Deceased/Not Found CT - Jennifer Dulos, 50, New Canaan, 24 May 2019 *ARRESTS* #46

[BUF]

The two texted for about a week until Ragaglia accidentally sent a text from Fotis back to Fotis. Then writing, “he bit.” Followed by, “I feel horrible...I was texting my son...I am truly a good person.”

Alarmed. Fotis called police, “...concerned that the water and/or vitamins might be some type of poison meant to kill him…” The report says Fotis felt threatened when Ragaglia wrote, “God put me in this situation to end this horrible drama quickly.”
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Police never ended up testing the pills or holy water. They declined to go on camera speaking about the incidents.

Police reports show Fotis Dulos feared Plainville man he originally befriended

 

[spaz1959]

The two texted for about a week until Ragaglia accidentally sent a text from Fotis back to Fotis. Then writing, “he bit.” Followed by, “I feel horrible...I was texting my son...I am truly a good person.”

Alarmed. Fotis called police, “...concerned that the water and/or vitamins might be some type of poison meant to kill him…” The report says Fotis felt threatened when Ragaglia wrote, “God put me in this situation to end this horrible drama quickly.”
........
Police never ended up testing the pills or holy water. They declined to go on camera speaking about the incidents.

Police reports show Fotis Dulos feared Plainville man he originally befriended

This is just so ironic, that I can't help but giggle.

 

[BellaVita]

I originally wrote:
How do you know what the last instructions were? MOO. FD said NP would explain the garbage run. That's what was in the suicide note. It doesn't get any more "last instructions" than that. Sounds like last instructions. FD thinks an explanation of the garbage run will vindicate him for posterity. Now NP is left looking like a fool because there is no explanation that will not be laughed out of the "Court of Public Opinion". MOO.

client instructions and the suicide note are two seperate things. KS alluded to what his clients instructions were in his interview.

Fight for Fotis Dulos’ assets — including family cat — begins in probate court
“His last instructions were to make sure that his name was cleared and that he was exonerated,” Smith said.

KS is just reiterating what the suicide note said. A suicide note IS the last instruction anybody will ever give. There are two usages for the phrase being debated here: simple usage of language and the formal usage described below:

https://www.avvo.com/legal-guides/ugc/10-things-to-include-in-a-letter-of-last-instructions
The letter should include:
1. Personal information that will make paperwork easier (your full name, address, Social Security number, date and place of birth, father's name and mother's maiden name). 2. Location of a will (if there is one). 3. Names of and contact information for friends and family members to be notified of death. 4. Location of all personal documents, including but not limited to birth certificate, Social Security card, marriage papers, citizenship papers, military discharge papers. 5. Information regarding any formal burial plans already made. 6. Membership information for organizations, pensions, and other clubs that might help cover funeral costs. 7. Financial information about all bank and savings accounts (including the location of safe deposit boxes and other hidden accounts). 8. List of all insurance policies (and their beneficiaries) as well as information on accessing each one. 9. Names and contact information for relevant professionals (lawyer, executor of the estate, insurance agents, accountants, investment brokers). 10. A list of all on-line accounts, including user ID's and passwords.

Seriously doubt FD left anything like this, LOL! Maybe he did leave a separate instruction to NP of some sort but the one instruction that KS referenced is in the suicide note. "Last Instructions" while certainly a "thing" is playing semantics in this case. FD wrote that he is innocent and that his attys can clear his name. That's what he wants done. Just because it is not a formal "Last Instructions" does not mean it isn't a last instruction. A suicide note is certainly the final "last instruction" that will ever be given.

 

[Dacaesar]

..... until Ragaglia accidentally sent a text from Fotis back to Fotis. Then writing, “he bit.”

Don’t you just hate when your text goes to the wrong person? Except in this case, it blew this guy’s cover and thus exclusive access to his one way ticket to fame, fortune and book deals.

