So then how *do* pathologists and funeral home employees deal with it as it must be quite common in their everyday lives?
My DH is a cop and they put Vicks Vapor-Rub under their nose to mask the smell.
So then how *do* pathologists and funeral home employees deal with it as it must be quite common in their everyday lives?
My DH is a cop and they put Vicks Vapor-Rub under their nose to mask the smell.
I would almost bet they have every intention of allowing the jurors to smell the car. I would bet it smells as bad if not worse today than it did in the first days that it was confiscated.
Well, if the odor permeated the car's interior, then just keep it locked up in the heat until trial and let the jurors take a sniff for themselves. It will still be there.
I tend to agree. CA's reasoning (there was no odor) won't cut it.
My DH is a cop and they put Vicks Vapor-Rub under their nose to mask the smell.
Respectfully snipped and bolded by me:
After the body was removed from the closed-up car, the smell of decomp wouldn't just linger, it would grow stronger.
I distinctly remember hearing two forensics experts attest to this fact many weeks ago on Nancy Grace or Greta. Sorry I can't offer a link, but I am positive this is what was said.
Friday said:People, we're laboring under a huge false assumption here--one that is defeating our efforts to pin down the dates when Caylee's body could have been in the trunk...
Unlike other odors, the smell of human decomp in an enclosed area doesn't weaken after the body is removed, it grows stronger~
I distinctly remember hearing two forensics experts attest to this fact many weeks ago on Nancy Grace or Greta. Sorry I can't offer a link, but I am positive this is what was said.
I only read through the first 150 messages on this topic, so if this point has already been made, I apologize for the redundancy.
Friday, did they say why? I'm very curious about this, because it seems to me (I'm OH so finite!) that the odor would dissipate once the body was removed. I'd love to understand the science behind what the experts said.
Friday, did they say why? I'm very curious about this, because it seems to me (I'm OH so finite!) that the odor would dissipate once the body was removed. I'd love to understand the science behind what the experts said.
It is possible that the tow truck driver didn't smell it because it had been sitting outside and exposed to the air? I thought the car was locked, so he could not have gotten in to the car. Perhaps after it was sitting in the garage at tow yard for two weeks (inside of the garage) the smell accumulated.
Cindy tried to imply this and until the first document dump came out, everyone assumed that the car was left unlocked. It wasn't. It was locked.The car was locked? Where did I hear that Casey had left her purse sitting on the seat and the car was unlocked (i.e. the theory that she was tempting someone to steal the car)? Anyone remember where that info came from?
Cindy tried to imply this and until the first document dump came out, everyone assumed that the car was left unlocked. It wasn't. It was locked.
Secondly, the report isn't saying that the odour was such that they can tell how long the body might have been in the car, they're saying that the ratio of calcium to magnesium detected after the LIBS test indicated a post mortem intervel of 2.6 days - the body was in the car for 2.6 days before she disposed of it.
So what the report says is that the ratio of calcium to magnesium is a constant in measuring post mortem intervals. After 90 accumulated degree days (in Celsius) the ratio of calcium to magnesium is 5 : 1. The calcium concentrates as it leaches from the body at a steady, measurable ratio. In measuring the ratio of calcium to magnesium, the body was IN the car for 2. 6 days, which would mean that disposal would be around 1 pm to around 6 pm on the 18th of June. The report is assuming the means temp for those days was 33 celsius, but I have considered that the means for those days in question was lower than that, probably 27 to 30 celsius which might have slowed the leaching and I also believe that she was probably wrapped up in a towel or blanket which would have been semi - airtight, so the window for disposal may go as long as the 20th of June. (But that is just conjecture on my part.) The calcium : magnesium was such that the body was in the trunk from the first day of death until approximately 2.6 days after death and the concentration of calcium to magnesium proves that to be correct.
I keep trying to explain this in understandable terms and for some reason keep missing the mark. I'll try again -
So what the report says is that the ratio of calcium to magnesium is a constant in measuring post mortem intervals. After 90 accumulated degree days (in Celsius) the ratio of calcium to magnesium is 5 : 1. The calcium concentrates as it leaches from the body at a steady, measurable ratio. In measuring the ratio of calcium to magnesium, the body was IN the car for 2. 6 days, which would mean that disposal would be around 1 pm to around 6 pm on the 18th of June. The report is assuming the means temp for those days was 33 celsius, but I have considered that the means for those days in question was lower than that, probably 27 to 30 celsius which might have slowed the leaching and I also believe that she was probably wrapped up in a towel or blanket which would have been semi - airtight, so the window for disposal may go as long as the 20th of June. (But that is just conjecture on my part.) The calcium : magnesium was such that the body was in the trunk from the first day of death until approximately 2.6 days after death and the concentration of calcium to magnesium proves that to be correct.
LP does not have a clue as to what he is talking about. If it had been a bag tear on the 25th to the 27th, the ratio of calcium to magnesium would have reflected that.