Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #41

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MassGuy said:
The damage is done, and a narrative has formed that’s going to spread all over social media.

It’s already happening, and I get the impression that we’ll see some sort of an apology at some point.

I think he thought they were close, and he let his frustration get the better of him.
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His experience speaks for itself. I do not believe an apology is in order.
 
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CM said that Andy has stated that if LE don't process the site/s then he will not be going back home. He mentioned that if LE haven't sealed off the sites, then Andy can legally gain consent from the land owner/s to dig up the tree. I admire his dedication and can imagine how hard this situation must be for AM.

I'm thinking of that metaphor, the squeaky wheel gets the oil and hoping that AM's voice gets louder and louder to the point where the Sherriff will act ethically.
 
swedeheart said:
is it possible they released the scene and disappeared to see if BM or one his goons would try to show up there and tamper with something? that seems too outrageous, and even too dumb of a possible BM move. and surely chris wouldn't tell andy to sit out there with that as a risk. i don't know. i'm a bit stumped by this move.
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that thought went through my mind also.
If we go back and disect when things started to go south, I believe it's when LS named the 2
Barry reps who strong armed MG.
By her naming these 2 and calling them out,
GD and T?, someone would take notice and start asking them questions of their involvement. At least this is what "should" have happened.
Why were these 2 trying to help out BM?
Around that same time PE started with the comments, others need to come forward, we know who you are, etc. There were comrades of BM who were not being co-operative w/ LE.,

IMO.
this is when things started to get strange.

Long term families in Salida have strong local connections. Sheriff is long time Salida local even though he worked in Denver some years.
He's a Chaffee County boy, born and raised.

The criticism of the sheriff dept. maybe deserved. Maybe LS was hinting about the stonewalling rightfully. Maybe she sniffed some things just weren't right.
For some strange reasons her boss acquiesced and took her off the case.
Then we see the sheriff's office pull back on promised assistance so that by the first day of the search CCSO was barely involved compared to what they had originally promised as support to AM.
I did notice that AM said most of his info on his sister's case came from FBI.

I think we have internal politics going on w/ CCSO. And the optics are not favorable for them.
Where will this all sift out ? Who knows.
 
SeattleStew said:
That is weird as heck. Is that a separate little tree? Or not?

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That looks like a small White Pine tree or some other type of evergreen. If there are no other white pines or whatever species that tree is in the surrounding areas, that would be a sign it was possibly planted there. The rocks sure look like they were placed there by human hands.

Certain trees and plants can pop up in other areas as birds will eat the seeds off of plants and trees and then as the birds fly to various ranges they can deposit the seeds in their droppings and some end up sprouting. So it can be possible to have a species of a plant or tree that ends up in an area where there are not other trees like it but it usually is an exception. Most times you will usually see other trees of the same variety in the surrounding area.

Years ago we used to drive around and look for Asparagus plants that sprouted under telephone lines from birds. There were a couple huge Asparagus farms nearby and the birds would transport the seeds to the surrounding roads under the telephone wires. We would find fresh Asparagus in a certain time of year under the telephone lines along all the roads for miles around the farms.
JMO
 
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enelram said:
that thought went through my mind also.
If we go back and disect when things started to go south, I believe it's when LS named the 2
Barry reps who strong armed MG.
By her naming these 2 and calling them out,
GD and T?, someone would take notice and start asking them questions of their involvement. At least this is what "should" have happened.
Why were these 2 trying to help out BM?
Around that same time PE started with the comments, others need to come forward, we know who you are, etc. There were comrades of BM who were not being co-operative w/ LE.,

IMO.
this is when things started to get strange.

Long term families in Salida have strong local connections. Sheriff is long time Salida local even though he worked in Denver some years.
He's a Chaffee County boy, born and raised.

The criticism of the sheriff dept. maybe deserved. Maybe LS was hinting about the stonewalling rightfully. Maybe she sniffed some things just weren't right.
For some strange reasons her boss acquiesced and took her off the case.
Then we see the sheriff's office pull back on promised assistance so that by the first day of the search CCSO was barely involved compared to what they had originally promised as support to AM.
I did notice that AM said most of his info on his sister's case came from FBI.

I think we have internal politics going on w/ CCSO. And the optics are not favorable for them.
Where will this all sift out ? Who knows.
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here's the dr. phil link. guess it's coming out on oct. 2.
Exclusive: Brother Finds Possible Break In Case Of Missing Colorado Mom
 
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EggSalad said:
I believe what we know via MSM is that MG said she was afraid of BM and has moved to South Dakota. As for her age, I think you’d have to draw your own conclusions from her picture. I would guess she is under 30.

