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New Canaan Police are looking for a missing woman Saturday, May 25.

Jennifer Dulos, 50, was reported missing around 7:30 p.m. Friday, May 24. A sliver alert has been issued.

New Canaan Police with the assistance of the Connecticut State Police initiated a search and an investigation both of which are ongoing as of 8:45 am. Saturday..

Anyone with information related to Dulos’s whereabouts should contact Sgt. Joseph Farenga at 203-505-1332.

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Bringing over from last thread:
The SW details a number of cell phone dump requests for key times in the investigation and I thought these were interesting as a starting point:

Day prior to JFd Murder:
5/23/19 9:53PM EST until 10:23 PM EST 4 Jefferson Crossing, Farmington, CT
5/23/19 10:10PM EST until 10:40PM EST 585 Middle Road, Farmington, CT



Day of JFd Murder:
5/24/19
7:01AM EST until 7:30am EST 4 Jefferson Crossing, Farmington
1:20PM EST until 1:50PM EST 80 MS, Farmington
2:15Pm EST until 2:45PM EST 190 Old Farms Road, Avon
2:30PM EST until 3:00PM EST 193 Birch Street, Bristol
7:11PM EST until 7:41PM EST 26 Crossroads Plaza, West Hartford



190 Old Farms Road, Avon
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193 Birch Street, Brisol (cannot find physical location - perhaps this is a reference to adjacent Pine Lake Park area? IDK)



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@enelram from prior thread:

MT is still in a WORLD OF HURT.
Now that we know KM has been offered a plea
deal in some of his criminal charges related to
his divorce but they're holding off for finaliziing
it til they work out the conspiracy charges in the
JFD case, this leaves MT in a very weak position.
My hunch is now that FD is gone, LE no longer is looking for info against him to bring a stronger case to trial.
So that leaves mT and KM hanging in the wind.
There's no love lost on MT due to her time-wasting and lack of co-operation and continued lies and alibi fabrication. She's very much in the hot seat now.
The state wants someone to be punished if found guilty now that FD is gone. From the AW it seems LE has a lot more on mT.
So if they pursue a case against her, they'd like
to use KM to strengthen their case.

Also IME, in some areas there's a great deal of effort made not to charge attorneys with serious crimes that would jeopardize their careers and ability to earn a living. It may not be right but it happens. Many times I've watched this play out.
So I believe the state is planning to cut a super deal w/ KM to testify against MT and hopefully send her up the creek.
So KM is in limbo right now. If he cleans up his alcohol habit, testifies against MT, he gets
time served and a slap on the wrist, and goes
on his merry way.
MT is left, all alone, to take the brunt of the charges and it sounds like LE thinks they can make the charges stick.
Things are not looking too good for MT right now.
She's in a bad, bad spot.
 
@BellaVita from prior thread:

@kay74, AMEN!

Yes, Fd made this choice of choosing MT and her daughter (or digging his heels in because he 'respectfully disagreed with Judge Heller about her decision to exclude MT and daughter from visits with the 5 Dulos children) but in doing so IMO he effectively weaponised his children against JFd who was then dealing with the 5 children on her own and had at least 1 child in severe emotional distress during this period such that CPS involvement was recommended by that childs' psychologist.

I'm writing this post after thinking about the extent of the distress endured by JFd and the 5 children for nearly 10 months as Fd chose to not comply with Judge Hellers ruling on removing MT and her daughter from 4Jx during visitation of the children. I'm struggling greatly to understand what kind of couple (I'm putting MT and Fd together here) makes such a choice to inflict pain and confusion on children? Answering my own question I would have to only use the words "monsters and insensitive human being focused only on themselves". The fact that MT could be party to such an action and did so being a mother herself IMO makes the situation absolutely impossible to understand what she was thinking about other than herself and preserving whatever relationship she had with Fd. Just giving thought to the possible role of MT in this decision simply is IMO enraging as I don't for a second believe that Fd made the decision in a vacuum without discussing it with MT. Nope, don't buy it. I also do wonder if MT very much fanned the flames of the situation by getting angry every time she and her daughter had to vacate 4Jx. I very much believe that MT was willing to pretty much do or say anything in order to maintain her title as "Queen of 4Jx" and if that included inflicting pain on JFd and the 5 Dulos children then it was no skin off her back at all IMO.

