Collection of McCann's (and family's) explanations

[Rino]

The thing about the dogs also has me - Cadaver dogs is not an exact science - they are trained but it is not 100% - there has been a case in the US recently where the judge threw out any evidence based on the dogs as it was so unreliable - we dont know what these dogs picked up and it certainly wouldnt be enough to convict either

But it is enough for KM to try to explain it away with spin.

 

[gord]

But it is enough for KM to try to explain it away with spin.

There has been so much stuff in the press - leaks from the police - papers making stuff up ( papers do have the habit of doing that ) that it is hard to give direct quotes to direct people .

This whole media frenzy evidence or not is being discussed in the papaers is very strange -imagine if it ever came to trial - the defence would have a field day - what jury could ever say where they heard things from and not be impartial .

Maybe the Mcaans are saying a bit too much - but I suppose they must have people clsoe to advise them and maybe they are just tired of reading every day that they killed their daughter

 

[Betsy]

Regardless, I wish the McCanns luck in trying to rent a car anywhere in the world now...

Instead of asking "smoking or non-smoking?", should it be "chicken carcass or non-chicken carcass"?

 

[englishleigh]

sometimes the truth is does seem strange - it is when a story is too perfect that alarm bells sound -

But come ON, Gord....transporting bags of household waste from one residence to another??? Chicken carcasses and poopy diapers?? Didn't the resort have large metal trash bins available in which to throw such things before they moved to the villa? Outside the Tapas restaurant at the very least?? Or at the VERY VERY least, one would leave trash bags outside the apartment door for pick-up, rather than transport smelly, nasty garbage with them. This is just about as ridiculous an explanation as Kate taking Cuddle Cat to work with her around dead bodies...:liar: The McCanns, if innocent, need to just shut up b/c they are making themselves look worse and worse.

 

[AquaEyes]

When the McCanns offer explanations of why there are cadaver odors in the trunk/boot, on her clothes and on Cuddle Cat it completely verifies that they AGREE that those odors DO exist on the items. They do not deny that the odors exist!

Cadaver dogs are trained to detect human cadaver odor and to absolutely ignore anything else. So, the explanation of rotting chicken as the source of the odor is an astoundingly stupid answer. (IMO)

Regarding the explanation of bodily fluids being in the trunk/boot because of dirty/wet diapers/nappies and sweaty sandals is another ridiculous response. My understanding of everything I have read is that the bodily fluids were not urine, sweat, saliva, tears or blood but...and forgive me...the putrified liquid remains of a corpse. This material cannot be explained away by their reply. (IMO)

I just think it is very, very telling that there is no denial that there are rotting odors on everything! :sick: Again, IMO.

 

[AquaEyes]

And one more thing about Cuddle Cat. If I were an abductor and my prey was sleeping with and clinging to her favorite toy, the last thing I would do is remove the toy from her grasp. In fact, I would believe the toy would benefit me in keeping the child quiet.

No, the presence of the Cuddle Cat high up out of reach reminds me of the thesis-sized ransom note on the Ramsey stairs; so-called "proof" that a crime was committed.

Just doesn't wash with me.

 

[Jeana (DP)]

When the McCanns offer explanations of why there are cadaver odors in the trunk/boot, on her clothes and on Cuddle Cat it completely verifies that they AGREE that those odors DO exist on the items. They do not deny that the odors exist!

Cadaver dogs are trained to detect human cadaver odor and to absolutely ignore anything else. So, the explanation of rotting chicken as the source of the odor is an astoundingly stupid answer. (IMO)

Regarding the explanation of bodily fluids being in the trunk/boot because of dirty/wet diapers/nappies and sweaty sandals is another ridiculous response. My understanding of everything I have read is that the bodily fluids were not urine, sweat, saliva, tears or blood but...and forgive me...the putrified liquid remains of a corpse. This material cannot be explained away by their reply. (IMO)

I just think it is very, very telling that there is no denial that there are rotting odors on everything! :sick: Again, IMO.

You're absolutely right. The explanations that they give are beyond ridiculous.

 

[Jeana (DP)]

And one more thing about Cuddle Cat. If I were an abductor and my prey was sleeping with and clinging to her favorite toy, the last thing I would do is remove the toy from her grasp. In fact, I would believe the toy would benefit me in keeping the child quiet.

No, the presence of the Cuddle Cat high up out of reach reminds me of the thesis-sized ransom note on the Ramsey stairs; so-called "proof" that a crime was committed.

Just doesn't wash with me.

Mind staying on topic? The Ramsey forum is elsewhere.

 

[Betsy]

What if....again, just speculating....

What if that night Gerry took the body and left it so it would be found, so they would not be accused, they would get lots of sympathy from everyone, AND Maddie would get a proper burial.

