Daniel Snodgrass

[debs]

He doesn't have to be the one who went into the mobile home to get Haleigh, if Jr.'s recollections are correct. We still don't know who was in that mobile home that evening/night. We still don't know if the kids were left alone. We don't know whether Misty took the kids with her to some party and perhaps left them in a vehicle, unsupervised.

The whole case hinges on whereabout and timelines.
What time did Ron C. leave for work, and was Haleigh seen after that?
Who came and went in the hours after he went to work? How long did they stay?
Where was Misty after Ron went to work? What timeline can be established for her whereabouts?
When, really, did Misty know that she didn't know Haleigh's whereabouts?

In essence, this is why Misty's lying is so troubling. If she isn't telling the truth about any aspect of that day, the whole reconstruction of Haleigh's disappearance is a problem.

Daniel S. got rid of his car and boat just after Haleigh's disappearance. In the end, we have to figure out why children "disappear" and how that applies to Haleigh's case. Kids disappear because they are chronically abused and a parent or other "caretaker" goes too far and then hides the body (Robert Manwill, Nicole Bryner); they disappear because a parent commits deliberate, premeditated murder (Casey Anthony may belong to this group, Susan Smith); they disappear because a pedophile enters the home or property and takes them (Polly Klaas, the Groenes). A less common scenario is that a child dies because of terrible judgment and neglect on the part of the "caretaker" and the parents cover that up (right now I can't think of an example). Or--a combination of the above: a negligent caretaker allows access to a pedophile or someone who works with him.

Do we have a link that verifies that Snodgrass has been cleared? Or at least cleared of entering the mobile home, based on his ankle monitor?

This case has the parent of the missing child continuing, with his family's help, to cover up for the primary caregiver for the child that went missing, the day/night she disappeared. That's an example of the bolded statement above.

 

[pittsburghgirl]

This case has the parent of the missing child continuing, with his family's help, to cover up for the primary caregiver for the child that went missing, the day/night she disappeared. That's an example of the bolded statement above.

Debs, I agree. Bet that surprised you. Up until the drug arrests, I could buy, somewhat, the "keep your enemies closer rationale" from Ron Cummings. Now I don't know. I don't think we can lump his family in the "covering up" category, though, since I think most families support their children publicly and we have no idea what either Ron or Misty have said to their parents. Certainly, it seems plausible that at least some of the jailed and otherwise harassed Croslins have no idea what Misty knows or doesn't know--or they'd be talking. I wouldn't expect Ron's mother or GGS to make public statement against him but I also think it's unlikely that, if he's involved, he's told his mother what he did. It may also be that Ron and Misty have been long involved in the drug trade, and Ron is so corrupted by drug use and the easy money (even though his dealing appears relatively small potatoes) that he's in denial about Misty. I wish people would take into account that addicts and people with major drug abuse issues often do things that leave the rest of us shocked and horrified. It seems as likely to me that he would deny--in the psychological sense--the extent of Misty's involvement as it does that he was involved in the disappearance of his daughter. But right now, I don't know.

What I do know, given the facts as the have been represented in the media, that there is absolutely a possibility that a sexual predator kidnapped Haleigh, because we have no idea where Misty was for the entire timeline of the event, we have no idea who was in that mobile home at any given time, and we really have no accurate "last seen" time for Haleigh because we KNOW Misty is lying--but we don't know WHAT she is lying about. And that could include the famous "two people will get hurt" comment. But make no mistake, someone other than Ron and Misty knows enough about her disappearance to blow the lid off the case. It's just a matter of when that person or persons get motivated to talk.

 

[Kimster]

This interesting thread is beginning to derail. Stay on the topic of discussing whether DS could be a factor in Haleigh's disappearance and use the theory thread when you want to discuss theories.

Thanks!

 

[pittsburghgirl]

What I do know, given the facts as the have been represented in the media, that there is absolutely a possibility that a sexual predator kidnapped Haleigh, because we have no idea where Misty was for the entire timeline of the event, we have no idea who was in that mobile home at any given time, and we really have no accurate "last seen" time for Haleigh because we KNOW Misty is lying--but we don't know WHAT she is lying about.

Sorry, Kimster, for my part is the partial derailment. Let me quote the salient point above to get us back on tract. The fact that DS has an ankle bracelet in not way excludes him because we don't KNOW where Haleigh was or who was in the mobile home who might have had the opportunity to abduct her from there. If LE has eliminated a guy who knows Misty Croslin, with a record of preying on female children, and who sold his vehicle and boat immediately after her disappearance, that's a headscratcher.