What a shame. MOO

 

[SkylarSid]

I can't remember, was FD computer confiscated when first arrested? Was he using a computer in his last days? Could the computer still be at the house. Could there be a SD in the house that has financial info on. Did Rena not find it before she needed to leave the house. Perhaps Rena and MT have been communicating. Maybe the lists are bogus just to get back in the house to look for something that FD hid?

Early on he had computers, hard drives, and a server confiscated at the same time they took his vehicles.

 

[Chloe_ee]

breaking the ice

O. M. G and W T H ...

 

[Footprintz]

O. M. G and W T H ...

“It puts the lotion on its skin or else it gets the hose again”

 

[Tink56]

Why Do They Break Plates in Greece?

It's no wonder JFd had reservations about the children attending the Easter "celebration." I can't imagine letting kids run around smashing plates or being near inebriated adults throwing plates. Talk about inappropriate and potentially dangerous activities for a celebration about the return of a savior. SMH...over and over...IMO...MOO

 

[afitzy]

I want clarification on your bolded statement as well.

Does the bold text only apply to the person the charge is being filed against? If so, there is no evidence (that we, the public, know of) that MT did any action outside of Hartford county.

It was mentioned that LE hasn't corroborated MT's alibi for the morning of 5/24, but, unless I missed something, we don't know one way or another whether they have. Our lack of knowledge does not mean LE doesn't know exactly where MT was for most, if not all, of the morning. Maybe she DID take action outside of Hartford county, but JS wouldn't know that based on the AWs (one of which we know he hadn't even read yet).

We (the collective WS we) are more familiar with the case than JS was Friday morning, but we also don't have all of the evidence amassed. I don't think JS is out of line trying for a change of venue based on supposed location of crimes charged, but none of our thoughts on the matter will ultimately decide the outcome. It's a technicality that will either fly, or it won't.

I have to admit to being baffled about why the Court or frankly anyone should give any consideration to a motion filed by a NEW ATTY for a change in venue when the same NEW ATTY had not even read the files? Not only weren't the files read but the full body of evidence hasn't been disclosed. I do think the cheap ploy of the motion being filed was amongst other things to attempt to flush out additional evidence in the hands of the State. Perhaps that is what this NEW ATTY does and so is a specialist in "Cheap Tricks"? IDK, we will have to see.

What kind of ATTY would do this? IMO someone who is desperate but also someone who thinks that nobody (including the courts) is watching or caring and is simply trying to pull a 'fast one' based on rolling the dice about the differing demographics in Hartford vs Fairfield Counties. IMO here we saw a cynical move by an ATTY who just might think they are smarter than the rest of the world. IMO it was also a move that told us pretty much all we need know about this new ATTY and IMO also it was all confirmed with his first Court appearance with MT and Judge White. IMO the new Atty should have left his Hartford style games and tricks in Hartford and not brought them to Stamford!

This leads me to believe that the NEW ATTY was simply shopping for a friendlier venue to try his client AND he seems to be fixated on the NEW YORK PRESS as being the antichrist and somehow averse to his clients issues. He thought he could slip the motion through and then slither back to Hartford with his slimy client where he was no doubt promising her and Mama A a basic 'slap on the wrist' and limited time served on some kind of ridiculous job release program. IMO totally ridiculous as was his stated inability in Court the other day to defend his motion. The whole thing was so ridiculous that I'd love to have seen Judge White simply rip up the ill conceived motion and say, "file again when you are ready to defend your motion sir"!

IDK, but it also seems to be pretty unprofessional behaviour to me when the request is couched under the 'guise' of the location where the alleged crimes were committed and all the statements were made in advance of reading any file material.

MT as a character in this case is no 'bit player' IMO as the NEW ATTY sought to make her out to be either and this tactic was absolutely laughable and simply smacked IMO of Pattisville tactics that we all here have been subject to for months on end. The Press have spent months documented MT and her life choices and relationship history and her virtually non existent work history too. MT has been unmasked and uncovered and now a new attorney is seeking to 'reinvent his client' in a new venue when she has been widely reviled by the Press on a global basis for months not just for 'character issues' but for how she has lived her life for 45 years and how she conducted herself in her role as mistress of Fd for a number of years.

