Decomposed Body found in Scurry Co.*3/16/13* - LE identified as being Hailey

[Knox]

I watched the video and having really no background on the case (perhaps a fresh set of eyes?) I only see a heartbroken woman who had nothing to do with her daughter's disappearance. I don't know what else she has done as far as being a "bad parent" or naively believing in this man, but I am convinced she is telling the truth.

I also noticed that she never once referred to her daughter in the past tense.

Hoping for closure and justice for Hailey.

I appreciate your comments, thank you. We all want justice for Hailey, whatever form it takes.

Billie has had 27 months to practice getting her comments right. In the beginning she rarely called Hailey by name. It was "my daughter" or something else. Billie is many things, but naive is not one of them.

 

[For The Kids]

I watched the video and having really no background on the case (perhaps a fresh set of eyes?) I only see a heartbroken woman who had nothing to do with her daughter's disappearance. I don't know what else she has done as far as being a "bad parent" or naively believing in this man, but I am convinced she is telling the truth.

I also noticed that she never once referred to her daughter in the past tense.

Hoping for closure and justice for Hailey.

The only problem you say shes telling the truth but about what? since this case has began shes already been convicted of lieing and yes that involved Shawn Adkins. If someone is telling the truth there is no reason to change the story so many times

 

[For The Kids]

I appreciate your comments, thank you. We all want justice for Hailey, whatever form it takes.

Billie has had 27 months to practice getting her comments right. In the beginning she rarely called Hailey by name. It was "my daughter" or something else. Billie is many things, but naive is not one of them.

She has had 27 months and still gets it wrong

 

[belimom]

If charges are made and the you-know-what hits the fan for BD and SA, do you think they'll stick to their story or do you think one will turn on the other? If so, who will turn first?

 

[For The Kids]

If charges are made and the you-know-what hits the fan for BD and SA, do you think they'll stick to their story or do you think one will turn on the other? If so, who will turn first?

which version of her story? I think Shawn will turn first.

 

[sarx]

Generally speaking for those familiar with these type of things how long does it actually take to acurately identify a body if they have dental records and dna?

Not long.... It's far more of an issue of how long they want to wait until releasing it to the public and that happens for a whole lot of reasons.

Dentals are quicker than DNA.
And of course, how long it takes depends on what resources are being used to match them and where they have to be sent (that is generally the slowest part).

 

[fhc]

IMO, the age progressed photo, looks very similar to the tattoo Billie has of Hailey.

Any locals here who could tell us if there is cell service at Lake JB Thomas?

Hi Knox, in one of the earlier articles it stated that there was NO cell coverage in the area that the remains were found per LE.

not local but iirc that was the info

 

[sarx]

Hi Knox, in one of the earlier articles it stated that there was NO cell coverage in the area that the remains were found per LE.

not local but iirc that was the info

Correct. That came from trooper Dean.

 

[LisaB]

I thought someone denied that was true though?

I guess I missed that. I recall reading that they could not determine age or gender without more bones. The pelvis would help determine gender, of course, and while they can guestimate height based on the length of the femur, there is no way to be sure without knowing age and gender. It would also help to have additional long bones to calculate height from and see if they all fall into the same range.

So is it untrue that they can't do a dental ID because they lack enough teeth? That would be good news, right? And wouldn't the skull help determine age?

 

[wonderella]

An FBI spokesperson has confirmed that the remains have been sent to a Texas forensic
center:

http://www.reporternews.com/news/2013/mar/21/human-remains-found-near-snyder-have-been-sent-tex/

 

[LisaB]

Hi Knox, in one of the earlier articles it stated that there was NO cell coverage in the area that the remains were found per LE.

not local but iirc that was the info

When I moved into my house in June of 2010, I had to get a landline because our cell phones were useless inside the house. About 6 months later, that changed, and we NEVER have trouble getting a signal now. I assume that this is due to installation of additional towers, and that the same has occurred everywhere. It could be tricky to figure out what areas that CURRENTLY have coverage did NOT in December 2010.

 

[wonderella]

The following story mentions Hailey's father, Clint, and says that he is waiting to make a statement until after the remains are identified:

http://www.newswest9.com/story/2172...uman-remains-found-in-scurry-county-continues

 

[quietfire]

Snyder Daily News Today 3/21/13 "Lake Jb Thomas also fell going from .84 percent full to .83. The lake contains 1,673 acre feet of water. "

 

[Knox]

Hi Knox, in one of the earlier articles it stated that there was NO cell coverage in the area that the remains were found per LE.

not local but iirc that was the info

Thank you, good to see you posting my friend :seeya:

 

[carbuff]

I guess I missed that. I recall reading that they could not determine age or gender without more bones. The pelvis would help determine gender, of course, and while they can guestimate height based on the length of the femur, there is no way to be sure without knowing age and gender. It would also help to have additional long bones to calculate height from and see if they all fall into the same range.

