Court: Teaching Credential Required To Home School

[KOOL LOOK]

I hope so KOOL. This ruling is outrageous.

Focus on the Family, headed by Dr. James Dobson will be all over it, Praise God. Oh, and speaking of God, so will he. The dumbest parent can and still can be the best teacher a child ever had. I would take a dumb, not educated good hearted, common sense with good morals person to teach my child anyday over an educated try it all judge who oversteps their boundaries into the sacred territory of parenthood.

Hey Sweet Sally.

 

[KatK]

Ok then, make the private schools have to hire only teachers who are certified too, I can still get behind that. Do we, or do we not want to see to it that each and every child has a proper education in this Nation? Well, if we do, then there are some hard rules that have to be put down. It isn't easy, and it will be painful, but it is needful.

 

[BhamMama]

I for one do not want the federal government stepping into my personal business. No one should want the government to step in and start a precedent of telling you how to raise your kids.

Homeschooling has been here for a long time. If it were such a bad thing then states that have wonderful homeschool laws, some even write it into their state constitution, would have to think it's not working. They see it is. They also see it as a parental right, and as such, is protected.

Personally, I think they need to clean off their own front porch before they start worrying about what a private entity is doing. Public school is not a viable option for many. To use the private entity as a gain for their own use is not an option either.

 

[BhamMama]

This isn't about liberal, non liberal, educated or not. Morals should always be taught at home. This isn't about religon, or the right to teach your child religious material as it relates to education. Nor will it be fought on that basis.

It's about the right for ALL parents to make educational choices that will be best for their family, regardless of race, religion or sexuality.

HSLDA is putting in an appeal.

 

[sillygoose]

Hmmm...I can see The Soviet Socialist Republic of America just over the horizon. This is what it's coming to, people, if you want the government telling you how to do every single thing in your life. Next they'll want me to get a degree in cooking so that I can feed my children properly. Red America here we come. :furious:

 

[luthersmama]

Focus on the Family, headed by Dr. James Dobson will be all over it, Praise God. Oh, and speaking of God, so will he. The dumbest parent can and still can be the best teacher a child ever had. I would take a dumb, not educated good hearted, common sense with good morals person to teach my child anyday over an educated try it all judge who oversteps their boundaries into the sacred territory of parenthood.

Hey Sweet Sally.

The judge isn't overstepping bounds. He is reading the law that the legislature wrote. If Californians want more relaxed homeschooling regs, they just need to persuade their legislature. Don't blame the judge.

 

[BarnGoddess]

There are a number of homeschooled children in our area. Most are from larger families and some have stopped at high school age and enrolled them there. Most are in 4-H and are socialized through other local activities such as Boy and Girl Scouts and church groups.

I found the Colorado regulations:

http://www.cde.state.co.us/cdeedserv/homeschool.htm

(a) A parent or an adult relative designated by a parent to provide instruction in a nonpublic home-based educational program shall not be subject to the requirements of the "Colorado Educator Licensing Act of 1991", article 60.5 of this title, nor to the provisions of article 61 of this title relating to teacher employment.

That takes care of the requirements of a parent. No license required. I do know that Colorado has a program that needs to be followed and testing is required

(d) A nonpublic home-based educational program shall include, but need not be limited to, communication skills of reading, writing, and speaking, mathematics, history, civics, literature, science, and regular courses of instruction in the constitution of the United States as provided in section 22-1-108.

(f) Each child participating in a nonpublic home-based educational program shall be evaluated when such child reaches grades three, five, seven, nine, and eleven. Each child shall be given a nationally standardized achievement test to evaluate the child's academic progress, or a qualified person shall evaluate the child's academic progress.

So there are rules to follow and a guided program of study. One family I know had an area in their home for their four kids schooling. Bookshelves, computer, workbooks, etc.

 

[absinthe]

California! It is shocking to think California would come down with this law since it is so liberal and open-minded. You can smoke pot openly in California, if you are gay, you can get a civil union (yay!) and if you wanna be a hippy living on the streets, it is totally OK! They embrace differences! Just like I do! But here they go restricting parents on how they want to raise their kids? Insane!

Go after the child abusers and groups like NAMBLA! Those are the kids you should be worried about. Not our kids who are loved and respected.

Back up off Cali. None of the things you wrote are true, btw. I only wish they were.

 

[golfmom]

The obvious solution for Californians who wish to continue home schooling is to enroll their children in home based school programs. That way certified teachers can monitor student progress via the internet.

 

[pixies]

The obvious solution for Californians who wish to continue home schooling is to enroll their children in home based school programs. That way certified teachers can monitor student progress via the internet.

Since the lawmakers are just doing their own thing and not actually listening to those who so unwisely put them into office I think the only thing we can do is not obey.

Civil disobedience is the only true option if this law is on the books.

 

[Trino]

There is already a state mandate similar to this in Minnesota:

http://www.homeedmag.com/lawregs/minnesota.html

Subd. 10. Requirements for instructors. A person who is providing instruction to a child must meet at least The following requirements:

(1) hold a valid Minnesota teaching license in the field and for the grade level taught;

(2) be directly supervised by a person holding a valid Minnesota teaching license;

(3) successfully complete a teacher competency examination;

(4) provide instruction in a school that is accredited by an accrediting agency, recognized according to section 123B.445, or recognized by the commissioner;

(5) hold a baccalaureate degree; or

(6) be the parent of a child who is assessed according to the procedures in subdivision 11.