BUT....no one found her. They couldn't exactly lead authorities to her, so they waited as long as they could but then something needed to be done. They couldn't just leave her there indefinitely--so somehow they had to move her so that she could get a proper resting place. Again, I say somehow because I don't know how, but I would imagine using the car would not be out of the realm of possibilities. Maybe after Gerry rented the car for his family and friends to use while they were meeting with the Pope, maybe he went to pick up someone at the airport and disposed of Maddie along the way. No one would suspect them of doing this right before they were to leave for Italy, right? Were there still even searches going on? Were they being watched every second. Did they bury her at Fatima, to have Mary watch over her?

My point is, maybe their initial plan did not work and they had to think of a Plan B.

Maybe. Just speculating. Not accusing.

 

[AquaEyes]

Jeana,

Sorry, perhaps it wasn't clear that I was using comparative language in support of my opinion about the use of Cuddle Cat.

 

[browneyedgirl]

Regardless, I wish the McCanns luck in trying to rent a car anywhere in the world now...

Instead of asking "smoking or non-smoking?", should it be "chicken carcass or non-chicken carcass"?

:laugh: :laugh:

 

[browneyedgirl]

When the McCanns offer explanations of why there are cadaver odors in the trunk/boot, on her clothes and on Cuddle Cat it completely verifies that they AGREE that those odors DO exist on the items. They do not deny that the odors exist!

Cadaver dogs are trained to detect human cadaver odor and to absolutely ignore anything else. So, the explanation of rotting chicken as the source of the odor is an astoundingly stupid answer. (IMO)

Regarding the explanation of bodily fluids being in the trunk/boot because of dirty/wet diapers/nappies and sweaty sandals is another ridiculous response. My understanding of everything I have read is that the bodily fluids were not urine, sweat, saliva, tears or blood but...and forgive me...the putrified liquid remains of a corpse. This material cannot be explained away by their reply. (IMO)

I just think it is very, very telling that there is no denial that there are rotting odors on everything! :sick: Again, IMO.[/quote]
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[Jeana (DP)]

Jeana,

Sorry, perhaps it wasn't clear that I was using comparative language in support of my opinion about the use of Cuddle Cat.

I know, but if I allow that analogy I've got to allow others and then we've got to get into the whole Ramseys are innocent thing and I don't want to go there.

 

[AquaEyes]

I understand completely, Jeana. Didn't realize I had made a mistake. Will try hard not to again.

 

[Rino]

What if....again, just speculating....

What if that night Gerry took the body and left it so it would be found, so they would not be accused, they would get lots of sympathy from everyone, AND Maddie would get a proper burial.

BUT....no one found her. They couldn't exactly lead authorities to her, so they waited as long as they could but then something needed to be done. They couldn't just leave her there indefinitely--so somehow they had to move her so that she could get a proper resting place. Again, I say somehow because I don't know how, but I would imagine using the car would not be out of the realm of possibilities. Maybe after Gerry rented the car for his family and friends to use while they were meeting with the Pope, maybe he went to pick up someone at the airport and disposed of Maddie along the way. No one would suspect them of doing this right before they were to leave for Italy, right? Were there still even searches going on? Were they being watched every second. Did they bury her at Fatima, to have Mary watch over her?

My point is, maybe their initial plan did not work and they had to think of a Plan B.

Maybe. Just speculating. Not accusing.

Very plausible. That is much less gruesome and actually understandable than them storing her or even worse.

That is if they are guilty

 

[docwho3]

What if....again, just speculating....

What if that night Gerry took the body and left it so it would be found, so they would not be accused, they would get lots of sympathy from everyone, AND Maddie would get a proper burial . . .

Very interesting thought. I suppose it might depend on whether there would have been anything such as a drug or other substance on or in the body that would point back to the parents in some criminal way. If there was anything like that they would just have disposed of the body in such a way as for it to not ever be found, or as near that goal as they could reasonably get with the resources at hand.

 

[docwho3]

Regardless, I wish the McCanns luck in trying to rent a car anywhere in the world now...

Instead of asking "smoking or non-smoking?", should it be "chicken carcass or non-chicken carcass"?

Just so people don't get up in court and say "if the chicken is it you must acquit!"

 

[colomom]

Just so people don't get up in court and say "if the chicken is it you must acquit!"

 

[Pinkhammer]

Would it be possible for your contact who actually went to Praia DaLuz to confirm for us whether or not it is the custom at a high-end, high-priced resort there for the clients to have to ferry their own garbage to the town dump?

This is unbelievable to me.

 

[angarella]

Just so people don't get up in court and say "if the chicken is it you must acquit!"