Still Missing CT - Jennifer Dulos, 50, New Canaan, 24 May 2019 *ARRESTS* #60

[Jmoose]

Maybe someone was there to help. Also, I do believe FD would have had no problem lifting JF’s body.

Same here-I think he could, and did, lift her body by himself.

 

[Megnut]

Moreover, why would KM be at a fake meeting at 4 JC? Neighbor catch his vehicle arriving before 8 and leaving at some point? How deep did they deepfake that alibi? Did KM access a backdoor and another vehicle (namely the older Suburban)? Did the office alibi really require the meat-and-greet rendezvous? Was it just to get KM's phone? I don't think so. I think those two were in deep. Knee deep in plans for disappearing both wives. I think that meat up was a mental walk thru. A plan with many moving parts.

And then it went sideways. Because JFd fought back and fought back hard. She all but wrote Fotis' name on the garage floor with her own blood.

And insodoing saved her children.

JMO

 

[Baby baby Jane]

FWIW I don't think for a second that JFd was transferred from her Suburban to the Tacoma. Too public a thoroughfare. Maybe he carried a floor liner, laid that in the passenger seat and that's what transferred her blood.

I think when he got to Waveny, he had already handed off the bulk of evidence.

I go back to his original plan, whatever it was. If he had abducted JFd without bloodshed, he was hardly going to walk her from her Suburban to the Tacoma. I think there was always a transfer station. I peg KM for it.

Jmo

Wherever the location-
Waterski or wakeboard duffel bag, wheels & straps. More than big enough.

 

[Cloudydiamond]

Is there a list of witnesses available? My googling didn't help me.

I don't think it's public. There were a couple MSM articles that listed who may be called. Will try to find it.

 

[afitzy]

Same here-I think he could, and did, lift her body by himself.

We still have no idea how KM banged his head so badly and allegedly I think damaged his cell phone. Anyone who has used one of those Thule rooftop racks I think can attest to jammed fingers and bashed heads and frayed temper! That rack was on top of the Suburban (roughly 77" tall and 8" off the ground) and if it were used for what most believe it was used for then you have a pretty challenging task at hand for short FD and medium height KM.

MOO

 

[jennyjenny]

I know this info is out there on the world wide web, but it is inaccurate. She was 5'8" and 120 lbs per her missing poster:

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The Case of the Disappearance of New Canaan Mom Jennifer Dulos

They were charged with tampering with or fabricating physical evidence and hindering prosecution in the first degree and have pleaded not guilty. Fotis Dulos was later charged with murder, felony murder and kidnapping in the first-degree. He was released on bond and placed under house arrest...

www.nbcconnecticut.com

Tall and slim ... and a true natural beauty!!

 

[afitzy]

I don't think it's public. There were a couple MSM articles that listed who may be called. Will try to find it.

It was just posted a few pages back. SA article.

 

[marcom]

I see this to a certain extent but am just concerned that the TP commentary is confusing, part of a larger public disinformation campaign in conjunction with the social media commentary of MT and the Troconis crew and is a harmful distraction to the jury and is putting justice in this case at risk. The 'idiot routine' is a deliberate ploy of manipulation and is far from benign imo as it contains SO much disinformation.

Further the quality of the TP arguments imo aren't usually solid, credible or provable, such as the MT sleeping in her daughter argument or what she was doing on Albany. Disinformation is false information which is deliberately intended to mislead—intentionally misstating the facts and sadly I think TP does this consistently. We saw this with the factually incorrect statement about 'junk science' but that was not strikes by Judge R. We saw this with the discredited Herman report that Judge R allowed to be bandied about for over 2 weeks without putting a stake through it as it could never be evidence and frankly should never have been discussed or brought up in court imo.

The MT alibi starting with the sleeping in her daughters room I believe will become fine swiss cheese as we move into the next phase of the trial after the Tacoma Red Truck and its role in the murder is presented by the State. IMO MT and FD moved in tandem every step of the way in the murder, including the presentation of the non alibi script in different versions by MT. The non alibi scripts of MT (and FD) AND WHAT THEY EXCLUDE will I believe tell the story of her complicity with FD and KM in the murder of JF as the first lie about why the scripts were done in the first place is exposed (Atty Pyetranker as one of the 'bad boys' imo the CT Bar I believe even went to the stand in pretrial period on this topic - gotta love attorneys who practice what they preach to their clients about lying on the stand as this is precisely what he schooled FD to do in Family Court imo).

Its all quite exhausting to watch MT and FD as every time a hole emerges in their web of lies then they come up with a new lie and I'm sure we will see a non stop "WHOPPER EXPRESS" of new such lies in the Defence presentation which started it with the MT sleeping in her daughters room which imo absolutely cannot be proven.