So is it untrue that they can't do a dental ID because they lack enough teeth? That would be good news, right? And wouldn't the skull help determine age?

Nothing at all has been released officially, except that they have found remains. They were scattered, they weren't buried, and they didn't have anything to do with the lake.

A reporter earlier this week mentioned the skull, femur, and tooth, but there's no official source for that.

If it's Hailey, they'll be able to identify her from just a scrap of bone, enough to get DNA from. Sarah Pryor was identified from a few square inches of skull.

 

[matou]

Hmmm, if the teeth are intact in the skull that was found (hopefully there is a mandible as well) then dental records can be compared and matched to Hailey or not. The tooth found is either going to be associated either the skull or with another individual. I wonder if the skull was damaged and the tooth became dislodged? In other cases I've followed, if the teeth were present and dental records available, then a potential victim can be ID'd immediately.

 

[Knox]

HAILEY DUNN: Missing Colorado City teen's mom now questions ex-boyfriend's story about disappearance

http://www.ktxs.com/news/HAILEY-DUN...nce/-/14769632/19408954/-/b12h6y/-/index.html

Recap of what we already know Billie is saying about Shawn.
The comments are interesting though.
http://www.ktxs.com/news/HAILEY-DUN...nce/-/14769632/19408954/-/b12h6y/-/index.html

 

[matou]

Recap of what we already know Billie is saying about Shawn.
The comments are interesting though.
http://www.ktxs.com/news/HAILEY-DUN...nce/-/14769632/19408954/-/b12h6y/-/index.html

Now, Billie Dunn isn’t so sure.

"I think it's a possibility, a good possibility (Adkins was involved), after seeing the way he reacted when we broke up – and (when) I think back to what local law enforcement had told me and been trying to tell me. I just thought it wasn't true,” Billie Dunn told KTXS in an exclusive interview Wednesday.

WTF???? She's only suspicious now that bones are found and thinking back to how he acted when she broke up with him??? WHEN did they break up? Recently? Oh I see she stated that they broke up "a while ago."

I see that BJD has jewelled up her face quite a bit and changed her look. Sorry, but I had to. JMO

http://www.ktxs.com/news/HAILEY-DUN...nce/-/14769632/19408954/-/b12h6y/-/index.html

 

[SmoothOperator]

Hailey Dunn has not for one day left my heart and mind since the day that I personally learned of her disappearance, December 30, 2010(3days after she "disappeared")..Hailey Darlene Dunn is the missing person who is nearest and dearest to my heart and always has been from the very beginning..and no, I have never met Hailey, nor anyone even related to Hailey, nor do I live anywhere in or around Texas..

Yes, I have Hailey's details of her disappearance and the case as it developed saved to my laptop and not merely bookmarked, but rather downloaded in full..but honestly this is the one case that the details and the way in which it unfolded and developed are as clear in my mind as they were 2 years ago.. they have been burned in my memory, just as Hailey's beautiful, cherubic, sweet face of INNOCENCE is burned in my heart..

I do not know exactly "why" Hailey has touched me in the way that no other has, and there are 2-3 other cases that I've been vested in closely following, but none have touched me in the way that Hailey has.. What I do know for certain is that I am not alone in experiencing this natural draw into Hailey, the organic way in which she has very literally become a very real part of me by having a place in my heart.. there are several, maybe even many of us who have this very real place in our hearts that Hailey has occupied.. I do not have an answer for exactly "why" any further than the recognition of Hailey being truly an INNOCENT wrt the very dark and ugly that surrounded her in her daily home life specifically in speaking of Billie and Shawn.. I have recognized that from the beginning..

I know that there are many who believe that her father wasn't a bit better than that of her mother and Shawn, but IMO I am adamantly opposing that to be the case.. IMO no, Clint is no angel, or even close(nor are a single one of us), but what Clint Dunn IMO is, is STARKLY CONTRASTING from the dark and ugly that is present in Billie and Shawn..present in them even before Hailey's death.. and tho, I fully believe that Hailey was let down in many ways, I do however believe that there is absolute, genuine sorrow and guilt felt by Clint whereas in Billie this is void even tho, IMO she is a direct cause for Hailey's no longer being here.. I have no desire to judge Clint Dunn, instead I recognize the good heart in Clint and have compassion for him in having Hailey stripped from him in the most cruel and evil way humanly possible..

