Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #45

[al66pine]

Workarounds, Yrs Ago?

As I understand, defeating any part pf the Bobcat diagnostic system immobilizes the machine. I once bypassed a Ford keylock ignition with a pair a sheep shears, but I couldn't do that today. Remember, that GPS is there to protect the manufacturer more than so the owner knows where he/she has taken it. IMO

@Dave F. bbm I think you are being too modest.

If we could locate that same model Ford w its less-techie interlock, I bet, w sheep shears in hand you could start that baby right up. Roar, runs like a dream. W a current model? Not so sure.

Thanks for all the info and insight in your posts.

 

[Murphy1950]

Really wish we could get confirmation of that “Sandwich” sighting. And more info about BM digging through trash at the Poncha Market for the blue helmet, (if that is even true).




jmo

RSBM

I am highly skeptical of the "sandwich shop" sighting. As to the Poncha Market incident, I feel that is solid information.
.....And more info about BM digging through trash at the Poncha Market for the blue helmet, (if that is even true).

I heard this today, NG, It is Chris from P/E who says he learned that detail. and "interviewed/spoke with " the person at the market.
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but i found a boy who works there him outside and what was interesting about the conversation was he looks out uh there's their store is closed right it's it's in the in the early evening hours and long story short he looks out and sees Barry going through the trash outside and he's like who's this guy and he knocks on the door the door opens and the first thing out of his mouth according to this witness was hey i'm looking for a baby blue bicycle helmet @Knox

Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

 

[MassGuy]

Sooo, we have BM saying there were two witnesses who saw SM Sunday, and then AM saying she was seen at sandwich
shop at 4:00 Sun.
If AM is correct, I just can’t fit BM into timeline. Therefore, is this another of AMs poor memory or miss statements?
Was she seen or not? Or Is AMs time off?

I’m gonna doubt AM on this one, judging by timing of searches...I think the daughters’ attempts to contact SM had to begin before 4pm. JMVHO more salt...

AM didn’t say Suzanne was seen at a sandwich shop on Sunday, he said she was seen on Saturday.

As Suzanne apparently stopped communication on Saturday morning, that means Andy either has the day wrong, or that sighting is false altogether.

If Suzanne was in fact seen on Sunday by witnesses, then none of law enforcement’s actions make sense. If she wasn’t seen, then it all fits.

Besides that, I don’t trust Barry as far as I can throw him. If Suzanne was seen by two people on Sunday, he would have identified them.

There’s no way that a man who bashes witnesses and loving family members, doesn’t mention something that can clear him.

 

[ChuckMaureen]

For anyone looking for the program link to the long transcript posted above Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

not a fan

 

[Feistyomi]

I'm pretty sure that she was supposedly seen at the sandwich shop at 4:00 on SATURDAY. Anyone ???

Aaah, you are correct, I think NG was confused, will use Sat for my guideline, my apologies.

 

[steeltowngirl]

AM didn’t say Suzanne was seen at a sandwich shop on Sunday, he said she was seen on Saturday.

As Suzanne apparently stopped communication on Saturday morning, that means Andy either has the day wrong, or that sighting is false altogether.

If Suzanne was in fact seen on Sunday by witnesses, then none of law enforcement’s actions make sense. If she wasn’t seen, then it all fits.

Besides that, I don’t trust Barry as far as I can throw him. If Suzanne was seen by two people on Sunday, he would have identified them.

There’s no way that a man who bashes witnesses and loving family members, doesn’t mention something that can clear him.

Did they finally nail down the time of the last text communication with the friend as Saturday AM? I have been so confused by that part of the timeline. Well.. by a lot of the timeline actually.. but that last text with friend is a biggie.

 

[jakat]

If usual suspect was with bobcat- he must either have had to use his truck that pulls it with the gps tracker (which means L.E. knows where the truck was) .... or a borrowed truck no GPS? Or.... drove the bobcat from its parking spot somewhere close? Or is this a hint of when he used it "...
11:30 p.m.: Sat
-A neighbor of a home being built in Salida hears heavy machinery running for about a half hour..........." I wonder how far from the river beach sand raked Andys crew searched? If anywhere. I think the noise heard could have been the burying or hiding. And a new search of site is called for. IMO
IMO

ITA. Just to rule it in or out.

 

[MassGuy]

Did they finally nail down the time of the last text communication with the friend as Saturday AM? I have been so confused by that part of the timeline. Well.. by a lot of the timeline actually.. but that last text with friend is a biggie.

It’s changed three times, so who the hell knows at this point.

Even if communication did cease on Saturday we 8AM, which is the latest time we’ve been given, that doesn’t even mean it was her.

So I think the murder window is late Friday into some point on Saturday.

