Deborah Bradley & Jeremy Irwin - Dr. Phil Interview - 3 February 2012 #2

[tehcloser]

Which garage door are they referring to? A large door that you pull your car through, or a smaller walk thru door?

IDK. :waitasec:

 

[matou]

Not sure which garage door Tacopina was referring to. He mentioned it as an overlooked access to getting in the house, IMO. It was in response to Dr. Phil's comment that the front door was open so why are they thinking the access was through the window.

 

[SyraKelly]

So are D/J and JT saying that there were 2 others ways to get in,garage door and front door,but the kidnapper choose to go through a window-I am confused!!

 

[matou]

DB showed the crew the window and said it was open so it would be easy to break in. She guided them through the house to show the kitchen and the bedrooms. She showed the counter with her phones, where the stolen phones were taken on the same night.

 

[askfornina]

OMG- my local channel has football on instead of Dr.Phil...grrr

 

[Donjeta]

Was there anything that was locked that night?

Poor Jersey, crawling through the cobwebs on the window when he could have just walked in through a door of his choosing.

 

[iamnotagolem]

I can't remember which thread I read it on about DB getting a tattoo with the words "Lisa" and "Justice" on it, but how does that even make sense with the Dr P interview? Didn't she say they believe Lisa is alive and they want Lisa, not the abductor? If you really believe your baby is alive and don't care if the abductor is punished, then why "justice" on the tattoo?

 

[In da Middle]

I don't understand the garage being brought into question now. Wasn't this addressed day one of the investigation? Didn't many of us wonder if someone could have come in from downstairs and up into the house? If that wasn't a valid option 4 months ago, why is the garage now being said to be unlocked?

This drives me nuts. The more they talk the less likely I feel that Lisa is alive, I really hoped that their silence was just poor advice from their attorney and that that Lisa really was abducted, but the more info we get, the less likely that seems. ugh

My question would be did LE even process the garage doors in the first few days. They are the professionals and should have treated each and every opening as a possible entry/exit point and processed them even if the parents mentioned them or not. No excuse if they didn't. I am not in any way saying they didn't. I don't know. Just saying that if they didn't, and the search warrant affidavit makes me wonder if they did, then that is on LE as a very major blunder in their investigation.

 

[RANCH]

I can't remember which thread I read it on about DB getting a tattoo with the words "Lisa" and "Justice" on it, but how does that even make sense with the Dr P interview? Didn't she say they believe Lisa is alive and they want Lisa, not the abductor? If you really believe your baby is alive and don't care if the abductor is punished, then why "justice" on the tattoo?

I haven't seen anything about a tattoo in MSM myself. Anyone?

 

[oh_gal]

Dr. Phil: do you have any questions for me?

DB: when the boys bring up Lisa, how do I handle it? What do I do to get them through this?

I could be mistaken, but hasn't this family been in counseling with the boys? I would think she would have asked her counselor this instead of waiting 4 months to ask Dr. Phil, but again, I could be mistaken about the whole counseling thing.

 

[askfornina]

http://www.phstream.com/2010/10/watch-cbs-live-stream.html livestreaming here

 

[In da Middle]

I can't remember which thread I read it on about DB getting a tattoo with the words "Lisa" and "Justice" on it, but how does that even make sense with the Dr P interview? Didn't she say they believe Lisa is alive and they want Lisa, not the abductor? If you really believe your baby is alive and don't care if the abductor is punished, then why "justice" on the tattoo?

The tattoo is not verified as fact. It is stated on the Hinkymeter that 'sources' said. It doesn't even mention who said it so no way of even verifying it. I did not notice a tattoo on her arm a couple of weeks ago when she was outside in a t-shirt, but I was not looking for one either. I *think* I would have noticed though.

 

[vlpate]

Sherbie, if you go to the old thread and click "edit" on your fabulous recap post, then right-click, "select all", then "copy", you can paste it in this new thread.

(I would move it but since it is a brand new thread, it will insert itself in time order and jump the OP. I would "quote" it and paste it here, but then others would not be able to quote it themselves to respond due to the format.)

Please add "spoiler alert"! It has just started CST!!

 

[vlpate]

drunk/drəNGk/
Adjective:
Affected by alcohol to the extent of losing control of one's faculties or behavior.

 

[askfornina]

"This is not a circus. This is not a game. This is my baby."

 

[Donjeta]

The search warrant said "possible points of entry" were processed initially. An unlocked garage door would seem to me like a possible point of entry. Wasn't there something about interviewing a teenager with the access code to the garage door, which would seem to indicate they considered it.

 

[dog.gone.cute]

So are D/J and JT saying that there were 2 others ways to get in,garage door and front door,but the kidnapper choose to go through a window-I am confused!!

Sorry you are confused, and I hope this helps : :innocent:

IF there was an "intruder" :

1. The "intruder" would have checked the FRONT DOOR, which DB and JI "claim" was NOT locked ... so the "intruder" could have EASILY went through the unlocked front door.

2. NOW we are hearing that the GARAGE DOOR was NOT locked ... so the "intruder" would have checked the Garage Door and could have EASILY went through the unlocked garage door.

DB and JI say the "intruder" went through the front window to take Baby Lisa :

So obviously the "intruder" didn't check for any "unlocked" entrances to be able to get into the home ... which would have been much EASIER than trying to get in through the front window ...

Which leads right back to "square one" : there was NO "intruder" and there was NO break-in ...

MOO ...

 

[RANCH]

The tattoo is not verified as fact. It is stated on the Hinkymeter that 'sources' said. It doesn't even mention who said it so no way of even verifying it. I did not notice a tattoo on her arm a couple of weeks ago when she was outside in a t-shirt, but I was not looking for one either. I *think* I would have noticed though.

Thanks IDM. Valhall said this about the "source".

There’s no way for me to verify any of that information, but seems appropriate to share what someone close to the situation is reporting…

So it's not verified information.

http://www.thehinkymeter.com/2012/01/27/lisa-irwin-case-debbie-and-jeremy-due-dr-phil/

 

[norest4thewicked]

Watching it now. I just heard yet another change to the story. She says now that both of the boys were in bed with her.

 

[norest4thewicked]

I think that we are one of the "giant rumor mills" that DB talks about.