I am of the very firm belief that our Hailey has been gone from this earth since before I ever even knew this cherubic angel even existed when learning of her disappearance. IMO Hailey was not alive by dawn of that Monday morning, December 27, 2010.. and its because of my firm believe in this that I am praying that this body, tho not even near intact, I pray this is our Hailey and that those who love her will atleast have the peace and solace of knowing..

Thank you Truthwillsetyoufree for your beautiful post this morning about that "ugly, dirty field" that these remains have been found.. Your perfect description of this beautiful area brought tears to my eyes, but not tears of sorrow, but rather tears of relief, and a true sense of peace that even as hard as they tried to discard Hailey's earthly body in the most desolate, empty, lonely, ugly, dirtiest of places imaginable in hopes of keeping their ugly secret hidden where no one would want or care to look..and yet to know the most wonderful and purest of God's natural beauty exists in this place brings peace to my heart in knowing that our Hailey could have been there all of this time.. Thank you for taking the time to share that beautiful truth with us, and that whoever it is thats earthly body was hidden in this place was actually laying beneath one of God's most beautiful scenes he's created anywhere on this entire earth..:heartbeat:

 

[For The Kids]

Hailey Dunn has not for one day left my heart and mind since the day that I personally learned of her disappearance, December 30, 2010(3days after she "disappeared")..Hailey Darlene Dunn is the missing person who is nearest and dearest to my heart and always has been from the very beginning..and no, I have never met Hailey, nor anyone even related to Hailey, nor do I live anywhere in or around Texas..

Yes, I have Hailey's details of her disappearance and the case as it developed saved to my laptop and not merely bookmarked, but rather downloaded in full..but honestly this is the one case that the details and the way in which it unfolded and developed are as clear in my mind as they were 2 years ago.. they have been burned in my memory, just as Hailey's beautiful, cherubic, sweet face of INNOCENCE is burned in my heart..

I do not know exactly "why" Hailey has touched me in the way that no other has, and there are 2-3 other cases that I've been vested in closely following, but none have touched me in the way that Hailey has.. What I do know for certain is that I am not alone in experiencing this natural draw into Hailey, the organic way in which she has very literally become a very real part of me by having a place in my heart.. there are several, maybe even many of us who have this very real place in our hearts that Hailey has occupied.. I do not have an answer for exactly "why" any further than the recognition of Hailey being truly an INNOCENT wrt the very dark and ugly that surrounded her in her daily home life specifically in speaking of Billie and Shawn.. I have recognized that from the beginning..

I know that there are many who believe that her father wasn't a bit better than that of her mother and Shawn, but IMO I am adamantly opposing that to be the case.. IMO no, Clint is no angel, or even close(nor are a single one of us), but what Clint Dunn IMO is, is STARKLY CONTRASTING from the dark and ugly that is present in Billie and Shawn..present in them even before Hailey's death.. and tho, I fully believe that Hailey was let down in many ways, I do however believe that there is absolute, genuine sorrow and guilt felt by Clint whereas in Billie this is void even tho, IMO she is a direct cause for Hailey's no longer being here.. I have no desire to judge Clint Dunn, instead I recognize the good heart in Clint and have compassion for him in having Hailey stripped from him in the most cruel and evil way humanly possible..

I am of the very firm belief that our Hailey has been gone from this earth since before I ever even knew this cherubic angel even existed when learning of her disappearance. IMO Hailey was not alive by dawn of that Monday morning, December 27, 2010.. and its because of my firm believe in this that I am praying that this body, tho not even near intact, I pray this is our Hailey and that those who love her will atleast have the peace and solace of knowing..

Thank you Truthwillsetyoufree for your beautiful post this morning about that "ugly, dirty field" that these remains have been found.. Your perfect description of this beautiful area brought tears to my eyes, but not tears of sorrow, but rather tears of relief, and a true sense of peace that even as hard as they tried to discard Hailey's earthly body in the most desolate, empty, lonely, ugly, dirtiest of places imaginable in hopes of keeping their ugly secret hidden where no one would want or care to look..and yet to know the most wonderful and purest of God's natural beauty exists in this place brings peace to my heart in knowing that our Hailey could have been there all of this time.. Thank you for taking the time to share that beautiful truth with us, and that whoever it is thats earthly body was hidden in this place was actually laying beneath one of God's most beautiful scenes he's created anywhere on this entire earth..:heartbeat:

Probably one of the best posts I have ever seen anywhere to do with this case. Your words were truly beautiful.