 

[Emeralgem]

Sorry, Kimster, for my part is the partial derailment. Let me quote the salient point above to get us back on tract. The fact that DS has an ankle bracelet in not way excludes him because we don't KNOW where Haleigh was or who was in the mobile home who might have had the opportunity to abduct her from there. If LE has eliminated a guy who knows Misty Croslin, with a record of preying on female children, and who sold his vehicle and boat immediately after her disappearance, that's a headscratcher.

DS isn't the ONLY person who sold a vehicle right after Haleigh disappeared off the face of this earth...JMO

 

[doobiedoo52]

I had listened to this interview before, but just listened again 3 times. First off, I want to clarify that the property they are talking about is not DS' address--it is MS' moms. She states 104 at the beginning of the interview--the street name is not the same as Snodgrass--a quick whitepages.com search will give you the rest. That is where the 3 sheds in question were at. She also states that the week before Feb 20 is the only time she knew of that DS came over to her mom's place instead of mom going over there. So the time frame is very close. If you listen closely at the end she NEVER says there were pictures of MC. Cobra asks about MC. She says she doesn't know her but then goes on to say that Det. Cone said there were hundreds of pix of girls and that they were rather risque--he ran an escort service. But if you don't listen closely you might think they were of MC because of Cobra's question.

The freaky thing was her mom saying the stuff about body parts and girls. She woke from a coma and said that stuff so whether delusional or not, we don't know. But obviously, Cobra & MS went to the sheds after this interview and the part 2 tapes have never been released. I would conclude that nothing was found since this happened a year ago and we've heard no more. I doubt that any evidence could have been found and held onto that long while letting a murderer out on the streets. JMO

 

[4Jacy]

I read on one thread that D. Snodgrass ran an escort service. Do we know the "ladies" that worked for him. Did TN know him? tia

 

[LFlorida]

<snipped by LF>
What I do know, given the facts as the have been represented in the media, that there is absolutely a possibility that a sexual predator kidnapped Haleigh, because we have no idea where Misty was for the entire timeline of the event, we have no idea who was in that mobile home at any given time, and we really have no accurate "last seen" time for Haleigh because we KNOW Misty is lying--but we don't know WHAT she is lying about. And that could include the famous "two people will get hurt" comment. But make no mistake, someone other than Ron and Misty knows enough about her disappearance to blow the lid off the case. It's just a matter of when that person or persons get motivated to talk.

JMO & mine counts for a lot in this regard [I think] -

I am a life-long resident of Putnam County. I am the parent of children near Haleigh's age.

There isn't a snowball's chance in Hades that I can believe that PCSO has even the slightest suspicion that this was done by some crazed, sexual predator/child murderer. Not once have they indicated to us, the parents of Putnam County, that this is anyone who might be a danger to our children.

[Warning: re-run of one of my sermons ahead]

This is a small community. Law enforcement officers in this county have children and grandchildren, husbands, and wives. Many of us go to church together, belong to the same civic groups, have personal friendships and professional relationships with one another. Our children attend school, church, scouts together, and play recreational sports with one another - with their parents in attendance.

No way would they not warn us if there was some crazed child snatcher/killer on the loose in Putnam County. The fact that they have not warned us is, in and of itself, is a big fat clue.

JMO

 

[ladonna]

Snodgrass was due in court yesterday. Does anyone know what happened?

 

[twall]

Snodgrass was due in court yesterday. Does anyone know what happened?

Snodgrass did not have a court date, Cobra did on 3/22.
Snodgrass next appearance is 4/13.
Here is the link if you want to look them up:

http://www.putnam-fl.com/clk_apps/ext_app_sec/public_menu.php

 

[Elphaba]

Cobra pleads out to a lesser charge of battery, in regards of Snodgrass... given 1 year probation with restrictions that not only deal with Snodgrass, but Haleigh's case, as well: Cobra is not to have any contact with Snodgrass while on probation... and during that year he is not allowed to play PI and bondsman in the 7th Judicial Circuit, meaning he is barred from being involved in Haleigh's case. (as well as any other case in that area)


http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=153788&catid=3

 

[LFlorida]

Per the PDN, referring to a report filed by Dep. Richard Griffin:

"Snodgrass was questioned for an hour by Staubs while being driven around the Satsuma area with a cameraman, Martin Reed, riding along before Snodgrass was taken back home, Griffin said."

