Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #68

[RANCH]

Indeed it is. Every country gave up a little bit of their sovereignty in order to tackle the diseases as a unified group. That's what makes the US withdrawal from the WHO in the midst of this pandemic so tragic.

Why would a country have to give up part of it's sovereignty to work as a group of nations in the fight against this virus?

 

[Lavender Moon]

Report them to your County Public Health each time you go. While there may not be a fine, businesses do have to respond to repeated black marks on their county health record. Surely the public health people will take it seriously (they sure are, where I live, it's about the only thing they're doing right).

Those two young men were, in fact, being defiant and are by far more likely to be spreaders, due to being nearly asymptomatic (if they have it).

Yes, defiance of mask mandates need to be reported. This is something we all can do to help quell this pandemic

 

[CharlestonGal]

Excellent read about the phenomenal job done by Vietnam.

Emerging COVID-19 success story: Vietnam’s commitment to containment

Although Vietnam reported its first case of COVID-19 on January 23, 2020, it reported only a little more than 300 cases and zero deaths over the following four months.1,2 This early success has been attributed to several key factors, including a well-developed public health system, a strong central government, and a proactive containment strategy based on comprehensive testing, tracing, and quarantining. Lessons from Vietnam’s successful early detection and containment strategy are worth examining in detail so other countries may apply them to their own responses.

 

[CharlestonGal]

John Bel Edwards shutters bars, issues mask mandate: 'Current restrictions are not enough'

Gov. John Bel Edwards on Saturday said he will effectively shut down bars and issue a mask mandate to stem Louisiana's rapidly-rising coronavirus case count.

Masks will be required when entering establishments statewide, though some parishes can opt out if they meet certain thresholds for the virus. Bars will be shut down to in-person consumption, regardless of whether they have a food permit. They will still be allowed to offer curbside pick up.

The changes are effective Monday.

“It’s become clear, to me, especially after the numbers we saw yesterday that our current restrictions are not enough," Edwards said.

 

[ilovewings]

They are such a sweet and caring couple.

Jimmy and Rosalynn Carter pose in face masks and call on the public to save lives - KEYT | KCOY

Former President Jimmy Carter and former first lady Rosalynn Carter on Saturday urged the American people to “please wear a mask to save lives” as the country continues to battle the deadly coronavirus.

The couple’s Atlanta-based charity, the Carter Center, posted a photo on Twitter Saturday of the pair wearing white masks printed with the center’s logo. The picture was paired with the straightforward plea.

Carter, a Democrat, has before appealed to the public to do its part during the pandemic. In March, the former president asked donors to “forgo (their) next gift” to the Carter Center and instead support local groups working to ease the “suffering caused” by the pandemic.

The Carters established the Carter Center in 1982 in Atlanta, with initiatives that include fighting diseases in developing countries. One of the key accomplishments of the Carter Center is the near-eradication of Guinea worm disease from an estimated 3.5 million cases in 1986 to 54 provisional cases in 2019.

They are both wonderful people---goodness personified

 

[RANCH]

HIV didn't run its course. Neither did smallpox or polio. Things had to happen to reduce transmission - prophylaxis of various kinds (including real government effort to educate, sanitate, and ensure clean water), plus a vaccine for smallpox and polio. Viruses stop being noticeable when they lose access to susceptible hosts (or mutate in ways that are not helpful to them). Some have "seasons" by which they wax and wane. But they don't leave the environment. And with nearly 8 billion people on the planet, herd immunity will take an excruciatingly long time. JMO and not a virologist or epidemiologist.

We have to do something big on the policy scale in order for this to get better. It will be a while before we get a vaccine that anyone trusts. This has to be a national and international effort, IMO. Which means we need intelligent, cooperative adults at the helm.

Does the ending of the Covid-19 pandemic mean that the virus will have to totally disappear?

 

[CharlestonGal]

Oh, Mexico.

Bodies are being exhumed in Mexico to make room for coronavirus deaths

In Mexico City, the dead usually lay peacefully for decades in public cemeteries. Now, laws limiting burial rights – specifically the length of time a body can be buried – are being enforced around parts of the country because cemeteries are running out of room for the dead.

It's a widespread issue related to the coronavirus pandemic and is complicated by an overcrowded system, according to photojournalist Jonathan Alpeyrie, who has been covering the pandemic in Mexico and spoke to CBSN from Mexico City.

He said municipal cemeteries are exhuming bodies in order to make room for the recently deceased.

Until the numbers improve, local governments have to try to anticipate the need for space, says Alpeyrie. So cemetery tenures in some areas – laws that allow bodies to be removed after a certain number of years – will have to be enforced.

"There are enough deaths in Mexico that are putting a heavy strain on the cemeteries and crematoriums in major cities throughout Mexico that they do have to resort to using this law in order to make room, and we have seen this firsthand, and it's quite- it's quite difficult to watch," he said.

 

[margarita25]

CoVid will end with continued effort and focus on eradication, or it will come roaring back.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toro...rom-roaring-back-as-ontario-reopens-1.5639459

crossing my fingers for you guys

 

[10ofRods]

Why would a country have to give up part of it's sovereignty to work as a group of nations in the fight against this virus?

No reason at all. Working together != loss of sovereignty.

Working together does not change the US Constitution, any other nation's system of government, nor that of the 50 states, either. (Maybe someday to be 51).

 

[Bravo]

crossing my fingers for you guys

And for all of you as well

 

[margarita25]

Are public service announcements happening on US TV?

Ones that say things like social distance, wear a mask, stay home except for necessities.

I think your idea of billboards is a good one.

