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I have been in an out all day ,but when I heard Smith say he never noted the propofol bottle in the IV bag I was surprized.
It's noon in California now. Or alittle after.
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What time is it now in California?
I have been in an out all day ,but when I heard Smith say he never noted the propofol bottle in the IV bag I was surprized.
Coroner saying that the amount Dr. Murray says he gave him is not consistent with the amount found in his system.
Coroner is now throwing out the idea that MJ could have administered himself the propofol.
We need a nurse to explain if this is what was talked about on earlier threads. Spiked as in put into the saline bag and spiked onto the iv tubing to flow directly into MJs leg? So the entire 100 ml bottle just went into his blood stream?
Rut-rho....it's starting to fall apart just an itsy-bitsy bit....
Well from what I gathered by bits and pieces all it sounds like Def is really trying to play down Dr.M being inaccessible for 2 days following the death.
Yes - it may be nothing, but it's weird to me....Just what WAS he doing & WHERE was he doing it???
Don't confuse spike with an action. The coroner is talking about a medical device called a "spike" that could have been used to create the linear cut to then allow free flow of the propofol, as opposed to a needle from a syringe to draw out smaller incremental amounts.
Thank you. I was thinking of the part of the saline bag that the iv tubing came from as being a spike. Do you know what a spike itself would look like? And did they find one in with all the drugs? I don't recall.
I don't remember anything like that being found but that means nothing to me. I'm sure there is quite a bit that wasn't found. IMO
I did a google search on a medical spike a few minutes ago and it looks like they are available with different types of ends on them for insertion or cutting into something. Some are pointed, some are angled, some are straight across.
Interesting article at this website about MJ toxicology report. Be sure to read the comments below.
http://lawmedconsultant.com/2575/toxicology-in-the-michael-jackson-manslaughter-trial
We need a nurse to explain if this is what was talked about on earlier threads. Spiked as in put into the saline bag and spiked onto the iv tubing to flow directly into MJs leg? So the entire 100 ml bottle just went into his blood stream?
p: did you notice anything unusual about the rubber stopper in the 100g propofol bottle
c: yes
p: what did you notice
c: the center of the rubber stopper has more or less a linear opening in it. no needle punctures, just this linear opening
p: did you draw any conclusions as to what would have made that opening, but not since medical school
def: objection
judge: sustained until foundation is established dr knows
p: marking exhibits showing stopper
p: can you see to what you are referring to the linear cut
c: yes
p: what is this
c: in about the center of the stopper there is an opening from side to side
p: basically a cut or an opening going from where you point the circle demarcation it is within that circle
c: yes
(my note: it is clear on the photo there is a cut in the rubber)
p: now are you familiar with what a syringe needle marking would leave on this
c: yes
p: did you observe any syringe needle markings
c: no
p: are you familiar with what could have made this linear opening
defense objected,, judge overruled
c: i personally have used devices that could make this kind of opening,but not since medical school
p: what medical device
c: the medical device is called a spike, you would push a spike into the rubber stopper and then the propofol will flow out into the end
break for lunch break
We need a nurse to explain if this is what was talked about on earlier threads. Spiked as in put into the saline bag and spiked onto the iv tubing to flow directly into MJs leg? So the entire 100 ml bottle just went into his blood stream?
Don't confuse spike with an action. The coroner is talking about a medical device called a "spike" that could have been used to create the linear cut to then allow free flow of the propofol, as opposed to a needle from a syringe to draw out smaller incremental amounts.
Well, according to his attorney, he is the one that told him to turn his phone off and wait until he could meet with him. He apparently had another legal matter he was involved in all day Friday so told Dr.Murray to turn his cell phone off. He said this on the taped interview (the attorney).
Now..me? I suspect Dr.Murray was busy talking to his attorney, his office, cancelling the order for the medical supplies he wouldn't now be needing, getting rid of the gallons of propofol he had stockpiled, and whatever else he was able to clean up before the investigation got too far.
The end of and IV tubing administration set does have a 'spike' on it and it is used for that exact purpose to spike through thick rubber stoppers.