DC - Former President Donald Trump indicted, 4 federal counts in 2020 election interference, 1 Aug 2023, Trial 4 Mar 2024 #2

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Colorado Supreme Court justices face a flood of threats after disqualifying Trump from the ballot​

“We are seeing significant violent language and threats being made against the Colorado justices and others perceived to be behind yesterday’s Colorado Supreme Court ruling," Jones, a former FBI investigator and staffer for the Senate Intelligence Committee, told NBC News in a statement.

(Some pretty harrowing threats in this article)
 

Colorado Supreme Court justices face a flood of threats after disqualifying Trump from the ballot​

“We are seeing significant violent language and threats being made against the Colorado justices and others perceived to be behind yesterday’s Colorado Supreme Court ruling," Jones, a former FBI investigator and staffer for the Senate Intelligence Committee, told NBC News in a statement.

(Some pretty harrowing threats in this article)

WHY am I NOT surprised.... idiots...
 
Docket updates:

No 187

Doc 3 Date Filed Description
188 Dec 18, 2023 NOTICE of Service by USA as to DONALD J. TRUMP (Windom, Thomas) Main Document
Notice (Other)

Dec 18, 2023 USCA Case Number

189 Dec 18, 2023 RESPONSE by DONALD J. TRUMP re [188] Notice of Service (Attachments: # (1) Exhibit A)(Singer, Gregory) Modified text on 12/19/2023 (zstd). Main Document Response to document Attachment 1 Exhibit A


link: https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/67656604/united-states-v-trump/?page=2
 
Less than 24 hours after Donald Trump’s attorneys told the US Supreme Court to reject a fast-tracked consideration of his “presidential immunity” defence, special counsel Jack Smith urged the justices for an “immediate” review and a “definitive” decision.

A filing with the nation’s highest court on Thursday responds to the former president’s attempts to slow down the special counsel’s appeal that asks the justices for the final word on whether he can claim “immunity” from prosecution in a federal election conspiracy case.

“Respondent stands accused of serious crimes because the grand jury followed the facts and applied the law,” the filing added, in closing. “The government seeks this court’s resolution of the immunity claim so that those charges may be promptly resolved, whatever the result.”

 
The dam has officially broken following the Colorado Supreme Court’s decision to bar Donald Trump from appearing on the ballot in that state.

Lieutenant Governor Eleni Kounalakis sent a letter to the secretary of state urging her to make a similar determination in the days ahead; California’s deadline for certifying ballots for the upcoming 2024 primary is this coming week.

California official seeks to boot Trump from ballot after landmark Colorado ruling

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Because Trump appointed 3 of them?

There is talk that Thomas should recuse himself, due to his wife's "potential criminal exposure related to her involvement in the insurrection " - but they (law experts) are guessing that he won't.

Apparently the Supreme Court ethics code doesn't make recusal mandatory.

 
WASHINGTON (AP) — The Supreme Court says no, for now, to special counsel's plea for quick ruling on Trump's immunity from prosecution.


United States, Petitioner
v.
Donald J. Trump


Dec 22 2023Petition for a writ of certiorari before judgment DENIED.

 
Donald Trump shouldn't be allowed to make "irrelevant" claims targeting President Joe Biden or say others are to blame for the Jan. 6 Capitol riot during his federal election interference trial, special counsel Jack Smith wrote in a court filing Wednesday.

"Through public statements, filings and argument in hearings before the court, the defense has attempted to inject into this case partisan political attacks and irrelevant and prejudicial issues that have no place in a jury trial," the filing states.

"Although the court can recognize these efforts for what they are and disregard them, the jury -- if subjected to them -- may not," it continues. "The court should not permit the defendant to turn the courtroom into a forum in which he propagates irrelevant disinformation, and should reject his attempt to inject politics into this proceeding."

 
This goes with the article @SouthAussie just posted.

Docket update:

Doc # Date FIled Description
191 Dec 27, 2023 MOTION in Limine by USA as to DONALD J. TRUMP. (Gaston, Molly) (Entered: 12/27/2023) Main Document
Motion in Limine

link: https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/67656604/united-states-v-trump/?page=2


Here is what the Motion in Limine says in first paragraph:

Through public statements, filings, and argument in hearings before the Court, the defense has attempted to inject into this case partisan political attacks and irrelevant and prejudicial issues that have no place in a jury trial. Although the Court can recognize these efforts for what they are and disregard them, the jury—if subjected to them—may not. The Court should not permit the defendant to turn the courtroom into a forum in which he propagates irrelevant disinformation, and should reject his attempt to inject politics into this proceeding. To ensure that the jury remains focused on its fact-finding duty and applies the law as instructed by the Court, the defendant’s improper evidence and argument should be excluded.
 
