherever "there" was) for the next 4 days, rebuilding the wall. I know next to nothing about hardscaping and if folks work in garbage weather like this Denver weather: Sunshine Sunday before a slightly rainy week so I wonder how realistic that story sounds to those in the know?

I also wonder, if the Mystery Crew that was supposed to be coming, ever showed up and went ahead and rebuilt the wall? Or did the owner of the property have to hire someone else?

I've listened several times and I think that AM recalls BM saying setting up on Mother's Day would FREE HIM UP to work locally for the following four days.

Running that through my reverse salad spinner, I get an explanation for why BM is magically available M-Th for searching (party of 5 or 6) and not at an imaginary worksite, working on the imaginary wall, bound to an imaginary project that his imaginary workers showed up to rebuild, on both Sunday night and Monday morning. In both Denver and Colorado Springs.

My mom has always said, if you're going to tell a story, make it good.

Let me freshen that up.

If you're going to tell a story, how's abouts trying to make it CREDIBLE?

If facts were pepperoni, looks like someone's a cheese pizza.

JMOJMOJMO

 

[Hatfield]

This is a copy pasta of some of the transcript of the PE Choir Practice YT last night. I found it interesting, wanted to share:

51:25
the the part that on the bobcat that was
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in question
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was actually it's it's called the blade
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or the lower section of the
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if you think of the front of a bucket on
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a bobcat which is just a small backhoe
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there's a piece of metal that goes
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across the front
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that wears down because it's dragging on
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the ground
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that was one of the pieces in question
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and you you know what we don't know it
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could have been just an
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entire uh fluke that that
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happened at the same moment it could
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have been involved in something
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um we're like you waiting for that to
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unfold
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yeah and um yeah there's still a lot of
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information i mean
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are there two are there repair shops uh
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in that area and if so
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you know uh crime fighters kind of poke
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around see if
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anybody brought you know equipment in to
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be sharpened or anything like that you
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never know i mean it could be out there
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but you know you guys are out and about
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um

Re BBM
Yes I listened to PE last night and that is my understanding too. That they think it was the "front bucket scooper thing" that is attached to the front of it. Its shown (barely can see it) in the news video of it when we see it in their driveway. The front bucket portion is resting on the ground in that aerial video of their house so its hard to see it, but its there.

So lets suppose a person was using the bobcat for nefarious reasons and decided to put a body in the front bucket to use it to carry the person to another place. That person may have been worried about blood or DNA evidence that was on the scoop bucket and so they may have replaced the entire bucket scooper.

PE hinted that there may be records somewhere of someone either purchasing or renting a new or used front bucket attachment for it.
JMO

ETA-They have various attachments and the buckets, backhoe, and front end loader attachments can be seen in link below.

Find Bobcat Attachments and Implements - Bobcat Company

 

[MassGuy]

In the latest PE interview, I thought it was interesting that the CBI investigator asked AM why he thought Barry had nothing to do with Suzanne's disappearance. I wonder if that was the first time both the family and LE realized that BM had lied about the lie detector tests. (Allegedly)

That was my impression. It sounds like the family had their suspicions, but speaking with CBI was a game changer.

I think they felt like they had been hit with a ton of bricks.

 

[Brubon]

BBM:

Not to split hairs here, but it was actually "3-3o hours" that BM spent fully and cooperatively answering all of LE's questions.

Not 30 hours.

3-30 hours.

Let's make sure we give the man his full due, shall we?

JMO.

LOLOLOL


MOO

 

[NuttMegg]

Re BBM
Yes I listened to PE last night and that is my understanding too. That they think it was the "front bucket scooper thing" that is attached to the front of it. Its shown (barely can see it) in the news video of it when we see it in their driveway. The front bucket portion is resting on the ground in that aerial photo of their house so its hard to see it, but its there.

So lets suppose a person was using the bobcat for nefarious reasons and decided to put a body in the front bucket to use it to carry the person to another place. That person may have been worried about blood or DNA evidence that was on the scoop bucket and so they may have replaced the entire bucket scooper.

PE hinted that there may be records somewhere of someone either purchasing or renting a new or used front bucket attachment for it.
JMO

And/or distinctive dirt/substrate. I guess we don't yet know if he had the urge to change out that scoop bucket in the dead of night.

 

[Puzzles8]

I do believe, like most, that SM is sadly deceased. I also believe this was not a planned event.

The girls are older, so I’m sure they were used to having time alone in the house. But what happened that weekend (if BM is the bad guy) to cause such an explosive event? First thing comes to mind is an unforgivable lie uncovered. Girls are away and a confrontation happens. Perhaps things are said that normally would have been hushed bedroom fights. So I think the fact that the children were gone plays into this event going down the way it did. Or – this happened to be a time chosen that words were said that were shocking/life changing to the other party.

Where to search, where to search…. I don’t believe she’s on their property.

Consider the normal activity pattern of the bad guy, what does that radius location(s) look like? Also consider if this wasn’t a planned event and this is panic mode. Hopefully LE has good gps or cell data and can map search areas of interest (I think they probably do).

