Silver Alert CT- Jennifer Dulos, 50, New Canaan, 24 May 2019 #11 *ARRESTS*

[Tink56]

This is a legal argument that FD is making -- his argument may not be valid. The court may reject the argument and rule that it does have subject matter jurisdiction over the matter. I haven't read the substance of the motion papers and don't know if his jurisdiction argument has merit.

Thanks again! Good information.

 

[afitzy]

@MarissaAlter
This paints a very different picture than the motion filed by Dulos’ attorney asking that the couple be allowed to see each other. Pattis wrote that Troconis still loves Dulos and believes in his innocence. @News12CT

12:39 PM - 26 Jun 2019 pst

Verified account 8h8 hours ago
“I just want to tell my children that they’re constantly on my mind and that I love them and miss them very much.” Fotis Dulos' brief statement following today's court appearance in divorce case. No mention of his estranged wife who disappeared May 24th. From Twitter @MarissaAlter.

 

[SteveP]

That’s the last card NP will pull. After all else fails, he’ll try to play the insanity card.

For himself or for FD? I think a valid argument could be made that they are both frikkin' nuts.

 

[Canchance]

Thanks for injecting a bit of optimism here as I had lost mine for today.

I guess I've been going through the public divorce documents slowly (nowhere near done) and just see more of Judge Hellers indecision and inaction being played out and it truly hit me hard today given how Pattis has been able to use confidential information meant for the court to paint a picture of a missing person that is not here to defend herself. I just wonder if Judge Heller is not comfortable in her role as Family Court Judge given her entire work history is in corporate litigation? IDK but these worlds are very far apart. I am in no way doubting her credentials but she seems out of her depth in Family Court. We can only watch and wait on the situation.

I do appreciate your optimism as its been totally dishearting to see the CT Judiciary/GAL etc. in action on the divorce/custody matter and under the microscope of the national press. Why would the GAL even give a copy of the report to FD to begin with? Do we know? Did JD atty. receive the same treatment with regards to the report from the GAL? This GAL has a history and IMO bears close scruitny.

I had something similar to a GAL during my custody fight. She was totally in my ex’s pocket, and his lawyer’s as well. Didn’t matter because my kids wanted nothing to do with their father and nobody could change that. But I gotta say... the fact that our GAL type person was so partial angered me beyond belief just in principle. I’m sure there are very good ones but likely it’s the bell curve as usual

 

[sleuth66]

IMO if he was using Waze the only way to cross into NY that would make sense is via Ridgefield either from 84 or 7, which ultimately would have had to put him on 123. He could have either gone straight down 123 from 35 or if coming from downtown Ridgefield he could have taken a short cut from 35 to West Lane and eventually merged back into 123 still in NY either on West or Elmwood. But both West Lane and 123 have signs that you are entering NY. It's possible that he then went to East Street and to Briscoe on his way to Sturbridge and Briscoe i a little NY and then New Canaan and there might not be a sign there but he'd have been in New York already for many miles.

There are a lot of ways to cut through back there if you know the area. Not sure that WAZE would take you on them but who’s to trust he was really depending on WAZE anyway? NP clearly had to come up with some justification. I used to cut through there on Silver Spring to Ruscoe to 33 (other cut throughs to 33 there too) which goes by Browns Reservoir. There’s just a very short piece of Silver Spring that goes into NY (right by the reservoir).
Not sure how worthwhile it is to speculate on this because certainly LE knows where he was when he crossed the line (and we don’t). It does seem like FD is doing a lot of wacky unusual things like his one glove sweeping etc and maybe the driving across the line to establish that its “normal” for him to be doing these things, being in these places, etc.

 

[afitzy]

From @MarissaAlter: "Family court status conference in Dulos divorce case is over. No decisions or discussions about custody of 5 kids. Focus was on sealed psychological evaluation in custody case. Attorney Norm Pattis acknowledged he violated judge’s order but said he was unaware of it" [BBM].

Doesn't No Case Norm have a team of well trained staff to answer a simple question about standing judicial orders in Family Court? Not sure the "unaware of it" response is much different from the response he gave yesterday to blaming Waze for FD side trip into NY which is prohibited. Don't get why Pattis response was even remotely acceptable to the Judge?! MOO

 

[oviedo]

From @MarissaAlter: "Family court status conference in Dulos divorce case is over. No decisions or discussions about custody of 5 kids. Focus was on sealed psychological evaluation in custody case. Attorney Norm Pattis acknowledged he violated judge’s order but said he was unaware of it" [BBM].

Doesn't No Case Norm have a team of well trained staff to answer a simple question about standing judicial orders in Family Court? Not sure the "unaware of it" response is much different from the response he gave yesterday to blaming Waze for FD side trip into NY which is prohibited. Don't get why Pattis response was even remotely acceptable to the Judge?! MOO

Because IMO this judge has never held FD and his attorneys accountable for anything in this divorce litigation - she will blow this off as well JMO

 

[afitzy]

Fotis Dulos says his children are ‘constantly on my mind’ while his lawyer suggests ‘revenge suicide’ is behind wife’s disappearance

"The status hearing before Judge Donna Heller in the two-year divorce proceedings and custody battle was called for by the court-appointed guardian ad litem of the children, Attorney Michael Meehan. Meehan on Tuesday filed a motion accusing Pattis of violating a court order when he commented publicly about parts of the sealed custody report and psychological evaluation completed for the couple’s divorce case — the file that Pattis seeks to have unsealed".

