DC - Car rams barricade at U.S. Capitol, 1 officer dead, driver killed, 2 April 2021

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Were any weapons or bombs found in his car?

How did this guy think or plan to cause terror with only the car he was driving and the knife he was carrying? He was one person and surely knew he would encounter a minimum of two guards at most posts.

Is the only way to stop a suspect is shooting to kill? This leaves us with no possibility of getting answers for his actions or discovering if he is part of a group.

From his writing on Facebook, he seemed discouraged and depressed, was this a suicide act?

When a man just attempted to kill you by ramming you with a car, severely injuring you and fatally wounding the other officer, he jumps out and runs at you with a knife- absolutely YES! The ONLY thing to do is shoot to kill. Why on earth would a person shoot to wound anyone who is lunging towards them to finish the job with a knife? If you just wound him you’re dead and the crazed murderer is capable of killing other innocent bystanders.
MOO
 
When a man just attempted to kill you by ramming you with a car, severely injuring you and fatally wounding the other officer, he jumps out and runs at you with a knife- absolutely YES! The ONLY thing to do is shoot to kill. Why on earth would a person shoot to wound anyone who is lunging towards them to finish the job with a knife? If you just wound him you’re dead and the crazed murderer is capable of killing other innocent bystanders.
MOO

Ita!

They had already witnessed what he was capable of doing, and from what I've read he had a very large knife almost like a machete which can easily kill someone or even decapitate them.

I'm trying to recall, but didnt a terrorist slash, and stab 11 victims at a Mall a few years back before he was stopped by a legally armed citizen. I believe it was at an Ohio Mall iirc.

Jmho
 
I truly do not understand if someone wants to commit suicide suicide why they have to murder innocent people who have done nothing to them.

My husband nephew committed suicide when he was 24, but he didn't go on a rampage, and harm others.

What did CP Evan's ever do to this killer? Absolutely nothing just like the other officer he tried to murder did nothing to him.

He could have quietly committed suicide if that was his choice like many others have done. But he didn't. He chose to harm innocent others, and create grief, and trauma which will last forever for the living victim, and the devastated two families.

If he was capable of committing murder, which he was.. he darn sure could have found a way to kill himself, and not harm anyone else.

The way he did it reeks of narcissism. Imo.

Jmho

IF he was schizophrenic or suffering from a schizoaffective disorder and was in the midst of a psychotic break, his thought process would have been totally whacked out. The mind during a psychotic break is a very frightening thing. Some parts are still working as they normally would by reacting to the signals the broken parts are sending. A person suffering psychosis reacts to imagined stimuli and thoughts. Only part of the brain, ie the parts that tell us how to drive or talk, is reacting to reality. It isn’t always easy to tell when a person is psychotic. You might see enough strange behavior to make you wonder if a person is suffering from psychosis, but there will often be enough other things that make you question if perhaps the person is just have an off day. Medical professionals don’t always recognize psychosis when they see it. Our brains work hard to make us appear “normal” on the outside when all heck is going on inside. We can’t know what his brain was telling him when he committed that terrible act but I don’t think it was simply telling him to commit suicide by taking a couple of innocent lives with him.
 
I truly do not understand if someone wants to commit suicide suicide why they have to murder innocent people who have done nothing to them.

My husband nephew committed suicide when he was 24, but he didn't go on a rampage, and harm others.

What did CP Evan's ever do to this killer? Absolutely nothing just like the other officer he tried to murder did nothing to him.

He could have quietly committed suicide if that was his choice like many others have done. But he didn't. He chose to harm innocent others, and create grief, and trauma which will last forever for the living victim, and the devastated two families.

If he was capable of committing murder, which he was.. he darn sure could have found a way to kill himself, and not harm anyone else.

The way he did it reeks of narcissism. Imo.

IF he was schizophrenic or suffering from a schizoaffective disorder and was in the midst of a psychotic break, his thought process would have been totally whacked out. The mind during a psychotic break is a very frightening thing. Some parts are still working as they normally would by reacting to the signals the broken parts are sending. A person suffering psychosis reacts to imagined stimuli and thoughts. Only part of the brain, ie the parts that tell us how to drive or talk, is reacting to reality. It isn’t always easy to tell when a person is psychotic. You might see enough strange behavior to make you wonder if a person is suffering from psychosis, but there will often be enough other things that make you question if perhaps the person is just have an off day. Medical professionals don’t always recognize psychosis when they see it. Our brains work hard to make us appear “normal” on the outside when all heck is going on inside. We can’t know what his brain was telling him when he committed that terrible act but I don’t think it was simply telling him to commit suicide by taking a couple of innocent lives with him.

Thank you, @Grammar, for such a clear and compassionate explanation of psychosis. My cousin was schizophrenic from his mid-20s to his mid-70s when he died recently. He had a few psychotic episodes over the years, but meds kept him relatively functional. If NG was schizophrenic, as seems likely from his symptoms, it doesn’t appear that he had been diagnosed or treated yet.

