Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #51

[Amonet]

The number of people already infected by the mystery virus emerging in China is far greater than official figures suggest, scientists have told the BBC.
There have been 41 laboratory-confirmed cases of the new virus, but UK experts estimate the figure is closer to 1,700.

New virus in China ‘will have infected hundreds'

Up to 4,500 patients in China may have caught the same strain of coronavirus that has killed two people, scientists fear.
Health officials in Wuhan – the city at the heart of the outbreak which started in December – confirmed four new cases today, taking the total to 48.
But Imperial College London researchers say this may be the 'tip of the iceberg' after analysing flights out of the city.

Scientists fear up to 4,500 Chinese patients may have caught the new coronavirus | Daily Mail Online

Updates and chat - United States:
Current Statistics for Each Individual States

Updates and chat - Other Countries:
Stats and Information from Other Countries

Safety Tips and Things to do While Quarantined
Facial Mask Making - Coronavirus
Grocery shopping tips during Coronavirus quarantine
Recipes to share during Coronavirus quarantine
Health and Safety Tips for living under Coronavirus quarantine
Quarantine Vegetable Gardens

WS Members/loved ones who have Coronavirus and testing

Individuals and Companies that have donated to the Coronavirus COVID-19 cause

Memorial Thread - COVID-19 Coronavirus

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Case details for US and Canada:
COVID-19/Coronavirus Real Time Updates With Credible Sources in US and Canada | 1Point3Acres

Case details for the entire world:
Coronavirus Update (Live): 206,893 Cases and 8,272 Deaths from COVID-19 Virus Outbreak - Worldometer

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[Tricia]

Hey Everyone,

If you want to quote what the president or anyone in his administrations who give information on what they are doing to contain the virus that is absolutely fine.
THIS IS ME BEGGING NOW. NO MATTER HOW FRUSTRATED YOU FEEL, HOW GRATEFUL YOU FEEL OR HOW YOU FEEL WITH ANY OF THE COMMENTS COMING FROM THE WHITEHOUSE OR THEIR ADMINISTRATION DO NOT PUT IT ON THIS THREAD. DO NOT PUT TOGETHER A POST THAT IS OBVIOUSLY A POLITICAL STATEMENT AND THEN TRY AND SAY IT IS NOT.
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OK, not begging now.

I am so impressed with our members posting much-needed info and members helping each other. I swear I sit here and cry happy tears at how incredible you are with this pandemic.

Please join me tonight on Websleuths Live on YouTube at 10:00 PM Eastern. CLICK HERE to join us live. We have a great chat room going on. and I want to personally invite you all to join us. One main rule. If you a jerk in chat or if you start making inflammatory comments about politics or whatever you will be kicked out. Then you will be forced to listen to Donny Osmonds "Puppy Love" for 30 days. So please behave.
See you tonight.
Love,
Tricia
PS. I actually love Donny Osmond. Very talented, a great businessman and fantastic human being, but, Puppy Love is painful. LOL

 

[Sillybilly]

We are out of patience with posters who are ignoring forum guidelines about politicizing. Posting privileges will be removed for those members who continue to violate Tricia's instruction laid out in the above post, in part ...

If you want to quote what the president or anyone in his administrations who give information on what they are doing to contain the virus that is absolutely fine.
THIS IS ME BEGGING NOW. NO MATTER HOW FRUSTRATED YOU FEEL, HOW GRATEFUL YOU FEEL OR HOW YOU FEEL WITH ANY OF THE COMMENTS COMING FROM THE WHITEHOUSE OR THEIR ADMINISTRATION DO NOT PUT IT ON THIS THREAD. DO NOT PUT TOGETHER A POST THAT IS OBVIOUSLY A POLITICAL STATEMENT AND THEN TRY AND SAY IT IS NOT.

 

[Sillybilly]

Please remember ...

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Do not be rude or argumentative.
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Stay safe, healthy, strong and be kind to others.

 

[CocoChanel]

MOD REMINDER:

THERE ARE A NUMBER OF SPECIFIC SUB-FORUMS THAT HAVE BEEN CREATED TO DISCUSS THE MANY ASPECTS OF THIS EXTRAORDINARY TIME. PLEASE TRY TO KEEP YOUR POSTS ABOUT SPECIFIC TOPICS IN THOSE SUB-FORUMS TO ALLOW THOSE INTERESTED IN THOSE TOPICS TO SEE YOUR POSTS. POSTING THEM IN THIS MAIN THREAD MAKES IT MORE DIFFICULT TO FIND THEM AND CAN VEER THE MAIN THREAD A BIT SIDEWAYS. THANKS FOR TRYING YOUR BEST TO KEEP US ON TRACK!