"In another motion filed by Pattis on Tuesday, he wrote that Dulos found a copy of the report in his Farmington home after he was released on bail and after at least one search of the home by state police investigators".

“It is the undersigned’s belief that Ms. Dulos was aware of the contents of the report, made statements about its recommendations to Mr. Dulos, and that she acted in accordance with her stated intention to do anything within her power to see to it that he was deprived of their children’s companionship,” Pattis said.

"During the hearing, an attorney for Farber Dulos said he was appalled that Dulos had the report, which should not have been in his possession".

"Pattis, in a motion seeking custody of the children, asked for the report to be unsealed. Heller instead ordered that all the copies of the report be given to Meehan. Heller told Pattis that he can view the report at court and take notes, but only in the presence of Meehan".

"Attorney Reuben Midler who represents Farber Dulos, attacked the veracity of the report, saying that it would not hold up in family court and was completed by an expert that would not be able to testify in family court. Heller said that the report would have no impact on her ruling".

After reading the above article and the above quotes I have grave reservations about the GAL in this case and seriously question why Judge Heller has done nothing to release him from the case effective immediately. HOW did FD get a copy of the report if not from the GAL? How can there be ZERO consequences to either FD or his atty No Case Norm for releasing the report to the public. Why is this being permitted to occur? Baffled.

 

[SteveP]

I haven’t heard any one say he’s innocent but.
I’ve read men saying he did it because he wanted to spend more time with his kids
and she was blocking him

I am a man, and trust me, you would never hear me say that about FD. Just sayin'.

 

[kimch33kim]

He copped the idea from Snoop Doggo
With my mind on my money and money on my mind ~

 

[Bulldogs2]

Just goes to show the level of brazenness of FD, really. He dgaf... But what's he in a rush for? He's just living in limbo until he goes to prison for the rest of his life (!!) IMO.

I think he will make an escape for Greece

 

[tmar]

Yes!! My mother!!! She does not access the internet and switches between all local news stations here in CT. She is convinced JD did herself in because
1) that’s what the news says every day
2) there is no new evidence and since “the news” said they can’t read the license plate on that video they can’t prove its FD. It could be anyone she says!!
I spent a few minutes trying to help her understand but listening to her makes me totally understand why NP says what he does!!

Welcome ajksmom.
NP, a Creep, is going to continue with his crap, until he is shut down.
He knows, there are people out there who will believe him.
Get these people as Jurors, is his aim.
However evidence should be the answer with FD soon in Prison, with these stories disappearing, along with NP.
MOO.

 

[afitzy]

Stamford Advocate article has good timeline and solid coverage of today's events in court:

Fotis Dulos sends message to kids, attorney claims Jennifer Dulos orchestrated ‘revenge suicide’

Quotes from article:
"The report — how a copy ended up at Fotis Dulos’ house, and whether Pattis could use it in his defense — was the main subject of a contentious half-hour hearing before Judge Donna Heller, who is overseeing the divorce case".

"A lawyer representing Jennifer Dulos, Reuben Midler, said Pattis was “attempting to use something inadmissible to create a defense.”"

"Pattis said the report would be admissible. “She acted in reliance on that report. She told Mr. Dulos based on that report, ‘You will never see your children, I will see to it.’”"


"“I am required to rebut adverse publicity as to Mr. Dulos, and if there is a person in the world about whom there has been adverse publicity, it is he,” Pattis said earlier. “Right now we are entertaining the possibility that Ms. Dulos has disappeared as a result of a revenge suicide.”"

"Michael Meehan, a Bridgeport attorney and a court-appointed guardian ad litem for the five Dulos children, requested Wednesday’s hearing".

"Meehan accused Pattis of violating a court order that sealed a recent custody and psychological evaluation done on the family by speaking to the media about Jennifer Dulos’ psychological status. Those comments could be seen by her children, Meehan said".

“I am concerned on behalf of my wards,” Meehan told the judge.

"He also said Fotis Dulos’ previous divorce lawyer gave him an affidavit refuting some of the claims Pattis made in a court filing".

"Pattis said he was initially unaware of the court order about the evaluation, which he said Rich Rochlin, another attorney representing Dulos, saw when he picked up a passport from Dulos’ house to get him released on bail earlier this month".

"Pattis said he “glanced” at the psychological report and did not read closely before returning it — but that he did so after making statements about it. Then, a reporter called him preparing what he described as a “hit piece” asking him to confirm earlier statements".

"“I was in a bind,” Pattis said. “I didn’t repeat them but I said I stand by my earlier comments.”"

