GUILTY CT - Barry James, 59, stabbed to death, Fairfield, 28 Aug 2006

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interesting - I guess I'm in the minority but I believe the little girl probably was molested. I think her parents would have a pretty good idea of how articulate/reliable she was and the reason her father flew off the handle is because he believed it was true. Don't get me wrong - I think her father did the absolute wrong thing but I bet he believed the the guy molested his daughter.

I think 'probably' could very well be what the father thought - but that should never be enough to kill someone.

I'd go with 'probably' for my own opinion, but only in the sense of 51% chance - the story sounds very much like something that could be true or false very easily.

 

[bing1]

Are you kidding?? They use those threats anyhow!
You bet your butt someone who fondles a child should DIE.
Lets call it like it is...
Murder is one shot deal ... the real victims are those that remember their loved one.
Child abuse lasts forever. If you don't believe me you go ask every drug addict and crack *advertiser censored*.
You go ahead and believe for the sake of many I hope your the one who is right.
Honestly I do not think that the DP stops someone from killing or committing any other crime.
I really do not care either way actually .... In real life I would not hesitate to kill someone who harmed any child I know.
If it means prison for the rest of my life then so be it.
I will happily serve those days knowing the will harm another child NEVER Again!

I do have to ask... You said you think a child could recover???
OK maybe that is true ... but why should more then one have to?
WHy?? so gradpa can molest a few other kids?? One child harmed is enough after that it is societies fault for permitting such scum to live among us.
We as adults who pay taxes and vote are guilty if we permit someone to do it more then once.

I haven't read the entire thread yet but had to stop here to say thank you for putting into words what I have been feeling for so long.

I have never been sexually abused, but people close to me have. I don't think there are very many people who can say that they don't know someone who has been abused.

This is an epidemic. This is going to destroy us if we don't do something to stop it. For every one abuser there are many many abused, that is a proven fact. It is also proven that if you have been abused you have a greater chance of becoming an abuser. Do the math! The more that people think that this isn't a big problem the bigger the numbers get and then we will be left with one heck of a mess to fix up.

It's not just my children and grandchildren but EVERY child who is at risk that I worry about. A person who has been abused can never totally completely recover from this. Even in the smallest of ways it can come back. Think of the adult who was abused as a child who watches the news and hears a story of a case of abuse. That adult is automatically sent back to that moment when he or she was abused themselves. Even the mildest of cases have effects that will last forever and that is just not acceptable to me.

No matter how careful you are it happens and I for one am not sad to hear that any child molester has been sent to the gates of hell to pay for what he/she has done.

 

[Peter Hamilton]

Well,it may be an "epidemic",but that doesn't mean one has the right to kil someone else--and this guy didn't exactly catch the molester in the act,just heard some secondhand account of it via his wife---the father here has a serious problem--lack of self-control--the prisons are full of people like these,they cannot control their actions---I'll be shocked if this vicious killer gets less than 20 years in Attica

 

[bbmcrae]

Yes, I do.
and I don't think anyone except is ailing 89 YO mother is surprised by it.

He made it habit to act like a loon and go naked throughout the neighborhood.
A 2 YO doesn't make up something like that.

I'm sorry, I missed the article that said he walked naked through the neighborhood. I know the father said this guy had been naked near a window. But that's different. Inappropriate, for sure, but it's not parading around naked. And it's not the same as molesting. Was there an article that said this?

Btw, it's an established fact that very young children have a hard time telling the difference between reality and fantasy, between actual events and suggested events...look at the McMartin Daycare case...this guy MIGHT have molested her...but there is plenty that stinks about this case to raise my suspicions. IMHO.

And hopefully, none of us will ever be the victim of vigilante justice. I have often wished I could get my hands on any number of predators, but I have to think, what if I was wrongly accused of an evil act and someone decided I needed to pay, right now?

 

[luthersmama]

They seem to be implying that the neighbor had lock picks and such.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/13/nyregion/13stab.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

I have always had dogs, except for a period of about a year. Even though they have always been completely harmless, they would never allow somebody into the house undetected.

 

[bbmcrae]

I'm waiting to see what comes out in this case. The repeated abuse allegations could be real, could also be fed to her by mom...it's all crazy.

This has been asked, but how would James get so much access to the child? I don't have a 2-year-old, but I imagine she would never be out of my eyes and ears. Was James a master criminal bent on molesting her?