BELOW ARE SOME QUICK LINKS, BUT THEY ARE EASY TO FIND UNDER THE MAIN COVID HEADING ABOUT SAFETY TIPS AND THINGS TO DO WHILE QUARANTINED:

VEGETABLE GARDENS
QUARANTINE RECIPES
GROCERY SHOPPING
HEALTH & SAFETY TIPS
MAKING YOUR OWN HOUSEHOLD PRODUCTS
FACE MASKS FOR PROTECTION
HOMESCHOOLING
SMILES CAFE

Faithfully,
CocoChanel
Moderator

 

[Sillybilly]

Permanent thread bans have been and will be issued for members who persist in trying to make the thread about politics.

In case you have not read the opening posts above, please etch this part of Tricia's post above in your memory:

NO MATTER HOW FRUSTRATED YOU FEEL, HOW GRATEFUL YOU FEEL OR HOW YOU FEEL WITH ANY OF THE COMMENTS COMING FROM THE WHITEHOUSE OR THEIR ADMINISTRATION DO NOT PUT IT ON THIS THREAD. DO NOT PUT TOGETHER A POST THAT IS OBVIOUSLY A POLITICAL STATEMENT AND THEN TRY AND SAY IT IS NOT

Please review the opening posts and continue discussion here.

 

[bluedivergirl]

Last night I saw a post about nicotine patches being tried on COVID patients. I said eek! Going to order from Amazon now.
They just freaking showed up! Less than 24 hours.
Wow! I am shocked!
I stopped smoking in November, I will be able to stop the patches in about 4 weeks, maybe less.
How the heck did they arrive so quickly?
I've been waiting for masks for 5 weeks!
Moo

Anything coming from Asia is taking forever. I've been wait 3 weeks for special light bulbs and Japanese skin care.

 

[Tony1902]

Vitamin D and the coronavirus pandemic: Should you take it?

I have osteopenia so I have scrip for an extra high dose which I take every day, seemingly forever. *sigh*

 

[LadyL]

Last night I saw a post about nicotine patches being tried on COVID patients. I said eek! Going to order from Amazon now.
They just freaking showed up! Less than 24 hours.
Wow! I am shocked!
I stopped smoking in November, I will be able to stop the patches in about 4 weeks, maybe less.
How the heck did they arrive so quickly?
I've been waiting for masks for 5 weeks!
Moo

depends where they come from usually
masks are likely from China so take longer, plus they have supply problems right now
I'm waiting for masks too

 

[LadyL]

One principal in Florida has gone the extra mile to celebrate the high school's graduating seniors amid the coronavirus pandemic, which has upended time-honored teenage traditions like proms and graduations.

Florida principal lines high school's driveway with 2020 class photos

 

[I'm Just Here]

I wish I knew something you can do about it.

IDK

This post is a reply to the older person that is feeling blah - know more than likely alot of people young and old are feeling blah at times as well. It is a stressful time we are all going through. What may help is to limit ones self from the Covid news to once or twice a day. Have a morning routine taking care of your shower, hair, teeth and a healthy bit to eat. Do some light arms, legs, stretches or go on a short walk, remember to inhale fresh air hold it then breath slowly out several times. Oxygen is good! Order a new magazine or a new tea flavor. Sort out a stash of pictures and order a photo album if needed. There are many fun things on the internet such as a tour of flower gardens in the US or various countries. Sit outside or by the window and watch/listen to birds then try to identify them. Find your state bird? Put a feeder up, a bird bath. Write the name of the birds down. Keep a fun list of to do! If you have no appetite eat small amounts of healthy food, cottage cheese with canned or fresh peaches, cup of soup, drink enough water. Call a friend, facetime family write a story from your childhood for a grandchild or someone you love. Remember to accept it is ok to feel blah nothing is wrong with you. Sometimes a person needs to pull themselves together and make small changes

 

[Satchie]

Before antibiotics TB sufferers who could afford it would go to fancy Swiss recovery centres. Was this because of the high altitudes and clean air? Did that use to work?

I think there were many theories about cures: fresh air was one, altitude another, but another was living in a warm, dry climate, so Keats was sent to Italy and DH Lawrence went to Mexico (but both died of it). I don't think any of those ideas really made any difference in survival.