 

[oviedo]

Nancy Grace Transcript:

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00:00
[Music]
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crime stories with nancy grace
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a beautiful young mom goes missing
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in colorado of all days on mother's day
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how did that happen of course i'm
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talking about
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suzanne more few and in the last hours
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breaking news in the case
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i'm nancy grace this is crime stories
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and i want to thank you for being with
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us here
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at fox nation in siriusxm 111.
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right now her brother andrew moorman
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seemingly taking the lead
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and searching for his missing sister
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take a listen
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now to our friend andy mormont speaking
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to dr phil
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do you believe that they have found your
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sister i think there's a good
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possibility
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and can you describe what the area is is
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this a
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mine shaft is it a grave site is it
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disturbed ground is it an air shaft what
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kind of area
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do they hit on well one of them's a
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riverfront
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another one is a tree planting and the
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third one
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is a an addition being put in
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and the entrance area with blocks are
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these areas that would lend themselves
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to
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hiding uh body or body parts
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yes absolutely so when those dogs hit
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what was the first thing that went
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through your mind andy
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i just said damn i can't
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can't believe anybody would do this did
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you think it was something else or
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did you think they found her
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i think there was a good chance we
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should find out in the coming days and i
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always knew
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nothing good was going to come out of
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this film you're hearing
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suzanne murphy's brother andrew speaking
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publicly about the search for suzanne
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as of right now the indications are that
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when the cadaver dogs hit at that
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location that it was
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not suzanne morphew how did the whole
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thing begin take a listen to
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this wanted to wish her another happy
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mother's day
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got no answer they called their father
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said dad we can't get a hold of mom he
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tried he
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and he asked the neighbor to go over and
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see if she was home
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so the neighbor goes over opens the
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garage the cars are all home she returns
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to her phone
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calls barry cars are home barry says
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what about her bicycle
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lady says i'll have to go back over so
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she runs back over looks no bicycle
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the odd thing to me was at midnight
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on saturday night i want you to realize
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she was seen in town with barry
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getting a sandwich at 4 4 p.m
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at midnight somebody friended
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all of the guys my age
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on her facebook at midnight
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at midnight yeah my theory is she was
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killed after four
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her facebook was manipulated at midnight
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she was hidden between midnight and four
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am on the
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mother's day morning you were hearing
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her brother
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suzanne murphy's brother speaking to our
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friend phil
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long story short we're learning so much
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more about the timeline
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that suzanne morphy was seeing on
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saturday
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around four o'clock and that somehow i'm
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just
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learning this her facebook was uh
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used at midnight to friend
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a lot of guys online with me an
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all-star panel to break you down the
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author of red flags and she's the host
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of live with dr wendy kcbq
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dr angela arnold renowned psychiatrist
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joining me out of the atlanta
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jurisdiction at angelaarnoldmd.com
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fox 21 colorado springs news reporter
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lauren scharf
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on the case from the beginning two
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special guests joining us mike king 40
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years law enforcement
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um he is the co-host creator of
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profiling
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evil at profilingevil.com
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with me his co-host chris mcdonough
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25 years police officer southern
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california
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co-host profilingevilprofilingevil.com
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they've been on the case from the very
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beginning but first
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to crimeonline.com investigative
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reporter ellen
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killoran ellen what can you tell me
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about what andrew moorman the brother
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just
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says to feel you know i've been
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on day one ellen you and i locked horns