 

[joe jones]

How has it benefited his daughter or his family by doing this, he is bound to serve a long prison sentence,


if she was abused she needs her father to support and help her deal with this situation, not have him locked away for years,

and I would like to know how he was able to get in and out of her bedroom and her parents never once caught him, is her bedroom on the ground floor, did they leave doors and windows open with a 2 year old in the house,

 

[BillyGoatGruff]

Children are often unreliable witnesses, children especially under 4 are VERY easy manipulated and come to the conclusions or tell stories at the "suggestion" of adults.

At 2, ask a 4 year old to tell you about something. They don't know the difference between reality, fantasy, or what someone has suggested to them.

I find it very suspect that this girl "told her" mom while they were "alone out of town", and not just tell the Mom and Dad, that this man came through my window last night when it happened.

As in the starry, starry night. Please how many 2 year old children use the term" starry night.

I do think that this child may have overheard others talk about this man. Who knows what the environment that this child lives in, after all her Father "seems" a tad unstable, has anger control issues, destroys public displays, and kills people on the basis of no factual evidence.

I think this man "was just looking" for justification in killing this neighbour and what better "pseudo" justification as in "he harmed" my daughter.

So lets look at "who suggested" what and when to this child.

A child that watches cartoons, plays dress up and dolls, and hold tea parties with "fictional" stuffed animals and does not know the difference between what is real and what is not.

Trust me.....this just does not add up.

And most children would never say he put "it" on her nose and belly.
A child who might have been "coached" would describe it more in terms of sexual detail adults associate with sex, not what child molesters do with their victims. Most pedophiles do not penetrate their victims, but instead use the child as a masturbatory device of sorts.

This child was molested.

I believe the "starry nights" might be a reference to a night light. My niece has a rotating night light that throws cartoonish stars on the walls and cieling of her room. SOmeone watching a child's room would see that and view it as a perverse "Bat Signal" that the child has been put to bed and is alone.

 

[BillyGoatGruff]

So much so wrong with this case, from acting out a murderous stabbing based on a 2-year-old's ambiguous statement to her mother, to how the neighbor would have gained access to the 2-year-old in the middle of the night.

Even though the parents were wary of the kooky neighbor next door who they say they saw through the window inappropriately dressed (or undressed) and other possible suspicions, did they leave their doors/windows unlocked at night?

It's a horrible situation for all, and this very young girl will probably have to be raised without her daddy because of his ill-conceived plan to stab his neighbor to death.

I wouldn't call going berserk and leaping through a window with a knife a "plan". It's an act.

 

[Masterj]

And most children would never say he out "it" on her nose and belly.
A child who might have been "coached" would describe it more in terms of sexual detail adults associate with sex, not what child molesters do with their victims. Most pedophiles do not penetrate their victims, but instead use the child as a masturbatory device of sorts.

This child was molested.

I believe the "starry nights" might be a reference to a night light. My niece has a rotating night light that throws cartoonish stars on the walls and cieling of her room. SOmeone watching a child's room would see that and view it as a perverse "Bat Signal" that the child has been put to bed and is alone.

I agree BGG. This is a horrible thought and I feel uncomfortable even writing it. Putting "it on her nose" may have been an attempt to force her to perform oral sex. I still need more details on this case, but I am more inclined to think she was molested.

Does anyone know where the child's room was located in relation to her parent's room?

 

[BillyGoatGruff]

I'm waiting to see what comes out in this case. The repeated abuse allegations could be real, could also be fed to her by mom...it's all crazy.

This has been asked, but how would James get so much access to the child? I don't have a 2-year-old, but I imagine she would never be out of my eyes and ears. Was James a master criminal bent on molesting her?

Houses in that part of the country are really close together. I think there's like 15 feet between the two homes. It would not be at all difficult for someone to climb in and out of a window unnoticed on numerous occasions, especially if that person knows the neighborhood's rythms and routines.

 

[bbmcrae]

Houses in that part of the country are really close together. I think there's like 15 feet between the two homes. It would not be at all difficult for someone to climb in and out of a window unnoticed on numerous occasions, especially if that person knows the neighborhood's rythms and routines.

I understand, but I still don't buy how someone could break into a house, molest a child, and escape unnoticed on numerous occasions. So much risk and chance of being caught...it's not how most predators operate...they are usually someone who gains the child's trust over time...if this guy was the local weirdo and the parents were very aware of him...how could he possibly do this to the child with no one noticing?? I know anything is possible, but this seems really hinky to me.

