octobermoon
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It is over for today.
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The first thing that went thru my mind when I heard this.
It's a major reason some docs love working with welfare patients.
They're sure to get paid.
:bangheadefense has no other witnesses ready to go today. Court recessed. Good grief. :maddening:
:bangheadefense has no other witnesses ready to go today. Court recessed. Good grief. :maddening:
LOL Vinny just called Miss Ruby the star of the show today. I wouldn't want to argue with her.
Subjecting these folks to cross, which shows them to be so biased in favor of Murray that nothing would change their minds is incredible to me.
It is over for today.
I received phone calls AND flowers from my doctor, sent from a florist, after my procedure!
Have any of CM's patients?
And another thang:
CM is putting multiple stents in these folks (13 in one of the witnesses). Sounds like a lot of 'em to me -- I am such an authority - hah! -- but I yam gonna ask my DH who has been in cardiology research for over 30 years & see if that's "nornal." He's not an MD, but he knows his stuff & works with these folks every day.
CM stated that he was an interventional cardiologist, & this is what they do, and stents are used very very often, but 13 in one heart seems excessive. I dunno...but I'll check...
Witness #3 said she was taken to Sunrise Hospital after one of her multiple heart attacks, which opened the door to ask her whether she knew Sunrise Hospital had disciplined CM for not responding to pages from hospital personnel. The State wanted to get this in but needed someone to open the door to that.
ITA, soul - It became subtly noticeable that she did not care for CM, but she certainly cared for MJ in the right way. She obviously believed in what she could do for him, and I thought her manner was certainly what he needed -- someone kinda motherly and obviously caring & healthy since he was so big on fresh, natural things.
But yes, propofol does put you under in about 2--3 seconds, and we, as adults, IMO, just don't fall asleep that quickly on a regular basis. We have all watched puppies, kittens, and babies fall asleep that quickly, but not ourselves. MJ was pushed for time and a fast "to-sleep" was what he thought he needed.
Maybe if CM had changed his schedule a bit -- have a "come down" period right after he has his shower (a hot shower should help), then maybe a cup of hot chocolate (in spite of the chocolate, it does it for me) along with a sleeping pill (Ambien, or whatever is out there -- something safe, if that's possibe), some calming music, maybe reading a bed-time story one of the children wrote for him, etc., etc., just some down-shifting for about an hour or so. Then a nice, warmed-up bed, and darkness & silence, or whatever ambiance worked for him. Then maybe, maybe, maybe, sleep for 6 hours or more, and a calm wake-up at around 9:00am, breakfast at 10:00--10:30. Get his constitution used to that schedule -- this would take weeks -- and it would become easier each day.
As a good doctor, CM would have read him the riot act about propofol, and asked him to try, just like Nurse Lee had done...
A fairy tale? Maybe, probably, but CM could have tried.
You raise an interesting point. I read an article in the NY Times a few years ago about how cardiac surgeons' incomes were decreasing with the increased use of stents in patients. Obviously, if a patient can be treated by stents rather than have bypass surgery, it's better for the patient. And there are some patients who are in such terrible health (age, diabetes, etc) that bypass is not an option. IIRC, the dude who had the 13 stents was not that old, and he testified that Murray said he couldn't do a treadmill stress test. But then he said he had something done in a hospital, with an entire team present, which I suspect was a chemically induced stress test. Meh, to me it says that Murray took better care of these folks than he did the guy who was his only patient at the rate of $150,000/month. It shows that he knew better than to do what he did with MJ. I'm sure the People will paint it that way in their closing argument.
Also, the tee vee folks are saying the defense is expected to wrap up their case tomorrow? I wonder if they only expect Dr. White to be on the stand briefly? :floorlaugh: And what about their "addiction specialist"? Hard to believe they could get two expert doctors on and off the stand in one day.