MT as we have seen from AW1-3 did not cooperate with LE, she lied on rinse and repeat for months at time and her character issues could fill volumes when her relationship history is investigated as has been done here on WS over many threads. A few words to describe MT: amoral, uncaring, disinterested, self absorbed, cold, materialistic party girl who seems to have the emotional depth of a raindrop and the moral compass of a streetwise Miami gangland thugette based on everything we have learned about her life and brief work history as an adult. MT has never really had a professional and simply hopped from one guy to the next during her life and the guys supported her and her lifestyle. In short, she seems like a washed up and aged party chick from Miami whose last ditch effort at some financial stability in her sorry life was to be the 'Queen of 4Jx'. MT had any number of opportunities to leave as she had no ties to CT other than Fd (Atty Colangelo clearly made just this point in Court this past week), yet MT stayed with Fd despite fighting about the divorce that would never end and IMO she stayed because Fd had convinced her that the money would allow them to live in leisure and party til the lights went out! In short, MT was IMO a 'character double' and indistinguishable from Fd which is why their relationship seemed to work.

Frankly given the character of MT as a longstanding mistress over many years, partner in Fd financial crimes via FORE as seen clearly in the 123 Hunter transaction, role in altering computer files/backup at FORE, documented pathological liar via 3 multi hour interviews with LE, choice to take the 5th in the Civil lawsuit to such basic questions as even stating her name, her trip to NY to get Farber family documents from Probate Court and who can forget the ride down Albany Avenue where she was actively participating and not simply chatting on the phone to Petu as originally described by her.

MOO

 

[afitzy]

Here's a crazy idea. turn off your phone.

EXACTLY!

What kind of clown spends time talking to the Press about how the Press just keep calling?

Even with the low bar established by Pattisville that we have been sadly subjected to now for months about talking to the Press, even they would have managed to say something to the Press even if it was untruthful!

MOO

 

[afitzy]

It would follow that if he ‘didn’t realize’ Grace Farm closed early, that he could have packed picnic food and ‘didn’t realize’ there were no picnics allowed. And by then the kids wanted the picnic food, and their favourite items he’d brought along for them, not dinner in a restaurant.
IMO

IMO the Grace Farm story (Grace Farms | Visit) put out by Fd wasn't credible as Fd had no doubt been to this location with the children previously and so knew the rules.

Fd could have perhaps taken the children to Mead Park Snack Bar (New Canaan Real Estate with Denise Gannalo) or restaurant downtown such as the Diner but Grace Farm as an option didn't make much sense other than it made it possible for him to argue to stay at 69/71 Welles IMO.

MOO

 

[enelram]

^^^^ Terrific post about the life and travails of MT.

Hey, Not all our Fl. "Thugettes" are as
bad as this one.

 

[afitzy]

Do we actually know it was a name day thing ?

Yes, in a prior thread this was researched and confirmed. Going from memory I think it was Constantine but there was also Theodore earlier in the month too.

Here is wiki info on dates for Name Days:

Name days in Greece - Wikipedia

 

[afitzy]

Were MT’s artistic pictures still up when AC moved in?

Given that all the Fd, recent "Stepford Wives" looked the same, perhaps AC thought the pictures were of her?

Can't you just imagine the Fd crazy story to 'welcome AC as the new Queen of 4Jx' by saying that the pictures were of her!

I can totally see Fd doing exactly this and AC totally buying it!

Can you imagine the rage of MT knowing that these 'art shots' graced the bedroom and other rooms of 4Jx for months after the new "Queen of 4Jx" had been installed and living there?????!?!?!?!?

It's as hilarious as it is pathetic IMO.

It's always so amusing when avowed relationship cheater such as Fd and MT somehow think that their partners will change due to their presence. Fd seemed to have the relationship constancy of a barnyard cat IMO!