As most everyone knows, not everyone who commits suicide is in the throes of a psychotic episode. Most people “quietly commit suicide” without harming others, because they are severely depressed but not psychotic. For them, their pain is just too great to continue living. And plenty who are psychotic and commit suicide may also do it privately. NG, if psychotic, may not even have been suicidal. We don’t know. But as you put it so well in layman’s terms, “his thought process would have been totally whacked out.” If NG was psychotic, which his symptoms point to, he was not a terrorist. Following Farrakhan appeared to be part of his religiosity that developed as part of or in tandem with his illness, according to reports. If he was psychotic, he was a very sick man who did a terrible thing in the midst of his torment, but was not terrorism. That is a far cry from those who attacked the Capitol on January 6 for a particular and united reason IMO, but no less tragic for the victims.
JMO
 
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Thank you, @Grammar, for such a clear and compassionate explanation of psychosis. My cousin was schizophrenic from his mid-20s to his mid-70s when he died recently. He had a few psychotic episodes over the years, but meds kept him relatively functional. If NG was schizophrenic, as seems likely from his symptoms, it doesn’t appear that he had been diagnosed or treated yet.

As most everyone knows, not everyone who commits suicide is in the throes of a psychotic episode. Most people “quietly commit suicide” without harming others, because they are severely depressed but not psychotic. For them, their pain is just too great to continue living. And plenty who are psychotic and commit suicide may also do it privately. NG, if psychotic, may not even have been suicidal. We don’t know. But as you put it so well in layman’s terms, “his thought process would have been totally whacked out.” If NG was psychotic, which his symptoms point to, he was not a terrorist. Following Farrakhan appeared to be part of his religiosity that developed as part of or in tandem with his illness, according to reports. If he was psychotic, he was a very sick man who did a terrible thing in the midst of his torment, but was not terrorism. That is a far cry from those who attacked the Capitol on January 6 for a particular and united reason IMO, but no less tragic for the victims.
JMO
Another empathatic post. The paranoia and fear overtakes them. It really is like a nightmare. I had a brother in law, who would literally be shaking and crying in fear at his delusions.
 
Another empathatic post. The paranoia and fear overtakes them. It really is like a nightmare. I had a brother in law, who would literally be shaking and crying in fear at his delusions.

How awful for him and his loved ones! It’s hard to imagine if you haven’t actually seen it happen, and I haven’t. But I know people (personally and online) who have schizophrenic family members, including a WS member who was well known on the Arias case and whose blog I follow. Her experience with her brother (in his 50’s) illustrates how hard it is to get treatment and keep him on his medication (paid social worker in his program dropping the ball). He is not the same lovely man when this happens.

It’s so easy to say about someone scornfully “he went off his meds” when in reality they (were) dropped through the cracks or did not have tenacious family advocating for them. I digress, since we don’t know NG’s mental health status, but it appears to me he was untreated if he was ill. Such a shame for anyone, but NG had a promising future. Now neither he nor Officer Evans have a future.
JMO
 
IF he was schizophrenic or suffering from a schizoaffective disorder and was in the midst of a psychotic break, his thought process would have been totally whacked out. The mind during a psychotic break is a very frightening thing. Some parts are still working as they normally would by reacting to the signals the broken parts are sending. A person suffering psychosis reacts to imagined stimuli and thoughts. Only part of the brain, ie the parts that tell us how to drive or talk, is reacting to reality. It isn’t always easy to tell when a person is psychotic. You might see enough strange behavior to make you wonder if a person is suffering from psychosis, but there will often be enough other things that make you question if perhaps the person is just have an off day. Medical professionals don’t always recognize psychosis when they see it. Our brains work hard to make us appear “normal” on the outside when all heck is going on inside. We can’t know what his brain was telling him when he committed that terrible act but I don’t think it was simply telling him to commit suicide by taking a couple of innocent lives with him.

Thank you. This helps me to understand better.
 
How awful for him and his loved ones! It’s hard to imagine if you haven’t actually seen it happen, and I haven’t. But I know people (personally and online) who have schizophrenic family members, including a WS member who was well known on the Arias case and whose blog I follow. Her experience with her brother (in his 50’s) illustrates how hard it is to get treatment and keep him on his medication (paid social worker in his program dropping the ball). He is not the same lovely man when this happens.

It’s so easy to say about someone scornfully “he went off his meds” when in reality they (were) dropped through the cracks or did not have tenacious family advocating for them. I digress, since we don’t know NG’s mental health status, but it appears to me he was untreated if he was ill. Such a shame for anyone, but NG had a promising future. Now neither he nor Officer Evans have a future.
JMO

I have a family member who suffers from schizoaffective disorder and bipolar disorder. It took about three years for her to reach the point where I was certain something was wrong. You can’t force an adult to get treatment. When they agree to see a doctor but the doctor says it’s just panic attacks or the person becomes certain that the doctor and staff are in on this big conspiracy going on in their mind, getting treatment is a struggle. Once you finally get them on treatment it is a lifetime challenge balancing the medication cocktail to keep the voices under reasonable control. Watching a loved one go through this will shred your heart and soul. When I read that Green believed his teammates had drugged him and that he was still suffering the effects of it a gigantic red flag popped up for me.
 