MG has also claimed that this whole ordeal has torn her family apart.

It’s just odd that someone who might have lived in Salida their whole life would up and move to SD in the middle of this and tear their family apart. The reason for the move mist be very, very significant.



1. What would he think the realistic annual revenue would be for a 3-4 employee contracting company?

2. In his experience, what are tell tale signs that a small business is involved in money laundering?

3. What are the most common financial crimes committed by small business?
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I remember plumbing service companies who do only residential repairs averaging 100k gross per truck in the 90' s and now closer to 250k gross - with about a 15 to 25% net to owner after labor and parts overhead etc. It takes 3 or more trucks to get off the tools yourself and just "sell and manage". Construction , which is closer to what the usual suspect seems to be involved in, has a much less profit margin due to bidding and due to all the material required to construct not repair something- I venture to guess 10% to maybe 15% profit of gross sales-would be average. So 1 million gross would be 100k net but seldom more than 200k net. The value of such a company is way more for repeating service repair customers as opposed to contract bid new construction and many feel instead of the 2 or 3 times the annual net, the most many plumbs would pay is 20 or 30 k for service customers phone numbers-website etc plus assets (tools trucks) and a new construction only company would be valued on only the signed contracts which as I said net 10%. plus trucks assets etc. Its super hard to sell one and most are sold to employees . As small as he seems it appears he was just buying himself a job as opposed to going ful tilt 20 truck deal- Motown IMO
 
Sheriff downplays reports of remains found in Suzanne Morphew disappearance

The Chaffee County sheriff downplayed reports Monday that cadaver dogs picked up the scent of human remains near the family home of a 49-year-old Colorado woman who disappeared on Mother's Day.

“Contrary to some media reports, there have been no remains found in the Suzanne Morphew case,” the department said in a Facebook post. “There have been a handful of potential leads that have been pursued as a result of the volunteer search; however, nothing has been identified as related to the disappearance.”


Andy Moorman, Morphew’s brother, says the FBI has taken over that part of the search, but he’s not optimistic about the development. The area where the dogs picked up a scent is in Poncha Springs on property owned by Morphew’s family.

“There’s no point in speculating,” Moorman told The Gazette. “Reporters saw dog behavior and jumped the gun.”

Moorman, on his fifth day of a massive volunteer search for Morphew, said the German shepherds have previously “hit” on a riverfront property where her husband, Barry, had been working for his landscape business, and on the entrance to a housing development, but he says he doesn’t think the scent search will yield answers to where she is. Barry Morphew has theorized his wife was killed by a mountain lion.

On Sunday, Moorman said, his brother-in-law allowed searchers to comb the grounds of the family’s $1.5 million home, but they didn’t find any clues. Morphew’s decision to allow search teams on his property was a shift from Saturday, Moorman says, when Morphew came out with a gun on his shoulder and asked searchers to leave.

So far, Moorman has found no physical evidence to help unravel the mystery of his sister’s bizarre disappearance.

“It’s exhausting,” he said. “We’ve found some things: a blanket, a towel and a tarp. We’ve turned them over to the Colorado Bureau of Investigation.”
 
enelram said:
that thought went through my mind also.
If we go back and disect when things started to go south, I believe it's when LS named the 2
Barry reps who strong armed MG.
By her naming these 2 and calling them out,
GD and T?, someone would take notice and start asking them questions of their involvement. At least this is what "should" have happened.
Why were these 2 trying to help out BM?
Around that same time PE started with the comments, others need to come forward, we know who you are, etc. There were comrades of BM who were not being co-operative w/ LE.,

IMO.
this is when things started to get strange.

Long term families in Salida have strong local connections. Sheriff is long time Salida local even though he worked in Denver some years.
He's a Chaffee County boy, born and raised.

The criticism of the sheriff dept. maybe deserved. Maybe LS was hinting about the stonewalling rightfully. Maybe she sniffed some things just weren't right.
For some strange reasons her boss acquiesced and took her off the case.
Then we see the sheriff's office pull back on promised assistance so that by the first day of the search CCSO was barely involved compared to what they had originally promised as support to AM.
I did notice that AM said most of his info on his sister's case came from FBI.