 

[CyberLaw]

Well I just read an article: The facts: The Mom and Dad have two dogs, the neighbour weighed 300 lbs and had Diabetes, he would have had to scale 2 fence and then lift himself up and thorough a window. Without making a sound to alert the parents and or dogs.

He would have had to support his weight by scaling two fences and then again "suport his weight and then "haul" his 300 lbs body though a window.

Then he would have had to repeat all again, to leave, without any heavy breathing, with a "known medical condion" and under the noses of not one but two dogs.......

When asked how this man would have gotten into their home: The Mom broke down crying(no kidding, I am sure now she "has some idea" that her daughter may have "had a story")that lead to her husbanding murdering their neighbour and the Dad "spending" many years behind bars.

The Dad just "glared" at reporters in front of the wife when this question came up.......

As the facts arise, I am having more then enough doubts that the child who said "he comes to me in the starry" nights.

Aren't most nights starry.............

To think that this man who weighed 300 lbs, "sneaked" in the house without the dogs being alerted at all, with a medical condion, and on more then one occassion, is a situation that anyone would find suspect.

I would assume that this house was a two story house, and the man would have had to "scale" to the upper floor......

Plus his age was 58 years old......this does not nor will it ever "add up".

Those are verified facts, not the story of a two year old.

I feel that since the "mother" was visiting her sister in Rhode Island and the Dad phoned her that the "neighbour got hurt" they may have "helped" the young girl "remember" that the man came to her "in the starry nights".

Please........300 lbs people have difficulty walking....let alone climbing fences, scaling houses, climbing through windows, and reversing this all over again........without any knowledge of the parents....or dogs

Not a chance especially at 58 with a medical conditon.

Also "the little girl pointed to her "groin" and said: Barry is this.

That is an adult thing to do as.........we all know the "adult" meaning of that......not a two year old child.

 

[luthersmama]

Cyberlaw - Where is that article? Is it online? Linkable?

 

[luthersmama]

Found it:

http://www.nypost.com/news/regional...lnews_jeane_macintosh_and_lukas_i__alpert.htm

 

[CyberLaw]

Sorry I did not source it, I don't know how to "successfully" post a link, but the article is in the New York Post online addition.

I went to Crime2000.com and the link is there......

One day I will successfully post a link......someday.....soon I hope

 

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Interesting last line - "he immediately declined to make a statement" - OK, he's a lawyer, so he knows all about the tricks the police use, but he seems not to be trying to claim he didn't do this, so why not make a statement? The only reason to avoid that in a legal sense is to avoid later having to defend contradictions to your initial statement when you change your story....

 

[southcitymom]

Well I just read an article: The facts: The Mom and Dad have two dogs, the neighbour weighed 300 lbs and had Diabetes, he would have had to scale 2 fence and then lift himself up and thorough a window. Without making a sound to alert the parents and or dogs.

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I feel very very sorry for this two-year-old girl, but as the facts emerge in this case, I highly doubt that the neighbor molested her.

And I personally am confused that the mother, upon hearing what the daughter had to say, didn't go through a similar process in her mind, wondering "How could this heavy, old, infirm man have gotten to her in the middle of the night when we have two dogs...etc...etc...??? Hmmmm...maybe I need to check this out before I decide how to proceed."

It sounds like both parents were worried about this man's off behavior and were looking for a reason to go off. Both parents strike me as highly immature. They sound like hysterical-types who overreact easily at things. I am crushed that this father's over-reaction is going to take him away from his child - probably for many many years.

 

[spclk]

I understand, but I still don't buy how someone could break into a house, molest a child, and escape unnoticed on numerous occasions. So much risk and chance of being caught...it's not how most predators operate....

Ask Elizabeth Smart if she believes someone could do this.

Sorry, but I believe the daugher was molested and I must say that if I thought some sicko had done this to my daughter, I may have done the same thing. Not to say that I believe in vigalante justice, but as a society we have just sat back and allowed our children to be violated and the law to do nothing about it. If more criminals were afraid of dads like this, maybe they would think twice.

Also, for those that criticize the mother for calling the dad and inciting him, I would certainly have called my husband as soon as our daughter told me these things were I in her shoes. As parents, we try to discuss everything involving the raising of children. He would have been the first person I called. I just can't make myself feel much sympathy for this guy. I feel sorry for his family, but the odds are good that he was a molester.