A key element was understanding that it was contagious. TB isn't virulantly infectious, but because the sufferer could carry on a long time, they could infect dozens of susceptible others. Once patients could be diagnosed and were required to be isolated from other people, case numbers slowly went down, over many decades.

The other key was better standards of living, so stronger immune systems . So prevelence dramatically declined (except for, eg, street living drug addicts etc) long before a cure was found. I don't think people had 'herd immunity' to it.

History of tuberculosis - Wikipedia

 

[10ofRods]

She was a repeat offender who did this before. What is wrong with this person?

It's happening more than I would ever have thought. There's practically a war between the "mask-wearers/social distancers" and "the others." If anyone had the courage to study and interview "the others," some will be mentally ill, some will be believers that this is a hoax/caused by 5G or whatever, some are just belligerent.

Meanwhile:

US stays away as world leaders agree action on Covid-19 vaccine

Trump isolates US from world efforts to create and test CoVid-19 vaccine.

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[Tillicum]

I'm glad they took this into consideration.

Coronavirus in Ohio: DeWine says 'breakthrough' will increase testing six-fold by late May

The governor also announced Friday that foster children who will age out of the system upon turning 18 will be allowed to remain in foster homes with state funding. Older youths will be allowed to stay in another foster program after turning 21. “This will ensure no child leaves foster care during the pandemic without a safe place to call home,” he said.

 

[LadyL]

Me, too. I’ve already been thinking about the additional difficulty I will have trying to hear people behind masks when I go back to work.

I just had difficulty at the post office - when they're behind a plastic divider plus a mask makes it harder to hear.

 

[Trino]

Don't consume disinfectant.
‘Under no circumstances’ should you ingest, inject disinfectant, Maryland officials say after Trump comments

 

[10ofRods]

Please be careful with the nicotine theory. Go read the actual scientific literature on this one. Find out the dosing and method of employment - and why it is even considered a treatment

I think there were many theories about cures: fresh air was one, altitude another, but another was living in a warm, dry climate, so Keats was sent to Italy and DH Lawrence went to Mexico. I don't think any of those ideas really made any difference in survival.

A key element was understanding that it was contagious. TB isn't virulantly infectious, but because the sufferer could carry on a long time, they could infect dozens of susceptible others. Once patients could be diagnosed and were required to be isolated from other people, case numbers slowly went down, over many decades.

The other key was better standards of living, so stronger immune systems . So prevelence dramatically declined (except for, eg, street living drug addicts etc) long before a cure was found. I don't think people had 'herd immunity' to it.

History of tuberculosis - Wikipedia

As you point out, those measures did give some people longer life. Dry and hot with lots of UV would help protect staff, and people could therefore get good nutrition and body therapies that lowered anxiety and stress. It's known that anxiety and stress does not help people's immune systems. So pampering, lowering bacterial load, good nutrition did improve outcomes for the wealthy over the slum dwellers.

Warm, dry climates did have lower levels of TB, so there's that.

The contemporary comparison is that some of us can work from home, sanitize our houses and groceries, completely avoid interaction with breathing humans and...essential workers cannot. The unemployed could stay home, but many are treating this as an unexpected vacation. Yesterday's post about the workers who were angry at their boss for getting paycheck loans from the government floored me.

 

[JaneEyre]

Anything coming from Asia is taking forever. I've been wait 3 weeks for special light bulbs and Japanese skin care.

I have stuff from the US lost in the mail for over a week now. It’s soy milk coming from Texas, I think.

 

[MsArk]

Mississippi Update:
Transition from stay at home order to safer at home order. It actually does very little though, which I think is very good. Bars, gyms, salons remain closed. Gatherings over 10 prohibited. Restaurants remain curbside pickup. Retail allowed to open at 50% capacity. In place for two weeks but could be amended. Governor Tate Reeves is still speaking so I will have to say MOO. Will add a link when available. Good job, Gov. Reeves.

 

[JaneEyre]

It's happening more than I would ever have thought. There's practically a war between the "mask-wearers/social distancers" and "the others." If anyone had the courage to study and interview "the others," some will be mentally ill, some will be believers that this is a hoax/caused by 5G or whatever, some are just belligerent.

Meanwhile:

US stays away as world leaders agree action on Covid-19 vaccine

Trump isolates US from world efforts to create and test CoVid-19 vaccine.

<modsnip>

Well, I was feeling hopeful until I read this. My hopefulness was based on the fact that the entire world is working on this and cooperating with each other. To read that we are not part of that cooperative effort depresses me to no end.