I am still a bit incredulous that 'Sister' Rena Dulos would throw stones at JFd for allegedly tossing Fd out of her bedroom with his ongoing cheating and then somehow twisting her argument to say that it was this fact that somehow justified Fd losing his mind and eventually murdering his wife! I'm not even sure Pattisville would have tried to spin such pap and to do it in multiple publications in Greece speaks IMO to how these people had no clue as to who Fd was as a person. Even discounting for Google translation screw ups, it seems that the Greek Family might just be talking about someone entirely different and NOT Fd. Sad for them as they simply look to be ridiculous in light of the 3rd party evidence and Court Documents present about their brother IMO.

MOO

 

[enelram]

When will we get more info from LE on the
timelines of phones and GPS's for
MT and KM?
Has anyone done a timeline for MT on WS?

Also, no info on why FD went to Avon Storage
on 5/24 for 1/2 hour (to drop off body??) from 2:15-2:45 pm.

Also where was FD (and MT) morning 5/25 ?

Why was FD 3 hrs. late to meet LE in Stamford
on morning of 5/25 ??

Why did someone's phone go to Birch St. Bristol on 5/24 afternoon?

 

[afitzy]

“His last instructions were to make sure that his name was cleared and that he was exonerated,” Smith said.
Fight for Fotis Dulos’ assets — including family cat — begins in probate court

Wait...so does this mean they knew he was going to kill himself as a way out?
My opinion only.

I have to admit to being more than baffled about how Pattisville is now claiming to have the 'last words or last instructions' from their client Fd? Its one thing to ask the Court to continue the Criminal Case based on substitution of the Estate of Fd but another to make claim to last words. I would think that any such 'last words' or 'last instructions' would have to be made public in order to have any validity.

OR, are we talking about the typical Pattisville ploy of extrapolation from word salad? Did Atty. P. somehow extrapolate the Fd 'last instructions' from the 'suicide note' where Fd didn't even identify his attorney by name?

IMO the 15 mins which extended to 8 months for Pattisville has ended and it seems like it would just make sense to kick back whatever is in the Fd retainer to the estate (I know this will be tough but you guys can do it!) and simply move on down the road.

I think Atty. P. did too much research on Joan of Arc for his prior 4.20 motion and seems to want to go to the mat to 'redeem Fd'.

Just don't see it being possible. I also think its ironic that the retainer is being worked down on 'redeeming Fd' rather than providing the 'Albany explanation' to exonerate Fd. Entire situation IMO with Atty. P. makes no sense and continues to do nothing for Fd or the Greek Family either IMO.



Quotes from SA Article:

Smith said he expects all the criminal charges to be dismissed on March 3 during a proceeding in state Superior Court in Stamford. But he and lead defense attorney Norm Pattis have filed a request for court officials to continue the prosecution with the estate of Fotis Dulos as the defendant as a way of bringing the case to trial.
If the charges are dismissed, he and Pattis will consider filing wrongful death, malicious prosecution and legal malpractice lawsuits to exonerate their client, he said.

“His last instructions were to make sure that his name was cleared and that he was exonerated,” Smith said.

READ MORE: See what Michelle Troconis wants back from Fotis Dulos home

Smith and Pattis want a temporary administrator who won’t be “hostile” to their client’s interests to be appointed.


“We feel as though Mr. Dulos’ interests should be heard,” Smith said.

Dulos was cremated, according to his death certificate that Smith provided to the probate court. The New York Medical Examiner is waiting on toxicology results before determining the cause of death, Pattis said. His sister, Rena, had said the family planned to return him to his native Greece.

Dulos died with about $200,000 in a Fidelity 401K account and he had about $14,000 in a separate personal account, Hug told the court.

 

[afitzy]

I'm pretty sure MT knew of her for a long long time already. In fact her friend says AC has been there since July.

@kimch33kim, is this friend making the claim that AC was living at 4Jx in July or was she just staying in the area?