BUT, I can't but help taking that then entire scenario and putting yourself in the shoes of then 44 year old MT, a single mother of one child. What was she thinking? Did she care about just herself? Did she give any consideration to the impact of living amidst a contentious divorce with Fd might have on her daughter? Did she care about the impact on the 5 Dulos children of not seeing their father for 10 months? Or, was she totally in sync with Fd on the decision because it meant punishing JFd and inflicting pain on the 5 Dulos children (some of whom might have been too young to understand why they couldn't see their father).

It's hard not to believe IMO that MT supported the Fd decision fully to not see his children and if this is true it sheds quite a bit of light I think on her maturity, emotional development and who she is as a human being.

What kind of life and relationship or family life even could have been happening at 4Jx during this period of Fd not having contact with his children? What could the partner of Fd been thinking about regarding herself, Fd, her child and their relationship? Did either MT or Fd give any consideration to the impact of the Fd choice/decision on the 5 small Dulos children or JFd who was left to sweep up the pieces? What role did MT play in the Fd choice? Did MT issue an 'ultimatum' and said I hate being excluded and made to leave the house every time the children come and you have to chose between them and me? Did Fd even consult MT about his choice and it really had zero to do with the children but rather was about being told what to do by Judge Heller?

IMO none of what was playing out then in Family Court happened in a vacuum and to me it seems that MT might have also been selfishly supportive of the lack of visitation of the 5 Dulos children as it meant that Fd was present at 4Jx with her and not distracted during this period.

IDK but I keep coming back to this period of time when Fd didn't have access to his children and then I start to wonder about the partner of that person who also happened to be a mother and trying to figure out why the partner seemed to do nothing to push for resolution of the situation sooner (be it complying with the required therapy or parenting classes etc. or even agreeing with the terms of the Judge Heller order). I guess I cannot fathom any partner not caring about the impact of the decision on the 5 children and not be aware of the psychological damage it was inflicting on all parties involved (particularly if you mother was a psychologist and you yourself allegedly had a degree in psychology). I then wonder though if this period was the beginning of a well thought out plan to bring JFd to her knees by inflicting pain on the children which clearly were here life?

This period of time was crucial IMO in the divorce proceeding and MT was front and centre for all of it and seemed to have zero impact on resolving the situation. Was it because it suited her goals? Did she herself want to inflict pain and harm on JFd and the children? Is this just who she is and she frankly didn't care one way or another and left this in Fd hands? Any of these possibilities seem to say quite a lot about MT and her possible feeling of hate towards JFd and IMO also speak clearly to the issue of motive of MT in the plan to murder JFd.

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I don't think for one minute that FD ever did anything he didn't want to do just because MT told him. Responding specifically to this as these are my own thoughts before I even read your own:
I then wonder though if this period was the beginning of a well thought out plan to bring JFd to her knees by inflicting pain on the children which clearly were here life?

I 100% agree that this was a way to inflict pain on JD. I wonder how she felt knowing that FD did not care enough to regularly see his children while MT and her daughter were both living at 4JC. How do you explain the situation to the kids? What was FD telling them in the calls/visits where Greek was spoken? FD was the type of guy where he wants what he wants. He wanted MT there with the kids. He knew JD did not want that. MT probably wanted to be there too. The judge ruled against him. So, what is the definition of WIN-NING in this scenario? Stop seeing your kids, hurt them more just so FD can show everyone that he does whatever he wants to do.
 
@Chloe_ee from prior thread:

Ditto this, I think the Suburban was running at Waveney...hmm, whose car is this...or the car would have been stolen (altho in NC, doubtful, but you never know) then the next day, JD reported missing and FD/MT would have had nearly 24 hours to dispose of whatever materials, but they just didn't have the time and a new hastily thrown together disposal plan was hatched..

I think he thought he would get his kids Saturday as he pressed the nanny for; JD was well, huh, that's weird, she's missing, Oh well my kids will stay with me now...and he was just going to carry on as he was with MT/her daughter and now his 5 kids...

IMHO Albany Ave..the disposal of the bloody items..all an oh S t - what do you mean they reported her missing within 5 hours of her being 'gone.'

20-24 more hours would have bought FD/MT a lot more time - before FD picked up his kids (for good) Saturday for his 'visitation'.
 
