elainebenice
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Okay, I can look now! Thanks!
I hope it works better for you than it has for me. At this rate, we may solve this thing by 2015.......
Okay, I can look now! Thanks!
Ok quick question..in my travels to sort thru the escambia clerk's website again to remember who BWM was the atty for (btw, I found out who BWM *phew)) I found this:
http://www.escambiaclerk.com/xml/xml.asp?ucase_id=51828448
Appears to be Byrd's first divorce...and on line 33:
33 03/19/1996 CONSENT FOR RELINQUISHMENT BY ADOPTED MOTHER
It also has where the Associated Press paid $68 to get this document today.
And on that note, anyone who has posted rumor and conjecture they cannot back up in some way should go back and fix it before any of the moderators here have to. That's not sleuthing, and that's not what we do here.
This is a site with a bias toward victims, we're pretty up front and clear about that.
Innocent people are victimized all the time. We see it every day here.
I stated it many pages back but I'll paraphrase. It's not that we WANT to find dirt on them or to make it "because of them."
However, to find out the MOTIVE/WHY these people chose the Billings to rob and kill, we've got to pull back and see any and all possibilities that may come to fruition.
This isn't a clean cut "He hit my son in the face, so I went and killed him" story. Hence, we have NO CLUE why this happened.
And this is the same Sheriff who vehemently denied the DEA was involved, even after their own spokesperson said THEY WERE.
Sometimes things are said, or not said, in an effort to conceal what's going on behind the scenes. That behind the scenes thing is what we are all trying to figure out.
I'm not trying to accuse the Billings of being 'bad' people, but I am trying to figure out the connection among them and everyone else.
Could someone, besides Steadfast, please explain what exactly constitues "speculation." How could you even talk about a case of this scope and complexity with having an exchange of ideas?Just wanted to bring this post by (moderator) forward to remind us of the rules.
This is interesting:
http://www.corporationwiki.com/Florida/Pensacola/Barry-W-McCleary-p1345600.aspx
WHAT is the company "BS DUMP"?
Didn't the Sheriff say the DEA was brought into this case because many of the suspects have drug ties and had illegal weapons and the DEA assisted them in tracking these people down? Sounds very reasonable to me.
I think they chose the Billings because they had car dealerships and dealers are known to carry cash on them and they would probably have a safe at their home to put the money in when they came in each day.
No, to the best of my knowledge, the Sheriff has not stated the suspects have drug ties and illegal weapons. He has not given that much information for sure! If he has finally acknowledged the DEA it is only to say they are looking at all avenues. Nothing specific from Morgan yet!
No, to the best of my knowledge, the Sheriff has not stated the suspects have drug ties and illegal weapons. He has not given that much information for sure! If he has finally acknowledged the DEA it is only to say they are looking at all avenues. Nothing specific from Morgan yet!
We are only allowed to post full names of people if they have been named by LE as being investigated. We need to be very careful about posting innuendo, speculation, unfounded linkages between people, etc. especially if those involve the victim. Pretty often posters' speculations and guesses transform themselves into "facts" a few pages later.
For instance, there have been linkages made here like "Joe Smith is a myspace friend of one of the suspects, and one of his friends lives in another state and has custody issues. The victims had lots of adopted kids. Get the connection?" That's really sloppy.
In my opinion, this thread has gotten way out of hand, way off base, and is no longer very helpful in understanding this crime.
I think the complications and various motives involve the suspects and not the victims, yet I've seen less work done tying the suspects together and delving into their activities (drug debts, prison friendships, missing linkages) than has been done trying (unsuccessfully) to tie the victims to criminal activity.
In reading back through previous posts, I see there seems to be a connection between the Billings, Pamela Long Wiggins, and Chelsea Statam. Is this a firm connection? Is the connection that CS lived at one time in one of the Billings' rentals and currently resides in one of PLM's rentals according to CS' arrest report on the same day Gonzales and Coldiron were arrested?
CS declares she is a lesbian on MS. Wasn't it questioned in a previous post that PLM might swing both ways because of a court case involving her "sexual assault" of the female plaintiff. Could CS have received some of the safe's stash from PLM and was trying to pawn it? Am I missing something? Am I even following on this at all? I am definitely open to correction if anyone has the time.