I do have faith that the jury will see that the MT intention was never to assist finding someone that she hated and was greatly jealous of and who she blamed for '2 years of hell' in CT. Watching clips of certain segments of the MT LE Interviews has convinced me that at NO TIME did MT care about assisting LE to find JF and each time the conversation was brought back to JF, MT got tense, defensive and angry as she was no longer on her not alibi script long rambling road testimony. Nope, MT is all about MT and all the time.

What's interesting too I think in rewatching some of the MT LE Testimony is always what she won't talk about or how she pivots away from things quickly in a very clumsy way when LE hits on something that is sensitive to her. These are the key moments I hope the Jury sees. The more I watch the LE Testimony clips the more I'm convinced that what happened to JF at the hands of FD and MT was so horrific that MT could not ever accept a deal, even if the States Atty came to a meeting and offered it to her. The reason MT couldn't assist or take a deal as the situation with the murder was brutally violent and MT knew that and couldn't speak of it because MT never seems to be accountable for any of her choices in life it seems. MT simply did what she has done her entire life which was to call Mama Troconis and Papi to save her and so they seem to have coughed up alot of cash to keep their daughter out of jail now for 4 years which was allowed imo courtesy of the inept Judiciary in the State of Corrupticut. I hope the jury is smarter than the Judiciary has been in this sorry case!

So, MT took the stand with LE and the State, "catch me if you can" as I knew nothing and did nothing. Right. I think the State is rising to this challenge issued by MT and the mountain of evidence is building. Its sad, as had MT had courage to explain her role a deal might have allowed her time to enjoy some skiing in retirement.

But, my guess is that MT doesn't have courage and never takes personal responsibility for anything in her life. But, MT aside what I find absolutely evil was first MT bringing her then 10/11 year old daughter to Farmington, exposing her daughter to the HELL of living with someone going through a horrific divorce and not removing her daughter from the situation either to her father full time or boarding school once the situation with divorce and FD melting down escalated so she wasn't scared by the situation. What kind of loving or caring mother would expose a young child to this experience and only for their own personal greed? MT did and she cared as little for her daughter as she did for the Dulos children and JF. The only words to describe such a person are unprintable on WS....but monster of a human being comes close.

Integrity in a person and similar to Trust I think in that it is a fragile and precious thing and once gone simply evaporates! I don't personally believe there is any integrity in MT as there is nothing she has done really in her life and certainly in the conduct of her affair with FD to suggest it exists. Maybe I'm wrong? IDK. Perhaps at the end of this trial presentation the jury will have to opine not only on what MT did but who she is as a person and is she trustworthy??

MOO

A word to describe MT? How about "bruja?" Ha.

 

[Megnut]

And we're live, Day 15

 

[Megnut]

Judge: before we begin, are there any matters....

JS: if I could, briefly....

 

[Alkali13]

Once again, JS is complaining that the state is making him do work.

 

[Megnut]

JS is worried that a litany of witnesses testifying to seeing or finding anything, just so concerned for the jury. Finds it immaterial.

Court sees the necessity of this approach, goes to the thoroughness of the investigation.

 

[Megnut]

JS is arguing that these negative findings are dragging out this trial. He'd like the findings condensed in the interest of expediency. Again just worried about the jury having to hear all this.

 

[Diddian]

Apparently JAS does not "get" that absence of any prints or DNA on things that would obviously have had hands on them means someone was wearing gloves (i.e., concealment).

 

[Megnut]

Judge: if the State ways to use 4 quarter notes per bar.... the court is not going to restrict the State's style.

Court would encourage counsel to confer, to combine chains of evidences.

State and Defense reach agreement inre the white shirt find in the trash, that it had nothing to do with this crime, stipulated that no further testing/testimony would be required.

 

[Megnut]

Atty McGuinness raises the photo of the ring of keys. The keys were tested, no profile developed.

McGuinness is asking whether it was the photo or the keys themselves which the Court's ruling sustained. Judge says that witness have no reason for testing the keys (all the other items had bloodlike staining) and therefore, the Judge rules, then and now, the keys are out.

Short delay which the State drafts the stipulation.

 

[Megnut]

[JS doesn't seem to want to burden the jury with evidence.]

 

[nodamselindistress]

JS is arguing that these negative findings are dragging out this trial. He'd like the findings condensed in the interest of expediency. Again just worried about the jury having to hear all this.

Oh the irony!

 

[nodamselindistress]

[JS doesn't seem to want to burden the jury with evidence.]

No, he just wants to show us a map of CT and oh look! Over there you can see Massachusetts!

 

[Knitty]

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