DO you think she could have been the person acting as 'go between' for Fd and MT or is it more likely that their conversations were doing online and simply caught by LE? Or, was Mama A the 'go between' between Fd and MT?

MOO

 

[Diddian]

More privacy. (Short vowel on your side of the pond). Modern vehicles are packed with data collectors.

Good point. Also, the blood would go in the truck of someone else - a guy who is a legal resident rather than a citizen, and who was an acquaintance of JFd. FD also asked that guy to tamper with evidence by removing and replacing the seats, rather than doing it himself, and when he dropped off the truck for detailing, FD did not give a name.

So, if things went as planned, IMO they've placed EE in the vicinity of JFd's disappearance that day, have placed blood evidence in his truck, have had him out asking around immediately after JFd's disappearance about replacing those blood-damaged seats, and have had someone who they may have hoped might be mistaken for EE having the truck detailed.

IMO, just in case police came asking questions to close to home, FD had EE planned as the guy to take the fall. It's also possible that if police came calling FD would lead them to JFd's remains by recommending LE search in a location tied in some way more to EE than to FD - a private place EE was known to frequent, perhaps for recreational purposes.

All MOO.

 

[afitzy]

When will we get more info from LE on the
timelines of phones and GPS's for
MT and KM?
Has anyone done a timeline for MT on WS?

Also, no info on why FD went to Avon Storage
on 5/24 for 1/2 hour (to drop off body??) from 2:15-2:45 pm.

Also where was FD (and MT) morning 5/25 ?

Why was FD 3 hrs. late to meet LE in Stamford
on morning of 5/25 ??

Why did someone's phone go to Birch St. Bristol on 5/24 afternoon?

Excellent questions @enelram!

MT timeline I suppose can be done in 'pencil' or 'erasable ink' only as LE simply seemed to take her statements regarding her alibi. Given MT prior history on not being able to tell the truth on much, my guess is LE took her statements and then worked to corroborate the info or not. MT based on my read still was unable to say whether she took and picked up her daughter from school and was unable to account for her time based on AWs for good portions of the day. Honestly, this level of word salad from MT hardly seems worth spending much time on and my concern for even posting a timeline that hasn't been proven by LE is that it could simply be perpetuating ongoing MT lies into the public narrative.

We here on WS were so badly burned by months of Atty. P. spouting 'Alibi Script' lies that I'm reluctant to simply doing the same thing over again with anything having to do with the MT timeline.

Also, the Fd meeting with NCPC on the morning of the 25th was at NCPD Headquarters in New Canaan (where they had video of Fd handing over his phone and his agitated atty Pytranker etc. that was mentioned in AW1 I believe).

MOO

 

[BellaVita]

I have to admit to being more than baffled about how Pattisville is now claiming to have the 'last words or last instructions' from their client Fd? Its one thing to ask the Court to continue the Criminal Case based on substitution of the Estate of Fd but another to make claim to last words. I would think that any such 'last words' or 'last instructions' would have to be made public in order to have any validity.

OR, are we talking about the typical Pattisville ploy of extrapolation from word salad? Did Atty. P. somehow extrapolate the Fd 'last instructions' from the 'suicide note' where Fd didn't even identify his attorney by name?

RSBM: BBM: YES. NP/KS are extrapolating the the words from the suicide note as "last instructions". As I pointed out in an above post, even I would regard that note as "last instructions". The suicide note is admissible in court. Regardless, this Joan of Arc motion is just grandstanding. FD said his atty(unnamed, lol) would provide the reason for the garbage run. FD last instruction there was to make NP look like a fool because FD knows there is no reason that will not inspire derision among the masses. As we are still waiting on the gag order motion, if the gag order stands, NP might use this as an excuse to follow the law. He may be hoping that that the gag order stands so he doesn't have to spout out something ridiculous. So, when he is asked for the garbage run explanation, he will just say he isn't allowed to talk about.
ETA: About the malpractice threat. It has to be directed at Pyetranker due to the phone being handed over. Is NP going to try to get evidence thrown out in a case that will be dismissed?