@wickedstrong from prior thread:
This is also what I had thought of, KM would be the weaker link and would be the first person to try a plea deal. He knows exactly what to do, as a lawyer, to get him less time. MT must know this is looking very bad to her. If her previous attorney told her this is how it will go, and tried to get her to stop lying and tell her story, that could be why she fired him and chose a new lawyer. Her new lawyer should have spent time researching his clients case before coming out in court. He tried the "no English" angle on the court with limited success.

You are right, things are not looking too good for MT right now.
 
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@kay74, AMEN!

Yes, Fd made this choice of choosing MT and her daughter (or digging his heels in because he 'respectfully disagreed with Judge Heller about her decision to exclude MT and daughter from visits with the 5 Dulos children) but in doing so IMO he effectively weaponised his children against JFd who was then dealing with the 5 children on her own and had at least 1 child in severe emotional distress during this period such that CPS involvement was recommended by that childs' psychologist.

I'm writing this post after thinking about the extent of the distress endured by JFd and the 5 children for nearly 10 months as Fd chose to not comply with Judge Hellers ruling on removing MT and her daughter from 4Jx during visitation of the children. I'm struggling greatly to understand what kind of couple (I'm putting MT and Fd together here) makes such a choice to inflict pain and confusion on children? Answering my own question I would have to only use the words "monsters and insensitive human being focused only on themselves". The fact that MT could be party to such an action and did so being a mother herself IMO makes the situation absolutely impossible to understand what she was thinking about other than herself and preserving whatever relationship she had with Fd. Just giving thought to the possible role of MT in this decision simply is IMO enraging as I don't for a second believe that Fd made the decision in a vacuum without discussing it with MT. Nope, don't buy it. I also do wonder if MT very much fanned the flames of the situation by getting angry every time she and her daughter had to vacate 4Jx. I very much believe that MT was willing to pretty much do or say anything in order to maintain her title as "Queen of 4Jx" and if that included inflicting pain on JFd and the 5 Dulos children then it was no skin off her back at all IMO.

BUT, I can't but help taking that then entire scenario and putting yourself in the shoes of then 44 year old MT, a single mother of one child. What was she thinking? Did she care about just herself? Did she give any consideration to the impact of living amidst a contentious divorce with Fd might have on her daughter? Did she care about the impact on the 5 Dulos children of not seeing their father for 10 months? Or, was she totally in sync with Fd on the decision because it meant punishing JFd and inflicting pain on the 5 Dulos children (some of whom might have been too young to understand why they couldn't see their father).

It's hard not to believe IMO that MT supported the Fd decision fully to not see his children and if this is true it sheds quite a bit of light I think on her maturity, emotional development and who she is as a human being.

What kind of life and relationship or family life even could have been happening at 4Jx during this period of Fd not having contact with his children? What could the partner of Fd been thinking about regarding herself, Fd, her child and their relationship? Did either MT or Fd give any consideration to the impact of the Fd choice/decision on the 5 small Dulos children or JFd who was left to sweep up the pieces? What role did MT play in the Fd choice? Did MT issue an 'ultimatum' and said I hate being excluded and made to leave the house every time the children come and you have to chose between them and me? Did Fd even consult MT about his choice and it really had zero to do with the children but rather was about being told what to do by Judge Heller?

IMO none of what was playing out then in Family Court happened in a vacuum and to me it seems that MT might have also been selfishly supportive of the lack of visitation of the 5 Dulos children as it meant that Fd was present at 4Jx with her and not distracted during this period.

IDK but I keep coming back to this period of time when Fd didn't have access to his children and then I start to wonder about the partner of that person who also happened to be a mother and trying to figure out why the partner seemed to do nothing to push for resolution of the situation sooner (be it complying with the required therapy or parenting classes etc. or even agreeing with the terms of the Judge Heller order). I guess I cannot fathom any partner not caring about the impact of the decision on the 5 children and not be aware of the psychological damage it was inflicting on all parties involved (particularly if you mother was a psychologist and you yourself allegedly had a degree in psychology). I then wonder though if this period was the beginning of a well thought out plan to bring JFd to her knees by inflicting pain on the children which clearly were here life?