This reminds me, it’s quite surreal these days seeing TV commercials made for these times: “Olive Garden contactless curbside pick up”, Target no contact order pickup, Amazon commercials showing workers with masks and doing temperature checks upon warehouse entry, Capitol One commercial for a child’s science experiment products being delivered so she can do the experiment in the garage, pizza delivery commercials with the drivers wearing masks, the list goes on and on...we are seeing specific advertising and marketing campaigns being geared specifically toward these times, and it’s surreal to see.

 

[CharlestonGal]

Comments are brutal.

https://www.newsweek.com/florida-go...ate-reopening-too-soon-says-theres-no-1517140

The governor of Florida defended his decision to reopen the state after the nation's top infectious disease expert suggested Florida had rushed its reopening amid a surge of coronavirus cases seen since mid-June.

"I think there was really no justification to not move forward," said Governor Ron DeSantis at a news conference in Orlando Friday.

DeSantis responded to comments made the day before by Dr. Anthony Fauci, who is the top adviser on the White House Coronavirus Task Force.

"Despite the guidelines and the recommendations to open up carefully and prudently, some states skipped over those and just opened up too quickly," Fauci said Thursday on FiveThirtyEight's PODCAST-19. "Certainly Florida...I think jumped over a couple of checkpoints."

Within the last month, Florida has emerged as a global epicenter for the disease, joining the likes of New York and Italy when at their worst.

 

[margarita25]

And for all of you as well

Thank you @Bravo, maybe too late for us but we can still hold out hope that at least our Canadian neighbors make it :hearts: Good knowing you Bravo!!! Don’t forget us Americans my friend - let it be noted that not all of us chose to go down this way - please make sure that’s written in the history books.

 

[Bravo]

Thank you @Bravo, maybe too late for us but we can still hold out hope that our at least our Canadian neighbors make it :hearts: Good knowing you Bravo!!! Don’t forget us Americans m um friend - not all of us chose to go down this way, please make sure that’s written in the history books.

Your going to be fine. You know how to do this. You have been here since Day 1. I look forward to posting with you for years. I think of all you Americans everyday.

 

[CharlestonGal]

Thank you @Bravo, maybe too late for us but we can still hold out hope that our Canadian neighbors make it :hearts: Good knowing you Bravo!!! Don’t forget us Americans, not all of us chose to go down this way, please make sure that’s written in the history books.

Oh, Mags.

It's not too late. The people of the US can turn this around, in spite of our government, if we reach out to each other and stick together. We may not be as loud as some others, but the majority of us is trying. And we will keep trying. <hugs>

 

[Bravo]

I have a daily journal and have kept it going since March and many pages dedicated to what is happening worldwide.

 

[musicaljoke]

Why would a country have to give up part of it's sovereignty to work as a group of nations in the fight against this virus?

The participating countries gave up their right to act independently in order to work for the benefit of the world. For example, information is shared, early access to vaccines is determined by where lies the greatest need, rather than who had the most money, research is co-ordinated instead of hoarded, public health strategies and clinical protocols are studied as a global effort.

Countries granted to the WHO authority to collect information from both government and private sources, and if necessary to share that information with other countries. There is also a mandate that all countries will protect human rights when managing disease events. The WHO can also ask countries for justification for harsh government responses and policies that don't conform to the mandate of fighting the disease.

Countries make a commitment to follow international law in the fight against disease during a pandemic. In doing so, participating countries give up part of their sovereignty.

 

[RANCH]

The participating countries gave up their right to act independently in order to work for the benefit of the world. For example, information is shared, early access to vaccines is determined by where lies the greatest need, rather than who had the most money, research is co-ordinated instead of hoarded, public health strategies and clinical protocols are studied as a global effort.

Countries granted to the WHO authority to collect information from both government and private sources, and if necessary to share that information with other countries. There is also a mandate that all countries will protect human rights when managing disease events. The WHO can also ask countries for justification for harsh government responses and policies that don't conform to the mandate of fighting the disease.

Countries make a commitment to follow international law in the fight against disease during a pandemic. In doing so, participating countries give up part of their sovereignty.

Interesting. I still don't get why a country has to give up part of it's sovereignty if it's willingly working together with other countries.

We shouldn't have to give up anything. We should instead be giving to reach a common goal. JMO

 

[Lavender Moon]

Bodies are being exhumed in Mexico to make room for coronavirus deaths

In Mexico City, the dead usually lay peacefully for decades in public cemeteries. Now, laws limiting burial rights – specifically the length of time a body can be buried – are being enforced around parts of the country because cemeteries are running out of room for the dead.

It's a widespread issue related to the coronavirus pandemic and is complicated by an overcrowded system, according to photojournalist Jonathan Alpeyrie, who has been covering the pandemic in Mexico and spoke to CBSN from Mexico City.

He said municipal cemeteries are exhuming bodies in order to make room for the recently deceased.

Until the numbers improve, local governments have to try to anticipate the need for space, says Alpeyrie. So cemetery tenures in some areas – laws that allow bodies to be removed after a certain number of years – will have to be enforced.

"There are enough deaths in Mexico that are putting a heavy strain on the cemeteries and crematoriums in major cities throughout Mexico that they do have to resort to using this law in order to make room, and we have seen this firsthand, and it's quite- it's quite difficult to watch," he said.[/QUOTE]
Where are they going to place the exhumed bodies?

 

[musicaljoke]

Interesting. I still don't get why a country has to give up part of it's sovereignty if it's willingly working together with other countries.

We shouldn't have to give up anything. We should instead be giving to reach a common goal. JMO

Maybe it's just the terminology. We should indeed be giving our all to reach a common goal. Of that, there is no misunderstanding.