-remote locations that have service roads
-dirt roads
-less traveled open areas – zero in on tree clusters that stand out
-if you’re disposing of a body at night – you want the highest probability of privacy and can work quickly with just a flashlight.
-carrying a body, even for a fit person is not easy. “dead weight” is a thing.
-does the bad guy partake in any illegal poaching? I would be interested in areas such as this as a disposal site as well.

Searches are tough in general but if foul play is suspected, then it’s even more challenging. IMO

What would the bad guy do?

All my opinion.

BBM - There was almost a full moon that weekend. That can provide a lot of ambient light.

Moon Phases Calendar for May 2020 - Calendar-12.com

 

[Error505]

Maybe I'm the odd one out..... if my husband had to set up a job on Mothers Day, it wouldn't bother me in the least bit. I know that him being gone pays our bills. I dont need breakfast in bed with flowers and the whole nine yards.... I know my husband loves me and appreciates what I do for our kids. How do you know that SM didn't feel the same way about Mothers day? Ot could have been, oh hubby will be out of town and girls will be gone. We will just pick another day to do Mothers Day celebration. Not everyone's world stops bc its Mothers Day.

Yes, so he was by himself?? And your point about that is what? Normally there is not a whole crew going to set up the jobsite. It is mostly the head guy that gets everything set out and how he wants it ........BEFORE his crew arrives to actually do the job.

And your pfft at the end was really not needed.

Jmho

Too bad Suzanne Morphew is no longer around for anyone to ask her how she felt about being left alone on Mother’s Day! MOO

 

[tmar]

Good catch. He couldn't even keep it straight if his employees were coming in Sunday night or the next day.

Someone may tabulate the many inconsistent statements by BM, introduced over time.
More and more.
You would think, you would stick to 'one story'.

Perhaps BM purposely does this, just in case, one of these statements, leads to a trail, AWAY from his actions.
He introduces new points, hoping these help his case, INSTEAD, we consider them as lies.
His defence, for this maybe, is, that he is so upset/anxious that he is so muddled up, even having to lie on the ground: the upset is just 'too much' for him.
MOO.

 

[PaulaDC]

I watched the interview with AM last night, but because there was SO much info there I had to watch again this morning. Just a few things that stood out to me, so I took some notes:

5:48 AM arrived in CO around 8-9pm Monday night. The Morphew house was already locked down so he went to the neighbor's air bnb. AM says BM was staying at "the neighbor's across the river, right behind his house". (I have seen conflicting info on WHO he was staying with, so this stood out to me)

6:35 AM heads to the house BM was staying at and asks BM to tell him everything: BM tells AM the 5am departure story. For a job in Colorado Springs (did AM misspeak here, or is that actually where BM told him he was?) where he was repairing a wall he'd put up last fall. BM tells AM he was setting the site up at the hotel, leaving tools at the hotel, so his crew could show up the next day (not Sunday night as he told TD) and re-build the wall. (I wonder what LE has seen on the surveillance footage of the hotel on Sunday?)

7:35 AM states BM told him he texted SM later that morning to tell her happy Mother's Day. No response. So then BM allegedly called SM and got her voicemail. He left a message - he's concerned - please call him back. BM's cell phone records will have already told LE exactly where that call was placed from. Denver? Colorado Springs? Somewhere else entirely?

9:05 BM tells AM he arrived back home at 6pm then later says it was 9pm. Such a stupid thing to lie about, so why do it?

13:00 AM became convinced after standing there for 20 minutes the bike was thrown down the ravine - BM didn't want to hear it, brushed him off (of course).

21:00 CBI travelled to IN to question the Moorman family & friends of B & S. AM tells (whoever it was) CBI he doesn't think BM had anything to do with it because he's been cooperative & passed polygraph & voice stress tests - CBI stops AM and says NO, BM uncooperative with CBI, lied about passing tests.

To me, it can't possibly get any clearer that a.) BM is as guilty as it gets b.) LE believe the exact same thing. I suspect his arrest may happen very, very soon. And the warrants unsealed, as well as the arrest warrant PC affidavit, which will be mind blowing to read. (and then all you super savvy folks who have info you're sitting on can finally share!)

jmo

What's weird to me is that he text her to say he was worried as if leaving that message in text was "proof" he was worried AND I've been married a loooong time and many times I don't answer letting the dogs out, taking a shower, drying my hair, at work, in a store etc etc. NEVER ever has my husband told me he was worried in that short time span. Another words putting it in a text gave proof he was worried. If it's true that they had spotty reception it must not have been that uncommon to not respond immediately, maybe that reception wasn't quite as bad as they claim because if it was BM would have worried quite often in the past too. Why was he so quick to worry May 10th in the a.m.?

 

[susiQ]

BBM:

Not to split hairs here, but it was actually "3-3o hours" that BM spent fully and cooperatively answering all of LE's questions.

Not 30 hours.

3-30 hours.

Let's make sure we give the man his full due, shall we?

JMO.