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and went round and round and round
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because i kept saying
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who keeps saying she was on her bike
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did anybody ever see her on her bike our
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very first conversation the banner was
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was she ever honored by now i'm
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understanding it was
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barry morphy the husband that first said
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where's her bike did i get that right
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ellen
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yes you did we learned more in the last
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week or
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so about the timeline of suzanne
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morphy's disappearance than we have in
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the preceding
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nearly five months we know now
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that she was seen at 4 00 p.m
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the day before she was reported missing
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with her husband
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barry moorhew by if we compare that to
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what we know about
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barry morphy's activity the next sunday
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mother's day
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the day that she was reported missing it
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seems that barry morphew
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would have had to arrive either
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very late saturday night or very early
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sunday morning
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to go to broomfield colorado for a
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landscaping job
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a landscape escaping job that from what
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we understand was never completed
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okay i'm just trying to take in
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everything you said uh ek it's like me
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drinking from a fire hydrant it's
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so much at once but let me just
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go back what you were saying everything
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you just said
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is valuable to me so the first person
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that ever said what about the bike
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was barry morphy is that right yes
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that is what we understand when the
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neighbor went
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to suzanne's home to check on her
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because her daughters couldn't reach her
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she first looked
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into the garage to see if the cars were
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there the cars were there
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apparently barry then contacted her and
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said but what about the bike
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it was him who suggested that the
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neighbor
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look for the bike which of course the
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neighbor didn't find
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and to you lauren scharf joining me at
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fox 21 colorado springs news reporter on
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the case from the get-go
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lauren what is this about her facebook
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she go
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suzanne morphy apparently goes on her
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facebook
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at midnight that night after she spotted
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that day at four
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now i think we're talking about saturday
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night
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and she starts friending all these guys
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who is she friending
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i mean that's a good question nancy i've
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spoken to barry moore a few multiple
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times and he has not
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once ever mentioned facebook or any
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activities that suzanne had on facebook
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he did mention that you know on sundays
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she would typically like to take bike
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rides
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interesting joining me along with lauren
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sharp farks21 and
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ellenkalorincrimoline.com
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mike king and chris mcdonough just both
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of them
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won has 40 years in law enforcement one
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has 25
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in uh as a cop 13 is homicide
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first you guys just jump in and lauren
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ek that goes for you too
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if you have a fact that is relevant to
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what we're talking about at that moment
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mike king what can you tell me about
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suzanne morphew reportedly
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going on at midnight now listen
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if i catch my husband like in a closet
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friending people at midnight
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i can tell you right now all he double
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gonna break loose
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because we get up at five o'clock in the
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morning and hit the ground
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running and um i would that that would
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just make me
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concerned what do you know mike king
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yeah that's really the really the big
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questions that keep popping up in these
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red flags that we keep talking about
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nancy and
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we go back and we look at probabilities
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versus possibilities and there are so
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many stinking possibilities in a deal
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like this but
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we start thinking about what is really
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probable and what is
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probable based on suzanne's behavior
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you sound like me making a closing
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argument
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what's probable and what's possible i
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mean it's possible little green man flew
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down from mars and took her right
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but that's not probable what is probable
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what's the likely what's her facebook
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activity what's her routine i mean
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to get one at midnight and start