This period of time was crucial IMO in the divorce proceeding and MT was front and centre for all of it and seemed to have zero impact on resolving the situation. Was it because it suited her goals? Did she herself want to inflict pain and harm on JFd and the children? Is this just who she is and she frankly didn't care one way or another and left this in Fd hands? Any of these possibilities seem to say quite a lot about MT and her possible feeling of hate towards JFd and IMO also speak clearly to the issue of motive of MT in the plan to murder JFd.

MOO
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@spaz1959:

You analysis of the situation would be understandable if FD or MT were normal. Scio paths or psychopaths, very far off the normal reactions of man and woman. These two procreated, that's all they had in common. Not poster children as parents, or human beings. Your looking for something that redeems them. Your looking for a moment when they broke from social norms. These 2 are really unable to feel anything but their own wants, needs, joy, pain, etc. These two were draw to each other because of their common denominator. These two are drawn to others because of what they want.
 
@xtrain, thanks for finding this article:

Excerpt below:

Family Life Becomes a Prison
Their youngest child was born in the fall of 2010. As anyone who has kids can tell you, sleep, or lack of it, can be more powerful than love. Nights when a baby won’t stop crying, added burdens on attention and money, will, if anything, put even more pressure on an already troubled marriage. Jennifer hinted at this in an essay published on Patch on April 26, 2012, confessing that life was harder with her husband than without. “It was not like this when my husband Fotis was not here,” she wrote of a long night in which three of them—husband, wife, baby—shared a bed. “We had more room. I and she (and he, somewhere afar) slept better. But if Fotis is to come back (he leaves again today) next Tuesday, then we do have to get this dealt with. Which may mean her crying, but it’s just so heart wrenching. Then again, who can subsist on no sleep?”

At such times, family life will become a prison for a man like Fotis, a vain man, a man a little too concerned with his hair and clothes and the trimness of his body, one determined to look and feel as he did when he was young. For such a man, a relationship is less about loving than being loved, admired, showered in a certain kind of light, looked at a certain kind of way. Once you have kids—Fotis had five!—that sort of attention, which had powered the marriage, shifts from husband to children, where it glows like a lost paradise. “The best part of my night now, hands down, is when I give our baby … a bath and then her bottle, in my arms,” Jennifer wrote in March 2012. “She falls asleep, safe, up against my chest. I love it. It’s my peace and solace and quiet reward.”


What will a man like Fotis do in such a situation?

He will wander. He will look for what he has lost somewhere else, with someone else. And he will lie about it, then come to resent the person who makes him lie. None of this can be said for certain—in any work of nonfiction, the unknowable stands behind each sentence—but it can be inferred from the behavior of the participants. You deduce it the way an astronomer, seeing a characteristic wobble of a small planet, knows there must be a big planet tugging from just beyond the line of sight.

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The girlfriend: Michelle Troconis arrives at Stamford’s superior court in July. She has been charged with conspiracy to commit murder and has pleaded not guilty.
Fotis began to disappear for days, then weeks at a time. Now and then, when Jennifer challenged him, he’d fly into a rage.

A Threat to Leave
Some of these tantrums were just loud; others were loud and scary. One day, in June 2017, the nanny later told police, she had found Jennifer crying in the driveway. Jennifer said Fotis had tried to run her over with the car. To save herself, she’d had to jump out of the way. Later that summer, Fotis chased Jennifer through the house. She made it to her bedroom and got the door locked just in time. He stood there, pounding the door and screaming, but quieted down when he saw the nanny and one of the children watching. Jennifer did not call the police, said the nanny, because she was scared of what Fotis might do. He’d threatened to take the kids to Greece and never return.

On another occasion, when Jennifer did call the cops, Fotis explained his behavior by calling Jennifer a “bad mother” and saying that she “belongs in an asylum.”

In March 2017, Jennifer realized her husband was more than just running around and cheating on her. He’d gotten involved in a serious affair. The woman had actually done some work for the Fore Group. Think of the nerve! The person destroying the last remnants of the marriage had been inside Jennifer’s own house!

And who was this woman?

Jennifer realized that Fotis had gotten involved in a serious affair. The woman had actually done some work for the Fore Group. The person destroying the last remnants of the marriage had been inside Jennifer’s own house!
She was a good-time girl! A ski bum from South America! Her name was Michelle Troconis, but friends called her Michi. She had long dark hair and a wicked smile. She was in her early 40s when she met Fotis, with a teenage daughter from a liaison that preceded her failed marriage. She’d gotten a degree in psychology at the Central University of Venezuela in 1998, then worked in event planning and public relations at hotels around the world. The Ghantoot Racing & Polo Club, in Abu Dhabi. Cerro Castor, a resort on Mount Krund, in Tierra del Fuego. She had been the host of Snow Time, an ESPN show shot at ski resorts in South America. She had lived in Caracas, the United Arab Emirates, Miami.