Russian students are learning a controversial version of US history, as per a report in Newsweek. A new textbook claims Donald Trump lost the 2020 election due to widespread Democratic voter fraud-a claim repeatedly debunked by courts and election officials.

Sonin told Newsweek that he didn't doubt the authenticity of its contents and that the book's publication was announced earlier this year during a press conference by the book's authors and Sergei Kravstov, Russia's minister of education.

Under the "reverse cargo cult," the locals believe that the fact that their own elections are fake means that elections in democracies are fake as well.

 
Russian students are learning a controversial version of US history, as per a report in Newsweek. A new textbook claims Donald Trump lost the 2020 election due to widespread Democratic voter fraud-a claim repeatedly debunked by courts and election officials.

Sonin told Newsweek that he didn't doubt the authenticity of its contents and that the book's publication was announced earlier this year during a press conference by the book's authors and Sergei Kravstov, Russia's minister of education.

Under the "reverse cargo cult," the locals believe that the fact that their own elections are fake means that elections in democracies are fake as well.

Haven't we also been known to mess with our own version of history and don’t we still continue to try do so?
 
Maine Secretary of State rules Trump is ineligible to appear on 2024 ballot. 34-page decision: https://maine.gov/sos/news/2023/Decision%20in%20Challenge%20to%20Trump%20Presidential%20Primary%20Petitions.pdf

While other petitioners are citing the insurrection for the reason why trump is ineligible to be on their ballots, this (other) reason lodged by a petitioner is interesting ....

"In the second challenge .... because Mr Trump has expressly stated that he won the 2020 election, he is barred from office under the Twenty-Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, which sets a two-term limit on Presidents."

imo

(ETA: This aforementioned challenge was not part of the conclusion, which was based strictly on Section Three of the Fourteenth Amendment .. engaging in insurrection.)
 
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Maine's secretary of state explains why she barred Trump from primary ballot​


Maine is the only state where a challenge to a candidate's qualification is initially the responsibility of the secretary of state rather than a court.

"The U.S. Constitution does not tolerate an assault on the foundations of our government. And Maine election law required me to act in response," she said. "The events of January 6 were unprecedented and tragic. It was an assault not only on the Capitol and government officials, including the former vice president and members of Congress, but on the rule of law itself. … Mr. Trump engaged in that insurrection and thereby, is not qualified to be on the ballot."

"My obligation under Maine state law was to issue a decision very quickly. I'm not permitted under Maine law to wait for the United States Supreme Court to intervene in this particular proceeding."
 

Maine's secretary of state explains why she barred Trump from primary ballot​


Maine is the only state where a challenge to a candidate's qualification is initially the responsibility of the secretary of state rather than a court.

"The U.S. Constitution does not tolerate an assault on the foundations of our government. And Maine election law required me to act in response," she said. "The events of January 6 were unprecedented and tragic. It was an assault not only on the Capitol and government officials, including the former vice president and members of Congress, but on the rule of law itself. … Mr. Trump engaged in that insurrection and thereby, is not qualified to be on the ballot."

"My obligation under Maine state law was to issue a decision very quickly. I'm not permitted under Maine law to wait for the United States Supreme Court to intervene in this particular proceeding."
I don’t care how many ways the defense tries to distort the facts, there’s no way it’s legal in the US for a president to try to overthrow the government and still be allowed to run again.
 
The poster used the term, "prior President" and I responded. The fact remains--regardless of whether Trump is a "prior President" or currently a candidate for President or my next-door neighbor--all have the Constitutional right of protected political speech. The SCOTUS has made multiple rulings protecting political speech as the Motion today respectfully pointed out to the Judge.

Nobody is forced to listen to Trump. I didn't, nor did I vote for him.

JMO
There are laws against witness & jury tampering. There are laws against threatening anyone - threatening Officers of the Court is especially frowned upon, as is inciting violence against them. Defendants in criminal cases are often gagged from speaking about their cases so as not to influence juries/witnesses. trump is speaking to the press, his supporters & possible jurors with his truth social posts and he's addressing the entire nation with his press statements he gives on a regular basis as he walks in/out of a courtroom. The fact that he decided to run for President doesn't give him any special rights to discuss the case, threaten the prosecutors, judges & witnesses, or try to influence the jury pool. Why would anyone think a candidate for office is due special exemption from the laws that no one else would be entitled to? It's shocking to me that so many of his supporters think he should walk on his criminal activities simply because he's an ex President. That's one of the biggest issues that caused so much turmoil when he was in Office - he believed he was above the law. No one is above the law, and I wouldn't want to live in a Country with a President that was.
 

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