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friending people who was she friending
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chris mcdonough
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yeah sure when i hey nancy when i talked
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to uh uh
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andy uh he told me directly
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that his older uh brother started to his
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friends started getting facebook
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messages
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uh from suzanne and i mean that was just
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like you gotta be kidding me
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and so yeah to your point uh i'm
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tracking you 100
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it just doesn't fit when you say
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facebook
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messages so is this all these people are
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getting messages from her
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for the first time the night before she
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goes missing
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yeah not messages i'm sorry but friend
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and they they were
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friended uh yeah for the first time and
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by the way
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you know they grew up together right
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they knew it they they've known each
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other
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all their lives and all of a sudden
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they're you know that night she decides
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to come
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everybody we're talking about the
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disappearance of suzanne morphew
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and we've just come upon between lauren
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scharf ellen killoran
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and mike king chris mcdonough something
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very interesting
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what about it wendy patrick suddenly
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she's up framing people she's known her
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whole life
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this is enormously suspicious this is a
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huge
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bright red flag routine custom practice
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what somebody normally does what time
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they normally go to bed
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and everybody that's talking about
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receiving requests from suzanne
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no they're receiving friend requests
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from her account
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and therein lies the rub if she gets up
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like you do nancy at 5 a.m i guarantee
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you she's not up fronting people at
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midnight
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nor do we have any indication she uses
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facebook a lot so
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this is a this is something that is
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probably one of the pieces of evidence
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that's going to be
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most important in trying to figure out
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not only who else might have access to
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her account
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but whether or not she is still alive
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where she is
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why she would do this and if she has
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access to facebook and it's really her
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this probably is not the way she would
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be spending her time at this time
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and again according to chris mcdonough
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and mike king
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who are the co-hosts of profiles
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and awesome awesome website
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uh and podcast right guys let me ask you
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about this chris mcdonough mike king
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i'll just go to you mike
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um a lot of people well actually just
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been barry morphy the husband
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has said law enforcement has bungled the
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case from the beginning
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and that he's their scapegoat
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i'm sure that local police have pulled
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up her facebook account and looked
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at her activity to determine is this
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kind of thing
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she would do yeah exactly and i think
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the thing that was so troubling to us
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is he immediately throws out uh four
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scenarios he
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he talks about the bike ride and the
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crash on the bike he then brings up
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this wild story of a cougar attack and
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then he
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um brings in the boogeyman and and then
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finally he starts pointing at well maybe
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it's someone that's
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it's known to her and so what we tried
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to do is go down and just start looking
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at those individually and breaking them
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down and of course the first one and the
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easiest one
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to go after was the mountain lion story
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well isn't it true
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um that i do a lot of camping
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a lot of rving uh worked in a national
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forest it's my understanding when there
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is an animal attack
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there would be evidence of that there
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would be blood at the spot
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of the attack most likely you would see
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drag marks
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uh i mean the cougar cougar i'm doing
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that with air quoties
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would not put her body in their suv and
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drive off with it
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you would see drag marks you would see
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indications the body had been dragged
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and typically they don't drag
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the body that far away they eat
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it and they will leave behind maybe
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bones clothing that is torn off the body
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none of that existed
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absolutely that was troubling to us
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there was no crime scene no