She was a type—the jet-setter, the aging ingénue, the woman who always seems to find the best-looking, most unstable man in the room. It was Michelle Troconis’s arrival on the scene that set in motion the events that would lead to the disappearance of Jennifer Dulos. [BBM]
 
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The SW details a number of cell phone dump requests for key times in the investigation and I thought these were interesting as a starting point:

Day prior to JFd Murder:
5/23/19 9:53PM EST until 10:23 PM EST 4 Jefferson Crossing, Farmington, CT
5/23/19 10:10PM EST until 10:40PM EST 585 Middle Road, Farmington, CT

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Day of JFd Murder:
5/24/19
7:01AM EST until 7:30am EST 4 Jefferson Crossing, Farmington
1:20PM EST until 1:50PM EST 80 MS, Farmington
2:15Pm EST until 2:45PM EST 190 Old Farms Road, Avon
2:30PM EST until 3:00PM EST 193 Birch Street, Bristol
7:11PM EST until 7:41PM EST 26 Crossroads Plaza, West Hartford

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190 Old Farms Road, Avon
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The 26 Crossroads Plaza address is interesting because one would think it must be in reference to the Starbucks stop after they were finished with the Albany Avenue dumpster date night of stupidity but the only Starbucks in this area is across the street in the Udolf building/plaza by Crown Market. Crossroads Plaza is a large, strangely laid out retail center with several restaurants, businesses, a Big Y grocery story, post office, library, and senior center. It has multiple buildings with
an underground level is some parts, main level across the whole center, and upper levels in other parts. I find it interesting they were in this location for 30 minutes. Maybe dumping the last stuff in the various dumpsters throughout the center?? IDK...

In any case, it is the sort of center that would be pretty desolate, especially at this time on a Friday of a holiday weekend and in certain areas (the businesses around the back side close pretty early on a Friday (especially a Friday of a major holiday weekend) and/or the staircases leading down to the underground/upper levels.
 
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Then add psychopath to both descriptions of FD and MT.
Thank you for this comment, @spaz1959.

If it's so hard dealing with 5 kids, why didn't Jennifer flip out? She was with them almost all the time - he was not.

I must be the only one of this opinion, but this article does NOT see life from Jennifer's point of view at all.
  • Life was not a prison for him. That's absurd! He took off all the time. He went wherever he wanted, on the Farber money. "Fotis began to disappear for days, then weeks at a time." No. He had been gone for weeks from long before the 5th child!
  • Fd had affairs long before the 5th child.
  • Not everyone with 5 kids runs off and has affairs, let alone murdering the spouse.
  • Fd basically stalked Jennifer and then "ran into her" while he was still married.
  • Jennifer didn't try to trap him with the last baby, as implied.
  • Jennifer was the one trying to make a romantic relationship work even with the kids. He had already 'checked out' long before. He was always looking for someone else.
  • Fd is the one who wanted lots of kids, though she loved them all dearly.
  • Jennifer didn't want to move up to that area. He did. She was sad to move.
So many more details were only from the male point of view. Very odd.

The details of the area are excellent. But it's not a real estate ad!

This article normalizes his behavior in a most offensive way.
 
@sleuth66 from prior thread:
I think the key here is your quote “covered with CCTV”.
These SWs were early in the case, and LE was likely trying to correlate CCTV video pics of vehicles (Raptor in this case) with MT and FD cell pings (these SWs are for cell tower dumps, so they can see all the numbers that are pinging there during the 30 minute window).
Since subsequent AWs specify 7:41pm as the time MT and FD left the Albany area and finished up their dumping spree, this is likely the last CCTV timepoint LE had (at the time).
The SWs for cell towers dumps were probably data for LE to corroborate and show it was FD and MT that they have on camera and that their phones were in that area at that time.
It could just mean that MT and FD passed by there, it doesn’t necessarily mean that they stopped there or were there for 30 minutes. All the tower dump requests seem to be for a period of 30 minutes likely to have a reasonable window to sort through data and to deal with any timestamp errors or discrepancies in the cameras.
 