I think we have internal politics going on w/ CCSO. And the optics are not favorable for them.
Where will this all sift out ? Who knows.
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This post expresses what a lot of us believe.
 
I think the next 24-48 hours will be telling. If we don’t see the sites of the dogs hits being processed, I’m not sure they will be processed. And if that is the case, I think AM is going to really start to speak openly. He’ll have nothing to lose and brought what he feels is a ton of effort and value to the investigation only for it to be for naught.

I’m hopeful we’ll see photos today or those sites being processed and we can all go back to thinking we’re close to having closure.
 
Also, LS saying that she “can’t talk about it” strikes me as she has had to sign a non disclosure agreement or confidentiality agreement or something along those lines.

Not sure why she’d have to do that but that is what it feels like to me.
 
EggSalad said:
I think the next 24-48 hours will be telling. If we don’t see the sites of the dogs hits being processed, I’m not sure they will be processed. And if that is the case, I think AM is going to really start to speak openly. He’ll have nothing to lose and brought what he feels is a ton of effort and value to the investigation only for it to be for naught.

I’m hopeful we’ll see photos today or those sites being processed and we can all go back to thinking we’re close to having closure.
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I am kind of on board with this, but in my mind one of the things going on is that LE is trying to tamp down interest and attention before they process the sites. And, since there is not a whole lot of local MSM already, we may not have a good idea of what and when they are doing anything. Which is fine to me, as long as they do it!

eta: I also have some suspicion that AM is in on what LE is thinking while PE is not.
 
elmomom said:
I am kind of on board with this, but in my mind one of the things going on is that LE is trying to tamp down interest and attention before they process the sites. And, since there is not a whole lot of local MSM already, we may not have a good idea of what and when they are doing anything. Which is fine to me, as long as they do it!

eta: I also have some suspicion that AM is in on what LE is thinking while PE is not.
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OR...L.E. is sweating the usual suspect out and maybe going to pull him in for another interview and offer him a deal to make the case ironclad with a confession with no death penalty and accidental death or some type of lesser charge instead pre-meditated first degree?
 
IMO - All handlers I know of working dogs (HRD, SAR-live find) work at the request of LE ONLY, period. There’s a reason LE trusts them and has a working relationship with them.
Those that have been around long enough in the working dog community remember the case of dog handler Sandra Anderson and how this caused LE everywhere to really take a look at their resources. This case was such a shame for the working dog community. An Eagle-Eyed Investigation?

IMO Not all handlers and dogs are created equal. They’re just not. Some handlers who do not have a relationship with LE will reach out to family members of this missing and say “hey, I’m here to help but the Sheriff won’t let me’. Family in return get’s very upset because they don’t understand. They don’t understand why they can’t SEE any action. These folks show up on the sidelines of search areas sometimes and you can spot them a mile away – large flashy decals on their vehicles, as an example. They also overstate their dogs abilities. They may work alone or on an unproven team that get’s together here and there, and does the bare minimum to keep certs active. Sometimes they don’t even have them. Sometimes they desperately want to be part of the action. Now, before anyone jumps on my comments here – I am not saying that’s the case here. We don’t know, regardless of what some hosts say. Also, many handlers will not speak to the media.

The only example I can think of and it’s my opinion. Volunteer search for a presumed murder victim - dog indicated on disturbed dirt. LE comes out and actually started to dig, nothing. Then the dog indicated on another area before LE will dig, they call in their trusted handler who request NOT to know any areas of interest and wants to come in blind and work his dog and requests everyone stay on the sidelines (no way would he allow a non team member or non LE follow him around with his dog while they are working). His dog does not alert, at all. The detective tells him now the other handler is now saying that it must have been a false alert because of buried vegetation that was given off methane gas. Detective wants to know what he thinks of that – handler says no clue, I can only speak for my own dog. Don’t know that dog, don’t know that handler.

The situation that is playing out right now is sad and one that I was afraid of. I never believed LE was going to give any investigation areas of interest for AM to search. I anticipated tension would happen. I don’t at all believe there’s any be-hind-the-scenes collaboration between AM, LE and the PE guys. We are not watching a performance that will hopefully catch the bad guy off guard. I don’t believe there’s any sort of coverup, the mountains don’t hold secrets, there’s no puppet master people are afraid of or powerful people that are preventing local LE, CBI and the FBI from doing their jobs. IMO

I feel so bad for AM right now. I cannot stress that enough.
 
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