Comparing the Ramsey case to other cases

[carole]

I googled Sylvia because I wasn't familiar with her and I came across this from Wikipedia.


"A play called Hey, Rube written by Janet McReynolds, was produced but never published."
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sylvia_Likens#section_5

The same Janet McReynolds?!

BBM

Yes, the same.

http://web.archive.org/web/20080516004635/http://www.timescall.com/ramsey/storyDetail97.asp?ID=63

 

[blefuscu]

What's the Baby Lisa case?

 

[qtc]

Is it known if patsy and/or john was familiar with or read Hey Rube?

Just wondering...

 

[JimmyWells]

Jaclyn Dowaliby case is nearly identical.

 

[HisLamb]

The ages are different, the length of time of the physical is different, and in the other case, the murderer was clear, and the two cases were at opposite ends of the socioeconomic spectrum, but for some reason, the JonBenet Case and the Sylvia Likens cases have parallels to me.

meant to put the word "abuse" after the word physical..couldn't find the edit button on my post..I was on another forum, and one could only edit one's post for a certain number of hours. I guess it's that way here too? That's not a complaint/criticism, just asking for clarification. I also didn't realize that that play was about Sylvia. I knew about the play, and knew about Sylvia but never connected those particular dots. Also, where do you guys get all the smilies?

 

[eileenhawkeye]

What's the Baby Lisa case?

Lisa Irwin. She's a 10-month baby who was reported missing from her crib in October 2011. The parents haven't spoken to LE since the first week of the case.

 

[RANCH]

Lisa Irwin. She's a 10-month baby who was reported missing from her crib in October 2011. The parents haven't spoken to LE since the first week of the case.

BBM
That's not an accurate statement Eileen. We know that Lisa's parents talked to LE before they went on the Dr Phil show in February.

http://foxnewsinsider.com/2012/02/0...st-time-in-months-ahead-of-dr-phil-interview/

 

[RANCH]

What's the Baby Lisa case?

Here's a link to the Lisa Irwin forum if your interested in learning more about her disappearance.

[ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=463"]Lisa Irwin Missing! - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community[/ame]

 

[eileenhawkeye]

BBM
That's not an accurate statement Eileen. We know that Lisa's parents talked to LE before they went on the Dr Phil show in February.

http://foxnewsinsider.com/2012/02/0...st-time-in-months-ahead-of-dr-phil-interview/

So from around October 8 to TODAY, they've spoken to LE once. Wow. Impressive.

 

[RANCH]

So from around October 8 to TODAY, they've spoken to LE once. Wow. Impressive.

I don't know if the facts of the Lisa Irwin case impress anyone, I just want them to be known.

 

[redheadedgal]

What's the Baby Lisa case?

-cadaver dog hit in home
-17 hour search of home and property with police taking very specific items as evidence incl. clothingmentioned as being the last items lisa wore to bed
-parents refuse to allow police to interview them separately*
-parents' "stories" are inconsistent/change over time*
-mom claims drunkeness -- coincidence??
-dad was away for the first time ever on a night shift -- coincidence?
-three missing cell phones that pinged 1/3 to 1/5 of a mile from the home during that night after they supposedly went "missing" and mom's voicemail's access was attempted -- hmmm
-parents lawyered up real quick* and have had at least two death qualified lawyers represent them
-mom gave police dozens of pages of "notes" of her theories of who "took" lisa (neighbours and friends thrown under the bus*)
-odds are mom guilty*; jury still out on dad's participation*


*shades of john and patsy

 

[rashomon]

Jaclyn Dowaliby case is nearly identical.

Another tragic case . Jaclyn's dead body was found a few miles from her home, wrapped in a blanket from her own bedroom.

 

[SapphireSteel]

Madeleine McCann.

The similarities are mind blowing.

It's like the Ramseys wrote the script and the McCann is following it to a T.

:sick:

 

[2 percent]

I agree with Madeleine's reasonings, but I'd throw in Dr. Sam Sheppard, too. All three of them are psychopaths, and dearly love to be in the spotlight.

Edit-- I would also add Charles Lindbergh. I just don't buy his story.

Dr. Sheppard was a psychopath? Explain please.

 

[eileenhawkeye]

There's always been talk about how the R's weren't that angry over JonBenet's murder, how they forgave her killer immediately, not too concerned about getting justice, etc. People have pointed out how differently they behaved compared to other parents. However, if you want an example of a parent who has acted somewhat similar, yet is definitely not suspected of killing her daughter, what about Heather Collins? She also seems to have a pretty lackluster attitude to finding out who killed her daughter and niece. Of course, a lot of people have pointed out how strange it is in that case too.

 

[blefuscu]

Omg what a thing to say! this just demonstrates the extreme bias there is against the Ramseys.

Jeff MacD was found guilty in a court of law the evidence was overwhelming against him that he slaughtered his whole family. He is a cold hearted psychopath.

John Ramsey is INNOCENT until proven guilty, the evidence is NOT overwhelming against him.

Enough evidence for the Grand Jury to want to indict them though!

John and Patsy Ramsey are lucky that the Boulder DA's office didn't have the balls to try them and that is it, there is plenty of evidence, there's just never been an opportunity to present it in a trial!

 

[BBB167893]

Madeleine McCann.

The similarities are mind blowing.

It's like the Ramseys wrote the script and the McCann is following it to a T.

:sick:

Sapphire, you have to wonder how many parents since the Rs have thought, "well, they got away with it. Maybe I can too."

And you said it: script. The Rs made a blueprint to be followed.

 

[eileenhawkeye]

Sapphire, you have to wonder how many parents since the Rs have thought, "well, they got away with it. Maybe I can too."

And you said it: script. The Rs made a blueprint to be followed.

But a huge reason why the R's got away with it is due to their connections and money so how could middle class and working class parents use their same "methods"?

 

[greenpalm]

Sapphire, you have to wonder how many parents since the Rs have thought, "well, they got away with it. Maybe I can too."

And you said it: script. The Rs made a blueprint to be followed.

The McCann's at least learned that getting rid of the body would be preferred.

 

[Stef88]

Yes the Jacqueline Dowaliby case reminds me A LOT of JonBenet. I remember seeing the movie 'Gone In The Night' with Shannen Doherty and at first I kind of wondered if it was loosely based on the Ramsey case but then saw at the end that it was based on a real couple, what a sad story.

Madeline McCann does remind me of the Ramsey's, something off about both sets of parents IMO. I still can't wrap my head around the fact that the McCann's did not search for Madeline physically the next day, I would npt have been able to sit still! Personally I think Maddie died by accident in the room and they got rid of the body, the cadaver dogs have got me thinking this is the most likely scenario.