I thought Marty Reed was the guy at Snod's house that day?

 

[elle1919]

Cobra pleads out to a lesser charge of battery, in regards of Snodgrass... given 1 year probation with restrictions that not only deal with Snodgrass, but Haleigh's case, as well: Cobra is not to have any contact with Snodgrass while on probation... and during that year he is not allowed to play PI and bondsman in the 7th Judicial Circuit, meaning he is barred from being involved in Haleigh's case. (as well as any other case in that area)


http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=153788&catid=3

Thank you for posting this I knew some members who were interested in the outcome of this case. In the article it states that he is no longer allowed to bounty hunt or investigate in 7th Judicial Circuit, I wonder what that means as far as the information that he has already collected on Haleigh's case. I wonder how he will be able to just walk away.

 

[Kimster]

"Our contacts at the Putnam County courthouse Wednesday tell us a much slimmed down William Staubs, aka Cobra, accepted the plea offer, which is tantamount to an admission of guilt, rather than risk a prison term had he gone to trial on felony false imprisonment charges brought by a local man, Daniel Snodgrass, a former limousine driver accused of committing capital sexual battery with two underage girls" <snipped, more at link>

http://www.artharris.com/2010/03/24...o-beatdown-banned-from-haleigh-cummings-case/

 

[Elphaba]

Thank you for posting this I knew some members who were interested in the outcome of this case. In the article it states that he is no longer allowed to bounty hunt or investigate in 7th Judicial Circuit, I wonder what that means as far as the information that he has already collected on Haleigh's case. I wonder how he will be able to just walk away.

If he values getting back his ability to work in his profession, he will walk away and move on. BUT, I was under the impression that he had long walked away from it due to PTSS claims, on top of a million and one different conspiracy theories he put out there... and the only thing he was putting out there as of late, was old info he had from the early days. Now, if he still has any info gathered from before he left the area, that he feels is important, and he truly cares about Haleigh, he will hand it over to his lawyer so it can be given to LE.

 

[elle1919]

If he values getting back his ability to work in his profession, he will walk away and move on. BUT, I was under the impression that he had long walked away from it due to PTSS claims, on top of a million and one different conspiracy theories he put out there... and the only thing he was putting out there as of late, was old info he had from the early days. Now, if he still has any info gathered from before he left the area, that he feels is important, and he truly cares about Haleigh, he will hand it over to his lawyer so it can be given to LE.

Yes, I think he probably has done that and who knows if there was anything of value there at all.

Maybe to assist in their Snodgrass investigation but only time will tell if it benefits the investigation into Haleigh's disappearance.

 

[Elphaba]

http://www.palatkadailynews.com/articles/2010/03/25/news/news01.txt

Well, I guess the free PI service Cobra offered Snodgrass after the incident is out of the question for the next year. (Seriously, coddling a suspected sex offender and offering him free services... WTH?!?!?)

 

[twall]

Per the PDN, referring to a report filed by Dep. Richard Griffin:

"Snodgrass was questioned for an hour by Staubs while being driven around the Satsuma area with a cameraman, Martin Reed, riding along before Snodgrass was taken back home, Griffin said."

I thought Marty Reed was the guy at Snod's house that day?

You are correct, AH was the cameraman. ETA-Marty is the friend of DS.
The article also says Snodgrass' first name is William.

Lord, please help the reporters find their way to factual information in this case. :angel:

 

[twall]

http://www.palatkadailynews.com/articles/2010/03/25/news/news01.txt

Well, I guess the free PI service Cobra offered Snodgrass after the incident is out of the question for the next year. (Seriously, coddling a suspected sex offender and offering him free services... WTH?!?!?)

The article also states Cobra asked Snodgrass for a hug after he took him home. I am going to vomit. :sick:

 

[LFlorida]

You are correct, AH was the cameraman. ETA-Marty is the friend of DS.
The article also says Snodgrass' first name is William.

Lord, please help the reporters find their way to factual information in this case. :angel:

Is there a link to an incident report posted anywhere? Not doubting you at all twall. I'm just curious & would like to read it.

It seems like there was a former Miami-area videographer helping Cobra and Tank in their attempt to get a TV series.

editorial note - I take strong offense re: Mr. St claiming PTSD from this case. It's an insult to combat veterans, the families of Haleigh, and legit LE everywhere.