Statement from the Family of USCP Officer Billy Evans
April 6, 2021
Press Release
Statement from the Family of USCP Officer Billy Evans

Billy was the best father, son, brother, and friend anyone could ever hope for. His death has left a gaping void in our lives that will never be filled.

The absolute most important thing in his life was his two children, Logan and Abigail. His most cherished moments were those spent with them -- building with Lego, having lightsaber duels, playing board games, doing arts and crafts, and recently finishing the Harry Potter series. He was always so eager to show how proud he was of everything they did. Any opportunity to spend time with his children brightened both their lives and his. Their dad was their hero long before the tragic events of last week.

While family was always first, Billy had the open, welcoming personality that led him to make friends with anyone he met. He relished bringing people together and making sure everyone felt included and had a good time. The countless testimonials that we have heard from people who knew him capture the warm, funny, and caring person we loved.

Billy was proud to be a United States Capitol Police Officer. His colleagues from the North Barricade were the people he spent so many hours with, and their friendship was one of the best parts of his job. We hold them in our hearts, as we know they acutely share our grief.

Our family is grateful for the immense level of support we have received from USCP in the darkest moment of our lives. The outpouring of support we have received from the law enforcement community from around the country and world both humbles us and serves as a testament to Billy’s sacrifice and dedication to the mission of which he was charged.


We appreciate the level of privacy we have received so far and ask for your continued respect during this difficult time.

Statement from the Family of USCP Officer Billy Evans
https://twitter.com/CapitolPolice/status/1379474857906348032/photo/2
 

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I haven't seen anything about Farrakhan or the Nation of Islam denouncing him. Usually if one of your followers does something so heinous the organization gives a press release denouncing the act.
 
Mr. Noah Green’s alleged use of an automobile as a weapon and the alleged possession of a knife as reported, violates our teachings. We absolutely disavow this act that resulted in the senseless loss of life. It is shocking for us to learn that someone who was attempting to be a part of our ranks may have been involved in something as tragic as this.

The Nation of Islam Official Statement On U.S. Capitol Assault
 
I haven't seen anything about Farrakhan or the Nation of Islam denouncing him. Usually if one of your followers does something so heinous the organization gives a press release denouncing the act.

They have released a statement denouncing the act. It is very long, but this is included in it:

"We absolutely disavow this act that resulted in the senseless loss of life. It is shocking for us to learn that someone who was attempting to be a part of our ranks may have been involved in something as tragic as this....

We condemn the wicked mischaracterization of some media reports trying to tie this tragic incident to the teachings of the Nation of Islam and the Honorable Minister Louis Farrakhan, and all people of good will should do the same as well."

The Nation of Islam Official Statement On U.S. Capitol Assault
 
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Statement from the Family of USCP Officer Billy Evans
April 6, 2021
Press Release
Statement from the Family of USCP Officer Billy Evans

Billy was the best father, son, brother, and friend anyone could ever hope for. His death has left a gaping void in our lives that will never be filled.

The absolute most important thing in his life was his two children, Logan and Abigail. His most cherished moments were those spent with them -- building with Lego, having lightsaber duels, playing board games, doing arts and crafts, and recently finishing the Harry Potter series. He was always so eager to show how proud he was of everything they did. Any opportunity to spend time with his children brightened both their lives and his. Their dad was their hero long before the tragic events of last week.

While family was always first, Billy had the open, welcoming personality that led him to make friends with anyone he met. He relished bringing people together and making sure everyone felt included and had a good time. The countless testimonials that we have heard from people who knew him capture the warm, funny, and caring person we loved.

Billy was proud to be a United States Capitol Police Officer. His colleagues from the North Barricade were the people he spent so many hours with, and their friendship was one of the best parts of his job. We hold them in our hearts, as we know they acutely share our grief.

Our family is grateful for the immense level of support we have received from USCP in the darkest moment of our lives. The outpouring of support we have received from the law enforcement community from around the country and world both humbles us and serves as a testament to Billy’s sacrifice and dedication to the mission of which he was charged.


We appreciate the level of privacy we have received so far and ask for your continued respect during this difficult time.

Statement from the Family of USCP Officer Billy Evans
https://twitter.com/CapitolPolice/status/1379474857906348032/photo/2
It is so heartbreaking to see the photos the young kids that now do not have their father.
 
Video of Green purchasing the knife hours before the attack do not appear to be someone having a break but rather someone planning an attack.
 

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