"Midler said Pattis has a responsibility to be aware of the court order that was issued."

"“This is a family case,” Midler said. “This is not an opportunity for the defendant to establish a criminal defense, which is I think what is going on.”"

 

[Canchance]

I am a man, and trust me, you would never hear me say that. Just sayin'.

And that’s fair. Each situation is different and should be judged accordingly.

 

[CarefullyTaught]

The Courant article is very good. FD claims he found the report and draft of the novel after the police had searched his home.

Waiting on NP/FD to claim that:

(1) JD illegally hacked into FD’s Waze account to deliberately mislead him into NY in violation of his bond conditions, as she is like Fieval somewhere out there, but wants FD forever sent away;

(2) JD maliciously planted the incomplete sealed draft custody report she stole from the clerk’s office and a tea stained copy of her alleged 500 page 19 year old GG foreshadowing novel to frame FD, the GAL, and defense counsel in both cases for this as well, which FD could not have personally done, as he is a busy attractive successful professional man still busy sweeping up; and that

(3) JD and her current and former lawyers should be sanctioned for JD’s deliberately failing to appear in person this week at the emergency custody hearing.

Who’s the real victim here?

From Samara Abramson’s tweets:


Pattis said his team is “entertaining the idea that Jennifer has died by a result of a revenge suicide.”

If by Pattis’s “team,” he means his client, Fotis Dulos, that’s about the only person I can imagine who would find this idea of JD’s revenge suicide “entertaining.”

Just another example of FD’s lack of original ideas and lack of genuine human sensitivity or creativity.

IIRC, I believe JD mentioned in her very first emergency motion and court filing seeking a protective order against FD for herself and the children upon her initial escape from him and divorce filing more than two years ago that JD feared for her life and feared for the safety of the children for a number general and very specific reasons — in particular FD sharing his sick revenge fantasies about the variety of things FD would like to do to get back at former clients FD felt had wronged him.

I said it before and I’ll say it again:

The jaundiced eye none but yellow sees.

FD is a dangerous guy. Once again we see Pattis’s biggest defense challenge is the impossible task of trying to corral his client’s narcissism. Pattis has expended and is expending a tremendous amount of airtime and energy just trying to convince FD to keep his mouth shut and to just let Pattis do all the talking. Pattis has talked and talked. He has spun and resounding. He has framed and reframed that his client is innocent; how his client was framed.

But obviously it’s still not working. For Fotis, it’s never enough.

Fork over the kids and the cash and the exoneration and an apology and ten more HOMI sweet HOMI awards.

Fotis can’t bear all the spotlight diverted from himself. He’s so used to control, he can’t take anyone speaking on his behalf, challenging his narrative/s, or censoring him. Especially not those he views as his lessers.

If FD makes it to the end of this, I predict he’ll defend Pro Se. Likely he won’t be around though: he will have escaped by then unless someone is willing to bankroll him and he stays out on bond with a blank check. He just can’t stand the scrutiny of anything less than everything.

No one is smarter than him. Nobody does it better. Nobody puts Baby in the corner. Why isn’t anyone concerned with how much I’m suffering? Why are my accounts frozen? Why are they paying so much attention to the Farbers? Why is everyone talking about Jennifer? What about my pain? What about my suffering? Why are these people acting like nobody believes me?

Waaaah waaaah waaaah

Marissa Alter‏Verified account @MarissaAlter
Family court status conference in Dulos divorce case is over. No decisions or discussions about custody of 5 kids. Focus was on sealed psychological evaluation in custody case. Attorney Norm Pattis acknowledged he violated judge’s order but said he was unaware of it. @News12CT

7:47 AM - 26 Jun 2019 - pst

Did defense counsel basically just assert an ignorance of the law defense of HIMSELF in the context of at least two cases in which he has entered an appearance as attorney of record on behalf of FD?

Doesn’t Pattis have a legal duty and a professional responsibility to familiarize himself with the court’s orders before opening his mouth in front of TV cameras to discuss sealed documents in violation of the recorded orders of the court in the cases for which he is attorney of record?

Has NP never heard of the classic response to reporters, “No Comment”?

What a psychopath! !

Bingo!

 

[SteveP]

Don’t contact me in any way. That’s pretty clear. Doesn’t really scream I think you are innocent and I love you.

Who says long distance relationships can't work. Apparently, MT wants to love him from a loooooong damn ways away.

 

[Canchance]

I think he will make an escape for Greece

Totally Agree

 

[tmar]

I think he will make an escape for Greece

FD will be caught.
Here in Australia, we had a Creep, running to Greece, with his disguise, a wig.
WELL, he was caught, arrested in Greece, wig and all, and NOW in Prison, back in Australia.

 

[CarefullyTaught]

Press conference:


Fotis Dulos files to regain custody of children

Midler is classy.

 

[afitzy]

For Christ’s sake. I’m several pages behind. But no mother in her right mind would commit revenge suicide and leave her precious children to that lunatic to raise. Give me a break.

Sounds like he is trying to exclude any mothers from his potential jury pool!