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attack scene no artifact on the ground
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to suggest there was even a scuffle
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everything that we could see from
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looking at other predacious
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movements is that there are drag marks
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like a small deer beam drug even this is
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a
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woman who's over a hundred pound uh and
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and dragging her would not be an easy
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feat and the fact is that a cat is only
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going to carry its prey
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maybe 450 feet at a maximum
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and then it's going to come back and
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it's going to be kind of gruesome to say
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but it's going to come back and consume
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that for a number of days it just just
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doesn't fit
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you know to you chris mcdonough 25 years
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cop 13 is homicide at the very beginning
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morphy who has declared his innocence
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let's just be firm about that stated
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that
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an animal attacked her but cops said at
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the get-go this was no animal attack
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do i have that part right yes yeah you
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doing now
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you know i'm learning more from andrew
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moorman than i
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i am through the in throughout the
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entire process
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um take a listen now to our friend alan
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jeannette at cbs4 denver
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the hardest thing she's a beloved member
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of our family and
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the sweetest person that you've ever met
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the nephew of 49 year old suzanne
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morphew talking about what it's like to
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go through the difficulty of a search
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that started
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after she went missing during a sunday
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bike ride family has said her husband
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barry was out of town
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in denver a friend called authorities
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when morpheu
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didn't return the bike was found on
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sunday the day that she went missing
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the sheriff has not yet shared
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information on the bike but has told
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cbs4 the reason for her disappearance is
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probably not animals extensive searching
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in chaffey county about 20 miles west of
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salida
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has not brought an answer on what
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happened to more few
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you know to lauren schar fox 21 news you
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spoke with barry morphy who says he was
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devastated looking for his wife putting
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together the pieces
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he refused to do an in-person interview
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and did not
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want your phone interview recorded
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morpheus suggested suzanne may have been
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attacked by an
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animal a run-in with an unknown person
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or someone she knew
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what tell me what happened on that phone
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call
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yeah nancy so i've spoken to him
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multiple times and the first time
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he did mention the attack on a mountain
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or a mountain lion attack
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but the second interview i did with him
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over the phone where i shared
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uh his audio from that he he didn't
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mention the mountain lion at all
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he he strictly talked about what had
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happened
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that weekend in broomfield and how his
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employees
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were there trying to fix a retaining
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wall in broomfield and
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and that's where he was coming back from
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okay wait a minute
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he said he was on his way back
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when he got the call about suzanne
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missing back to salida
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from broomfield because i thought he was
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in broomfield
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when he got the call yes he was there
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supposedly
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meeting with other people to work on the
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construction site
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and that's when he got the call but
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you're telling me he was already
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on his way back yeah before having even
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met up with his
17:59
co-workers yes the co-workers tell me
18:02
they never saw barry
18:03
that weekend but what does he say yeah
18:06
he he
18:07
he never mentioned that he saw his
18:08
co-workers at all either
18:10
no no what i mean is he goes all the way
18:13
out of town
18:14
uh mike king he goes all the way out of
18:16
town for a job
18:18
i believe on saturday night every
18:21
indication we have
18:22
is that he leaves sunday morning at 5 00
18:25
a.m
18:30
and then uh there's there's question
18:32
about at what time he hears this
18:34
even the most optimal and the most
18:36
optimistic
18:37
time is that he gets the word at 5 pm
18:40
but he still doesn't get home until
18:42
nine o'clock if we follow the draper
18:44
video and the
18:45
in the uh statements that barry makes in
18:47
the draper video
18:48
so that's four hours to make a two hour
18:51
drive which is also a little bit odd
18:53
when did he have the co-workers show up
18:55
saturday morning
19:01
so by that point he had already left
19:04
right chris mcdonough because what
19:06
lauren trump is saying is that
19:08
he was already on his way back home
19:11
when he got the news that's what he told
19:14
her yeah and that's one of the
19:16
interesting things here nancy as his
19:17
timeline is so
19:20
messed up and and i it actually gets
19:22
even a little bit better because
19:24
during the search process uh
19:27
there was a clerk that i actually
19:29
interviewed thanks to lauren
19:31
in terms of she she had talked to her
19:33
firsthand at that supermarket
19:34
but i found a boy who works there
19:39
him outside and what was interesting
19:41
about the conversation
19:43
was he looks out uh there's their store
19:46
is closed
19:46
right it's it's in the in the early
19:50
evening hours and
19:52
long story short he looks out and sees
19:54
barry going through the trash
19:56
outside and he's like