@Ruminations from prior thread:
Yes- I believe I read that the general policy for missing adults to be “missing” in CT is 48 hours. I think a full out search before that surprised Fotis.
I also agree that he never got outside of himself to even consider that FC was making decisions focused on the best interest if the children (please, i am not trying to discuss how successfully) and was unable to conceptualize that anything deeper than “she’s picking on me,” was going on. Therefore, without Jennifer to “pick on me,” he never dreamed anything would come between himself and the children. It wasn’t that he asked kids to lie for him, it was that Jennifer tattled. And for that matter, the lies would have been unnecessary if Jennifer lightened up about virtual polygamy. Gheesh. Poor little Fotis.

Still, I think he knew it would be a more intuitive theory that he killed or disappeared her than anyone else. But it would have to be proven. I still think he tried to leave random clues pointing this way and that.

I had always assumed he had not wanted the Albany Avenue stuff found. Now I am considering that he did. Maybe not in the trash bins. But around - a little shelter made from a weather tech liner by someone who could have used cash. Jennifer’s blood wiped off onto someone’s pants, tested when arrested for something else. All little dead ends.

It is not all that common for cars to get stolen impulsively because they are sitting there. However, it is pretty common that items get stolen from cars. I think Fotis could have hoped for someone to take the phone or anything from the car, and hopefully leave some Non-Fotis DNA behind.

I agree that he wanted her to just begone. But I think he knew he would be suspect number one, and he wanted a few other leads out there, too.

I don’t think he expected such a fight from Jennifer or so much blood. Then, he thought it was cleaned, and I don’t think he expected LE to realize how much violence had occurred in the garage so early in the investigation.
 
@Jmoose from prior thread:

Here is what I think...Fd drove that bus regarding the smackdown by Judge Heller. There is no way that he was going to let that judge tell him how he could see his children. And MT? Well, she went along with it gladly, for several reasons-she did not want to have to vacate “her” home, she didn’t want to deal with an additional 5 children, and she wanted Fd’s full and undivided attention lavished on her and her daughter. So she was cool with it.
 
@BellaVita from prior thread:
RSBM: I agree it's possible FD hoped the phone or car would be stolen. I don't see where FD thinking was sophisticated enough to say, oh, let me put a weather tec mat on Albany so I can blame a homeless guy. If he did think that, he's stupid. For one thing, I am sure JD Suburban had tracking. Can't remember if AW states that. How would a homeless guy in Hartford get to NC, 1.5 hours away, just happen to pick JD to victimize. Why would someone just take the mat and leave everything else. For sure though, the way things went down in the garage was very surprising and FD head was exploding trying to figure things out. MOO.
ETA: I am not at all discounting your idea about what FD may have thought about leaving the items on Albany. LE would have found the idea laughable that a homeless guy in Hartford would have traveled to WP and made it back to Albany with JD clothes, knife, pillow, mop, paper towels, garbage bags. All those items would have been checked for FD DNA anyway. MOO.
 
@waldojabba from prior thread:

The address 26 crossroads Plaza indicates to me that they were in the parking lot of the shopping center on the lower grade by the pet store and post office. There is an actual road that runs from Albany Ave ( rt 44) where the parking lot is that runs over to Starkel Rd. My guess is they were in the car on the
phone. They probably got starbucks across the street (very limited parking) maybe MT ran in and then they pulled across the street into this parking lot. It is not very active at this time in the evening. I think they spoke to KM also sometime that evening. Renbrook is just west on rt 44 and this area is about 15 from FT home.
 
@AbbyG said:
So sad for the children at the heart of this tragedy. FD was such a coward. How dare he do this to them. I suppose a man willing to take away their children's mother doesn't put them first. I am sure he believed he loved them, and loved them as much as he was able through his toxic and malignant narcissism.
Fotis Dulos' children visited him in hospital before his death: Family statement

@BellaVita said:
Loving your children "as much as you are able" is poor consolation to the children. The children were possessions, used as pawns. Malignant N has no idea what love is. MOO. IME.
 
@alkalai13 from prior thread:

Why do you think the Avon self storage is on the list?

I can't find any record of 193 Birch either. The numbers hop from 197 to 191. Why do you think they included this address as well?
 
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