I just don’t believe it GK! Who on God’s green earth could listen to BM for 90 hours without going bats h i t crazy!!!??? It’s just not humanly possible

 

[MassGuy]

And/or distinctive dirt/substrate. I guess we don't yet know if he had the urge to change out that scoop bucket in the dead of night.

The fact that he mentioned the discrepancy to Lauren, tells me that law enforcement probably thought it was a big deal. It sounds like they caught him in a lie.

Barry did admit an inconsistency in one timeline he provided to investigators.

“It was only because I didn’t know the time that I did something, a mechanical thing, to my bobcat,” he said. “I was confused and I just found out my wife was missing, and I was a little bit not in my right mind when they were asking me these questions, but I did the best I could and I answered everything. I never once declined any interview.”

ETALink“People don’t know the truth”: Suzanne Morphew’s husband breaks silence after three months | FOX21 News Colorado

 

[susiQ]

This case has a lot of lion. MOO.

And a “cat” named Bob!

 

[MassGuy]

I just messaged Lauren to see if she was going to be doing another Facebook Live, or going on Profiling Evil in the near future. Her response was “tonight.” My guess is that means Profiling Evil. I’m sure we’ll see Tweets from either her or those guys at some point.

 

[Tate123]

Maybe I'm the odd one out..... if my husband had to set up a job on Mothers Day, it wouldn't bother me in the least bit. I know that him being gone pays our bills. I dont need breakfast in bed with flowers and the whole nine yards.... I know my husband loves me and appreciates what I do for our kids. How do you know that SM didn't feel the same way about Mothers day? Ot could have been, oh hubby will be out of town and girls will be gone. We will just pick another day to do Mothers Day celebration. Not everyone's world stops bc its Mothers Day.

Yes, so he was by himself?? And your point about that is what? Normally there is not a whole crew going to set up the jobsite. It is mostly the head guy that gets everything set out and how he wants it ........BEFORE his crew arrives to actually do the job.

And your pfft at the end was really not needed.

Jmho

bbm
If Suzanne wasn't missing...nothing about Mothers Day would be too significant..but she is.

 

[swedeheart]

What's weird to me is that he text her to say he was worried as if leaving that message in text was "proof" he was worried AND I've been married a loooong time and many times I don't answer letting the dogs out, taking a shower, drying my hair, at work, in a store etc etc. NEVER ever has my husband told me he was worried in that short time span. Another words putting it in a text gave proof he was worried. If it's true that they had spotty reception it must not have been that uncommon to not respond immediately, maybe that reception wasn't quite as bad as they claim because if it was BM would have worried quite often in the past too. Why was he so quick to worry May 10th in the a.m.?

true. at what point was there a "worrying" silence from SM only hours from his departure from the house? if he had left her there, sleeping at 5am, at what point does he get worried enough to call a neighbor? wouldn't you, naturally, assume your wife was doing other things and getting on with her day? perhaps the immediacy of his suspicious nature is telling.

 

[happyday]

Are we sure he was building the house for his mom, and not for himself - pending a separation? Not disputing - I’m asking because I can’t find anything about this other house, and I’m sure it’s been discussed. Just can’t locate it.

Iirc, its not MSM, rather a rumor/hearsay. She is not sleuthable so its left at an assumption. I think. Jmho.

Thank you @KLM6 —I couldn’t remember where that came from so MOO. Too late to edit my post, but it still means the same to me no matter who he is building it for. Buying a lot, planning and building a house for anyone when your wife is missing and you’re in the middle of a huge investigation is weird. IMO.

 

[allyoucantleavebehind]

Sometimes I wonder if he realized it was even mother's day. (if he's the guilty party)

Just doesn't make much sense, if planned, to do it on mother's day (er night before?).

Wouldn't he realize his daughter's would be trying to get a hold of her rather quickly?
Not to mention others trying to wish her a happy mother's day etc. I'm assuming to which there was no replies back all day.
Wouldn't he also realize it's somewhat sketch to be working mother's day (a sunday) to fix a year old screw up...during a pandemic, no less.


But then again Frazee chose Thanksgiving knowingly, so who knows. I don't have the rational of killers, apparently.

This is why I don’t think he planned it—I think SM probably commented on being lonely and Mother’s Day was part of that convo and a conflict erupted and BM lost his temper and the rest was an attempt to cover it.

On that note, who plans a lonely Mother’s Day for a wife living with cancer? Definitely some friction suggested in this. MOO

 

[allyoucantleavebehind]

true. at what point was there a "worrying" silence from SM only hours from his departure from the house? if he had left her there, sleeping at 5am, at what point does he get worried enough to call a neighbor? wouldn't you, naturally, assume your wife was doing other things and getting on with her day? perhaps the immediacy of his suspicious nature is telling.

yes!!! Exactly!!

 

[Fireflize]

And a “cat” named Bob!

It won't be long til LE collars that "cat" and then Bob's your uncle. Moo and Meow

 

[Poedelini]

I just messaged Lauren to see if she was going to be doing another Facebook Live, or going on Profiling Evil in the near future. Her response was “tonight.” My guess is that means Profiling Evil. I’m sure we’ll see Tweets from either her or those guys at some point.

The train is moving people.