20:00
who's this guy and he knocks on the door
20:02
the door opens
20:03
and the first thing out of his mouth
20:06
according to this witness
20:07
was hey i'm looking for a baby blue
20:10
bicycle helmet
20:11
have you seen a baby blue bicycle helmet
20:13
in the trash
20:15
and the clerk goes what and then the
20:18
manager steps up and says can we help
20:20
you and this is where the emptiness
20:23
note is written about what suzanne's
20:25
wearing
20:26
uh the bike helmet uh et cetera but no
20:28
description of suzanne
20:31
that was a huge huge red flag that mike
20:34
and i
20:35
uh you know put together along with
20:37
lauren early on
20:38
uh during this situation so that's new
20:41
information that
20:42
white france's first time
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20:54
crime stories with nancy grace
20:58
guys in the last hours we're getting a
21:01
flood of information about the
21:03
disappearance of suzanne morphew
21:06
her brother not her husband seems to be
21:08
leading the crusade to find her
21:11
with me an awesome panel including ellen
21:13
calor in crime online lauren scharf
21:16
fox 21 mike king chris mcdonough from
21:19
profiling evil
21:20
wendy patrick and dr angela arnold
21:23
i want to go back to what you were just
21:25
telling me
21:26
with me chris mcdonough mike king mike
21:28
king chris is saying that
21:30
somebody looks out a window and sees
21:32
morphew the husband
21:34
digging through trash when asked hey
21:36
what are you doing he says have you seen
21:38
a baby blue
21:39
bike helmet who spotted him
21:43
where is this and when is it i didn't
21:45
get that
21:46
yeah good it's the little market right
21:49
in town
21:50
and that's the it is the employee
21:53
a young man who's working there who
21:55
first notices this and has the first
21:57
conversation and then the store manager
22:00
actually has a conversation provides
22:03
barry with a piece of paper to write the
22:05
note that we now have
22:06
a copy of that says he's looking for the
22:08
blue helmet
22:10
the thing that was so odd is he's in the
22:12
garbage and the first thing out of his
22:13
mouth is i'm looking for a blue helmet
22:16
oh holy cow where did that come from
22:18
what day was this
22:20
it was tuesday the following uh couple
22:23
days after suzanne was reported missing
22:25
on that sunday why would he be looking
22:27
in a dump for that if he thought that
22:29
she had had a crash or been taken
22:31
by an animal why would he be looking
22:34
in the trash behind the little market
22:37
for a blue helmet and
22:39
another thing lauren scharf am i correct
22:42
that he told you he did not want that
22:43
phone call recorded
22:44
he did not want to do an in-person
22:45
interview yes that first um
22:48
call that was lasted 30 minutes yeah he
22:50
did not want that uh
22:52
audio shared and then um a couple weeks
22:55
later
22:55
he calls me back for an hour and that's
22:57
the audio that i shared
22:59
you know i just keep thinking about
23:02
everything you're telling me right now
23:04
and i'm projecting
23:06
i'm projecting when i learned my fiance
23:10
had been murdered
23:11
i remember the moment exactly
23:14
i'll never forget it maybe i wish i
23:16
could forget it
23:17
no no no i need to know and i need to
23:19
remember
23:20
but after all this time i remember it
23:22
like it was yesterday and i'm not
23:24
able to nail down chris mcdonald
23:28
ellen kellorn if you know just jump in
23:30
ellen don't hang back
23:32
did he learn his wife was missing
23:37
at the hotel where he had
23:40
left sunday morning from home presumably
23:43
leaving her alive and well
23:45
he drives about three hours away away
23:48
for a job did he learn
23:50
there or was he already in a route
23:54
back home because why do you bring a
23:56
whole crew of people to come do a
23:58
construction site
24:00
build a retainer wall and then you don't
24:02
stay to meet them i thought the whole
24:03
point was
24:04
he was going to scope the site on
24:06
mother's day
24:07
and was going to meet up with them
24:11
when did he learn chris mcdonna
24:14
what is he saying about when he learned
24:18
suzanne's missing well there's a couple
24:20
of uh
24:21
different types or different time frames
24:24
nancy
24:24
one of them is around five o'clock
24:27
p.m sunday the other is a possibility of
24:32
mid-afternoon sunday
24:33
and both of these uh one is from
24:36
uh barry himself the 5 pm the others
24:39
from
24:40
employees because when they got up there
24:43
on sunday
24:44
it was kind of a rush thing uh it was a
24:46
situation where
24:48
you know he basically calls him and says
24:50
you know calls one
24:51
particular witness and says look we got
24:53
to get up there we got this job we got
24:55
to fix this wall etc i'll meet you up
24:57
there
24:58
well that other that other employee and
25:00
i'll let
25:01
uh lauren speak to this that employee
25:04
uh basically says that around 4 00 a.m
25:08
not to confuse the issue but around 4 00
25:11
a.m senators
25:13
sunday morning she believes she hears
25:16
barry's truck
25:17
uh outside of her apartment and so
25:20
she gets into a panic like all right we
25:23
got to get going
25:24
and by that time you know he's gone
25:27
and then the phone calls comes into this
25:29
person who says hey get the crew
25:31
together
25:32
i'll meet you up there and by that time
25:34
they're on the road around 11 00 a.m
25:37
sunday and so by that so it's between
25:39
11.
25:40
okay this is getting very convoluted
25:44
um yeah and that's not your fault chris
25:47
mcdonough
25:48
is because the nature of the way we're
25:49
learning the facts we're getting
25:51
different stories
25:52
ek ellen killorn crime online when do we
25:56
think
25:56
morpheus says he learned his wife is
25:58
missing he told me
26:00
that he left around five o'clock when he
26:02
learned that uh
26:04
you know he had a family emergency he
26:06
called his crew
26:07
around six thirds you're gonna have to
26:09
figure it out on their own
26:11
and uh that all they knew was that it
26:14
was a family emergency
26:15
hold on is this lauren talking lauren
26:18
okay tell me again did you say
26:19
five he learned at five p.m 5 p.m
26:22
sunday and she was reported missing
26:25
at least from the um you know
26:27
communication center in chaffee county
26:30
was at 5 40 6 00 p.m okay
26:33
wait a minute question to you lauren
26:35
scharf what time do they
26:36
i'm calling them co-workers i don't know
26:39
that they actually work together they
26:40
were summoned by him
26:42
to come to this to the scene to build a
26:43
retainer wall what time did they get
26:46
there and he was already gone lauren
26:47
they didn't even leave salida until
26:50
6 30. so they didn't even see each other
26:53
at all
26:54
okay guys when they were leaving they
26:56
got a call saying
26:57
he wasn't going to be there because of a
26:59
family emergency but to go ahead and
27:01
start the project
27:03
on monday morning take a listen to
27:05
suzanne's
27:06
brother andrew moorman speaking to
27:10
our friend dr phil the evi information
27:12
when he struck didn't line up though
27:14
he said he saw her at 5 00 a.m and he
27:16
did not
27:17
and how do you know that testimony from
27:20
an employee that he was rambling down
27:21
the road texting people at four in the
27:23
morning trying to get him to go to
27:24
broome field
27:25
so can't be at home at five
27:29
and talking to somebody on the road at
27:31
four right
27:32
i just so that the timeline doesn't add
27:35
up at all
27:36
yeah not at all you've got two nieces
27:38
malory
27:39
who's now 22 and macy who's 16.
27:42
would she go off riding by herself or
27:44
would she be in contact with them would
27:47
she go off the radar
27:49
for seven days and and have no
27:52
social media presence no presence
27:55
electronically for that period of time
27:58
with with her daughters
27:59
no absolutely not so what we're learning
28:02
from suzanne's mother
28:04
he says the evi i guess that's the
28:07
navigation on morphe's truck
28:09
doesn't fit what are we talking about
28:13
ellen calorin crime online
28:15
that is all he said but what it seems to
28:18
be
28:18
is that the whatever data tracking
28:21
device
28:22
was on murphy's truck barry morphy's
28:24
truck does not
28:25
line up with where he told police he was
28:29
at any at a given time of the of that
28:32
weekend
28:33
now police have never once commented
28:37
on his alibi or confirmed it
28:40
so i think that part of the reason why
28:42
there's so much confusion about this
28:44
timeline
28:44
is that a big a big part of this
28:47
timeline so far
28:48
has come from barry who may be
28:50
contradicting himself
28:52
there is a lot of confusion i don't
28:54
think that anyone i certainly can't say
28:55
with any certainty
28:56
where i think barry murphy was at you
28:59
know
29:00
every hour of the sunday that suzanne
29:03
morpheu
29:04
went missing so i would really like to
29:06
know
29:07
what he told police and how much does
29:10
what the data shows deviate from what he
29:13
told police
29:14
to dr angela arnold psychiatrist joining
29:16
me out of atlanta dr angie
29:18
i can tell you right now where i was and
29:21
where my husband was where my children
29:23
were
29:23
this past sunday and the sunday before
29:26
that i may have to look at the calendar
29:28
to figure out where we were the sunday
29:29
before that
29:30
but i know how can there be that much
29:33
confusion
29:34
surrounding the space of 10 hours well
29:37
nancy it sounds to me
29:39
that you know when people are trying to
29:41
hide something and when they're
29:43
when they may not be they be being
29:45
truthful about something
29:47
they have to keep rearranging their
29:49
story and then they forget what they say