Subd. 11. Assessment of performance. (a) Each year the performance of every child who is not enrolled in a public school must be assessed using a nationally norm-referenced standardized achievement examination. The superintendent of the district in which the child receives instruction and the person in charge of the child's instruction must agree about the specific examination to be used and the administration and location of the examination.

(b) To the extent the examination in paragraph (a) does not provide assessment in all of the subject areas in subdivision 9, the parent must assess the child's performance in the applicable subject area. This requirement applies only to a parent who provides instruction and does not meet the requirements of subdivision 10, clause (1), (2), or (3).

(c) If the results of the assessments in paragraphs (a) and (b) indicate that the child's performance on the total battery score is at or below the 30th percentile or one grade level below the performance level for children of the same age, the parent must obtain additional evaluation of the child's abilities and performance for the purpose of determining whether the child has learning problems.

 

[MagicRose99]

Back up off Cali. None of the things you wrote are true, btw. I only wish they were.

Thank you! I was laughing hysterically at all her misassumptions! LOL!

 

[pixies]

Thank you! I was laughing hysterically at all her misassumptions! LOL!

Misassumptions??
I was in San Fran last month and witnessed all the above, my friend. My best friend married her partner of 20 years and I witnessed people of all ages smoking pot in the park and just out in the open and I witnessed those old hippies sitting happily on the street corner completely OK with their lives! We travelled all over San Fran and witnessed many many things that would not go over well in say...Iowa but it was openly embraced by the CALIFORNIANS I met and the ones I know.

I am all for people doing their own thing if it makes them happy and does not harm anyone else. I liked California!

All of California? No, I am sure it is not but it does happen there even if you think I am making "assumptions".

Laugh all you want, friend, but regardless of your humor it is true.:crazy:

 

[MagicRose99]

Misassumptions??
I was in San Fran last month and witnessed all the above, my friend. My best friend married her partner of 20 years and I witnessed people of all ages smoking pot in the park and just out in the open and I witnessed those old hippies sitting happily on the street corner completely OK with it. We travelled all over San Fran and witnessed many many things that would not go over well in say...Iowa but it was openly embraced by the CALIFORNIANS I met and the ones I know.

I am all for people doing their own thing if it makes them happy and does not harm anyone else. I liked California!

All of California? No, I am sure it is not but it does happen there.

Laugh all you want, friend, but regardless of your humor it is true.:crazy:

Then EVERYTHING you witnessed was illegal... it is NOT legal to smoke pot openly in CA. You can use "medical marajuana" but not out in public.

Gays cannot marry or be bound by "civil unions" - as a matter of fact, CA's high court just heard arguements yesterday for the possibilities of this happening in the future.

Sorry... but as someone who has lived in CA all of her life, I think I know what is legal and what is not...

 

[KOOL LOOK]

I for one do not want the federal government stepping into my personal business. No one should want the government to step in and start a precedent of telling you how to raise your kids.

Homeschooling has been here for a long time. If it were such a bad thing then states that have wonderful homeschool laws, some even write it into their state constitution, would have to think it's not working. They see it is. They also see it as a parental right, and as such, is protected.

Personally, I think they need to clean off their own front porch before they start worrying about what a private entity is doing. Public school is not a viable option for many. To use the private entity as a gain for their own use is not an option either.

Thank you for this information about the lawsuit. Amen Sister! Get the stinkin log out of your own eye. The government has a mandate already to police and patrol, the public school system and it's a whole lot more broke than private schooling.

Oh, home schooling has been around since the beginning of time. It's a foundational rock. Leave it alone, but then again, things like this humor me, for it shows what I preach. I dare any entity to tell me I can't train and educate my babies at home. Their now te he, 19 and 10 years old. I had to home school Beau for 5 months as his private christian school teacher got in an automobile accident, throwing her, and two grand kids out of the van that got t-boned and flipped over twice. Praise God! Not even one broken bone. Just a scratch on the grandsons face.

Leave our stay at home moms alone that choose to rear and raise their own families and not burden another with their responsibilities they've so righteously answered the call and mandate.

 

[KOOL LOOK]

The judge isn't overstepping bounds. He is reading the law that the legislature wrote. If Californians want more relaxed homeschooling regs, they just need to persuade their legislature. Don't blame the judge.

I hold the judge into the highest appointed position on this Earth. He sits in the highest seat in our land, and yes mame, I will hold him into account for every word that proceedeth out of his mouth and every ink mark his finger writes and signs into orders.

 

[KOOL LOOK]

Since the lawmakers are just doing their own thing and not actually listening to those who so unwisely put them into office I think the only thing we can do is not obey.

Civil disobedience is the only true option if this law is on the books.

:clap: :clap:

 

[southcitymom]

I am a huge homeschooling fan and am blown away that this opinion came out of California. Extremely dangerous precedent - my prayers that it gets overturned at a higher level.

ETA - I don't think parents should be required to have any sort of special training or education to homeschool their children.

 

[2sisters]

More and more parents are choosing to homeschool nowadays. Some of the parents I have come across doing it are so inept and ignorant it is scary. I think there should be some guidelines in place.

 

[BeeBee]

Parents aren't the ones that are actually schooling the kids anyway. I "home schooled" my daughter during her last school year. The school you decide to go with sends the books and the tests and your child does it. You help at times, just like you would with homework but the parent isn't the one standing over the child doing the teaching. If a parent's too dumb to help with the home schooling then they'll be too dumb to help with the regular schooling.