29:52
and with all of the experts that you
29:54
have on your panel today and this is so
29:56
hard for everybody to put together
29:58
i think it's so hard for everyone to put
30:00
together because
30:01
there's so many lies that are interwoven
30:03
in this let me remind
30:05
everybody that suzanne morphy's husband
30:07
barry morphew insists he
30:09
is innocent has nothing to do with
30:11
suzanne's disappearance
30:13
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30:20
crime stories with nancy grace we are
30:23
talking about the disappearance of a
30:24
gorgeous young mom
30:25
suzanne morphew now i also understand
30:29
that in the last hours the
30:31
we are learning their family home has
30:33
been put
30:34
up for sale at about for about 1.759
30:38
million dollars
30:41
you know to you mike king i mean i still
30:45
have my fiance's
30:48
pictures baseball gloves baseball
30:51
there's letters to me
30:52
i have all that that i see every day
30:57
it would be hard until i knew the answer
31:00
as to her disappearance that i would
31:01
sell the home
31:02
maybe there's some kind of financial
31:04
problem that i don't know about
31:06
but if she could come home i would want
31:08
the home to be there
31:10
until this case is resolved you know
31:12
what that's a personal
31:14
uh opinion and i know we're going round
31:16
and round about the timeline
31:18
mike but that's the way investigations
31:20
are if you sat
31:22
me down with my investigator working on
31:24
a case
31:25
these are exactly the way we would be
31:27
talking about well what is this and what
31:29
is that but didn't he say this and
31:30
didn't they say that
31:31
so mike what times
31:35
do we believe more few claims he learned
31:39
his wife was missing
31:40
mike king you know i just have to go
31:43
back to the one the one solid piece is
31:46
uh his testimony uh to lauren scharf
31:49
where he says i left the home at five
31:51
a.m and she was sleeping
31:53
so even even with that then we have to
31:56
look at other evidence that has popped
31:58
up that we haven't been able to
32:00
corroborate we're like you we have to
32:02
live on what social media is sharing but
32:04
suggestions that she was abruptly ending
32:07
conversation the day before
32:09
on facebook and then odd behavior later
32:12
into the evening on
32:14
facebook that was completely out of
32:15
character so we can start to establish
32:17
what seems like a more credible
32:19
timeline and then of course the the idea
32:22
of when do the
32:23
email messages or the text messages
32:25
start on mother's day wishing her well
32:27
to kind of establish a
32:29
communication baseline and then sending
32:33
the neighbor over once and then
32:34
twice uh and and the response to return
32:37
home and then again the time to get home
32:42
nancy i want to tell you something barry
32:44
did admit one
32:45
inconsistency to me about his timeline
32:48
that he provided to investigators
32:50
but it was about uh it was he told me it
32:52
was a mechanical thing to his bobcat
32:55
that's the one thing that he said that
32:57
he mistakenly
32:59
had confused and you know he said
33:02
you know i just found out my wife was
33:04
missing and um
33:05
i i didn't have that timeline right as
33:08
far as what was wrong
33:10
mechanically with his bobcats he
33:11
wouldn't tell me what would the bobcat
33:13
have to do with the timeline
33:15
he he the one of the employees told me
33:19
that he was supposed to bring that to
33:21
broomfield for that job site but they
33:24
never had it when they got there
33:26
it was it was not there and from what
33:28
i'm understanding the brother is saying
33:30
chris mcdonough
33:32
is that the co-workers as i'm calling
33:36
them
33:37
said they're getting texts at 4 00 a.m
33:40
from barry morpheus saying
33:42
he is on the road heading to broomfield
33:46
and he's trying to get a team gathered
33:49
to go build a retainer wall that's
33:52
contrary
33:53
to him telling lauren scharf he left his
33:55
wife at 5 00 a.m
33:57
alive and well asleep soundly asleep the
34:00
co-workers are saying he was texting
34:02
from the road
34:03
to broomfield at 4 00 am chris
34:06
yeah no that's a good point mitch and i
34:08
think this
34:09
again it goes towards that confusion
34:13
uh where you know he's trying to you
34:15
know cross over and dovetail
34:17
uh into everything but what we have from
34:21
barry himself like mike said was that at
34:24
0-500 uh you know in the morning he
34:27
leaves suzanne in bed
34:29
we have from one of the workers uh that
34:32
was reported to warren
34:34
that she believes she hears his truck
34:37
outside of her apartment she says
34:39
i know it's very strong i don't look out
34:41
but i know it's his so
34:42
that's kind of you know a little
34:44
speculation their relationship to
34:47
you know her testimony uh but
34:50
um so that that's kind of nailed down
34:52
the timeline and annual age
34:54
that it went a little bit further uh i
34:57
don't have that information as to how
34:59
you know he came up with 4am texting uh
35:02
but we do know there was a we're getting
35:04
that from one of the co-workers they're
35:06
the ones saying
35:07
morpheus texting them 4 a.m calling them
35:10
trying to get a team together to go
35:12
build a retainer wall that's
35:14
their saying that and certainly local
35:17
police can
35:17
look at their cell phones and get their
35:20
cell phone records
35:21
and find that out did they have an
35:23
incoming call at 4 00 am
35:25
which would be lie the statement he was
35:27
still at home at 5 00 a.m
35:29
but you know you just mentioned so
35:33
so many things uh that are
35:36
unusual to me let's take a listen now to
35:38
andy mormont speaking of dr phil sarkett
35:41
34.
35:42
what do you think happened to her and
35:44
why let me just say this she's hidden
35:46
too well
35:47
phil her bicycle was planted there she
35:50
was never on it
35:52
i think she was abducted and in this
35:54
case murdered
35:55
abducted taken to a second location and
35:58
then
35:59
ultimately murdered yeah
36:02
i i don't think she was taken to a
36:03
second location i think it happened at
36:04
home
36:05
so you think she was murdered and then
36:07
the body was taken to a second location
36:10
correct and you think her husband is the
36:13
one that did this
36:15
well based on behaviors and uh things
36:19
that have happened yeah i do actually
36:21
and i pray it's not you certainly hope
36:24
it's not
36:24
and and i understand that you can't say
36:26
that it is
36:27
but you've just been suspicious of that
36:30
for quite some time correct
36:32
i have yeah let me understand something
36:36
mike king 40 years law evil dot com
36:38
enforcementprofilingevil.com
36:40
with chris mcdonoughprofilingevil.com
36:44
if someone got on national tv
36:47
and said i committed a crime
36:50
i would sue them immediately
36:54
immediately i mean of course unless it
36:57
was true
36:58
then i would hide okay so has there been
37:01
any
37:02
fallout from the brother going on dr
37:04
phil for pete's sake and saying he
37:06
thinks his bro
37:07
his brother-in-law committed murder has
37:09
there been a lawsuit or any
37:10
any uh cease and desist letters that we
37:13
know of
37:14
i i don't know of anything nancy i mean
37:18
andy would have to ask answer that
37:20
question let me ask you a question about
37:22
uh chris mcdonough just said mike king
37:25
that the female co-worker
37:29
said she recognized barry morphy's truck
37:34
now but my husband comes in the door
37:37
i know it's him he opens the door close
37:40
it
37:40
then there's a really long pause
37:44
i don't know what he's doing in the
37:45
laundry room not the laundry
37:48
but then i hear a certain gate coming
37:51
down the hall i know that's david
37:53
okay different if it's john david the
37:56
door slams
37:57
next thing you know running with lucy
37:59
you don't hear anything
38:00
she's like a ghost you don't even hear
38:02
the door suddenly she's just there
38:04
okay so how does the co-worker
38:09
know the sound of barry morphy's truck
38:13
i'm curious is this the same female
38:15
co-worker that has
38:16
taken to uh the media and said we're not
38:20
having an affair
38:21
you know that that's really interesting
38:22
and i think about you as the prosecutor
38:24
and the other prosecutor on the
38:26
on the show with us today there are
38:28
cases where we use that kind of evidence
38:31
as
38:31
parts of that circumstantial evidence to
38:33
prove a point sometimes it smells
38:35
sometimes it sounds
38:36
in this case the the individual
38:39
indicated that it was a very specific
38:41
sound that this vehicle has
38:42
she's been in the vehicle many times she
38:45
understands the sounds
38:46
when she heard it there was no question
38:48
in her mind and so you gotta kind of
38:50
weigh it
38:50
pretty well or maybe it's because hello
38:53
she works with him
38:54
they have a construction company going
38:56
and she's in that truck
38:58
all the time it reminds me i'm sure none
39:01
of you
39:02
remember the aristocats where where one
39:05
of the uh
39:06
investigator dogs can hold his ear up
39:08
and he can tell
39:10
what kind of car what model would make
39:12
and and there's
39:13
flat uh low air in one tire i mean when
39:16
you hear something so many times you
39:18
recognize it
39:19
i want to remind everyone that this is a
39:22
search for the truth
39:23
not railroading anybody morpheus says
39:27
he's innocent
39:30
that's what he says and he has not been
39:32
named a suspect and he has not been
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arrested
39:36
so what happened to suzanne
39:40
morphy nancy grace crime story signing
39:44
off
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goodbye friend

Thank you am copying to the media thread

 

[SallyWolff]

I think I missed something...I believe previous posts said BM was stuck with the house for 7 years (time needed to declare SM dead?). But now he is selling it—is this because he obtained guardianship for the IN house sale?
Does the fact that it is a possible crime scene need to be disclosed to prospective buyers? This is definitely a money grab. Was SM killed to solve money problems or is BM stockpiling money to go on the run? It would not surprise me at all if he tried to run. Given LE budget issues, I am wondering if they can afford to keep eyes on him at all times. I hope so.

 

[Dave F.]

Aaah, you are correct, I think NG was confused, will use Sat for my guideline, my apologies.

I don't think NG has an exclusive on being confused by the timeline. IMO

 

[oviedo]

It’s changed three times, so who the hell knows at this point.

Even if communication did cease on Saturday we 8AM, which is the latest time we’ve been given, that doesn’t even mean it was her.

So I think the murder window is late Friday into some point on Saturday.

Yep I thought it was Thursday evening and Friday and then all the text / messaging information came out so really we are back to the beginning - when was the last physical sighting of our girl ? We seem to know based on MSM she communicated with her friend - was it 8am? Noon? 2:30? 9? We don’t know
JMO

 

[Hatch]

Typo

 

[Ohiogal2020]

I'm pretty sure that she was supposedly seen at the sandwich shop at 4:00 on SATURDAY. Anyone ???

Yes supposedly 4pm on Saturday. I'm still not sure where that came from or if verified.

 

[UnapologeticallyAspie]

This just came to me as I lay here *trying* to fall asleep. Maybe this has already been discussed. In fact I’m sure it has. But....

I think it’s entirely possible that Suzanne turned state’s witness. And is now in Witness Protection. And everyone including Barry, especially Barry has kept quiet in order to protect himself, and his girls, and perhaps both his and her extended families. And I also think that these quite potential possibilities would/could be calculated decisions by other family members to protect themselves (and maybe the hidden laundered money or even drugs....but I’m 95% leaning towards money).

just my .02. Or maybe it’s the Xanax. Who really knows....¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[MsBetsy]

Aaah, you are correct, I think NG was confused, will use Sat for my guideline, my apologies.

I think NG has been confused about the details of this case from the beginning. As far as I know she has still not clarified or explained why it was reported in the beginning that someone did see Suzanne on her bike on Sunday. About a week later the DM reported that nobody saw her riding her bike. I don't know if NG ever gave a reason for the discrepancy.

 

[Hatch]

I haven't been able to keep up with all the posts, sorry if this has been mentioned.

Do we know where MG moved to? and with a weird thought, did she buy a house, rent etc?

IMO LE knows where MG is , not important for us to know or speculate , she stated she was afraid of BM that is all we need to know about her whereabouts.

 

[EggSalad]

I haven't been able to keep up with all the posts, sorry if this has been mentioned.

Do we know where MG moved to? and with a weird thought, did she buy a house, rent etc?

I think it was either ND or SD. That’s a really good question about the house, what do you think?

 

[Hatch]

AM said the sandwich shop sighting was Saturday.

Suzanne Morphew’s brother shares new details about her last known sighting and strange activity on his sister’s Facebook page hours before she was reported missing

Yes Yes Yes

 

[Knox]

I think it was either ND or SD. That’s a really good question about the house, what do you think?

Wouldn't it be something if Barry bought a house there? I say that only partially in jest